Republican National Convention Commentary Thread

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2004-08-30 09:03pm

Ok, it started. Now one of the things that stuck out was the Purple Heart bandaids. Some delegates are wearing Bandaids with Purple Hearts on them to signify what they think of Kerry's Purplr Hearts. The Bush campaign says they have no idea about this.

Also CNN had a interview of Bush Senior who lamented how his son was being villified and assaulted by MoveOn.org and was personally offended by any jokes about his son's service in the guard.

Incidentally, NYC is a ghost town. You don't see anyone in the streets. Reminds me of what it was like on 9/11. It's fucking creepy.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-08-30 09:44pm

Good news, the former Miss America will be talking tomarrow.

Bad news, she's the virgin chick who won't caugh it up, and she's way into the 'faith based inititives' and shit.

Good news, my TV has a mute button.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2004-08-30 09:52pm

Pure drek. It's even worse than the DNC.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2004-08-30 09:55pm

Is anybody keeping a running tally of how many times the Republicans say "9/11"?

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-08-30 09:59pm

Iceberg wrote:Is anybody keeping a running tally of how many times the Republicans say "9/11"?

As pathetic as their use of September 11th is, those who count its uterence will compete for being more pathetic.

Jadeite · Post by **Jadeite** » 2004-08-30 10:01pm

Someone needs to make a drinking game for this.

Marksist · Post by **Marksist** » 2004-08-30 10:06pm

The big thing that pisses me off about the RNC is that the Republicans are parading out all their well-known moderates for the prime time spots like; Guiliani, Schwarzenegger, and McCain. What makes me angry about this is that they are not representative of the current Bush administration. These people are all pro-choice, they aren't anti-gay, and they all don't wear their religion on their sleeves. These people are opposites of Bush as they are all social moderate types.

I mean, I completely understand why they are doing this: to hopefully get some of those "swing voters." But, it seems like a big facade, and is not indicative of Bush's policies and actions for the past four years.[/quote]

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2004-08-30 10:07pm

McCain is all about 9/11. Fuck me man if this is just a taste of what we're getting then I will be the first to say I was wrong. The vulturing will not be as subtle as I suspected.

Edit: Anyone notice the Republican spin that Iraq is a natural extension of 9/11? McCain's speech just stated that we didn't ask for this war we tried to avoid it and look what happened? Wait....what happened John? You mean 20 Iraqi's hijacked planes and crashed them into the towers? Wait a minute....

I am quickly growing disgusted by what I have seen in men I respected in the party, Dole, McCain, Giuliani.

Final Edit: McCain "We're not safe yet." Of COURSE not John. That would deprive your president of something to run on.

Oh, and pandering to the troops while benefits are being cut. Is there no end to this cavalcade of SHIT??

I am horrified by what's unfolding here.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-08-30 10:23pm

I'm betting that the party has McCain on a tight leash this election season. Bush's administration has an uncanny talent for taking otherwise respectable people and twisting them into puppets.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2004-08-30 10:37pm

Subtle? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! We have 911 widows standing in front of a black background with "September 11, 2001" in ten foot letters talking about how bravely their husbands died (one was a firefighter and another was one of the Flight 97 passengers).

Who wants to bet there's at least one nationally syndicated political cartoon with an elephant dancing on a gravestone marked "911 Victims" tomorrow?

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2004-08-30 10:37pm

Durandal wrote:I'm betting that the party has McCain on a tight leash this election season. Bush's administration has an uncanny talent for taking otherwise respectable people and twisting them into puppets.

Actually that seems to be pretty standard for the Republican party of late.

I would have voted for Dole back when he ran for President but as soon as he got the nomination his platform got shanghaied towards right-wing fundyville. Not that Dole wasn't leaning more that way than Clinton but the party platfrom (leash) pulled him further that way because of the Bible thumping crowd. I think if he would have just been himself that he would have had a better shot of being elected.

AOL is running an article that starts with this:

Dubbed the "most popular national political figure," John McCain has been wooed by both sides. How will the Arizona senator influence the race?

I wonder how popular he's going to be after kowtowing so much for the party? I also can't help feeling that getting McCain to do this stuff at the convention is another instance of the Bush administration being vindictive towards McCain for an number of things that are related to him that get under the administration's skin.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-08-30 10:44pm

He's been extremely influential already, haven't you heard Bush pimping campaign finance reform and banning 527s? All McCain ideas.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2004-08-30 10:48pm

Seeing Rudy vulturing 9/11 makes me want to cry.

Another mantra is slowly emerging, "We're not safe yet." He has also included this in his speech as well as McCain's.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2004-08-30 10:49pm

Joe wrote:He's been extremely influential already, haven't you heard Bush pimping campaign finance reform and banning 527s? All McCain ideas.

Exactly, and it pisses Bush & Co. off.

or it could be an example of McCain and Bush working together.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2004-08-30 11:15pm

OMG....Rudy just said this: "Sadaam Hussein was himself a weapon of mass destruction."

This is turning into 9/11 a retrospective. How fucking sad yet predictable.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-08-30 11:51pm

I personally found his rehashing of the load of imperialist nonsense that is "the Bush Doctrine" more offensive.

Spice Runner · Post by **Spice Runner** » 2004-08-31 12:15am

I wonder what Schwarzenegger will say tommorow night. Damn I hope his speech doesn't parrot these guys.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-08-31 12:20am

Spice Runner wrote:I wonder what Schwarzenegger will say tommorow night. Damn I hope his speech doesn't parrot these guys.

He'll say dis and dat and dings of dat nature, probably.

Aeolus · Post by **Aeolus** » 2004-08-31 01:00am

Iceberg wrote:Is anybody keeping a running tally of how many times the Republicans say "9/11"?

We could pool our resources and by one of those clickers....but who would sit around and get carpal tunnel trying to keep up.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-08-31 01:09am

Spice Runner wrote:I wonder what Schwarzenegger will say tommorow night. Damn I hope his speech doesn't parrot these guys.

He'll say what they tell him to say. Probably something along the lines of Bush being "the Terminator" ... of terrorists! He'll naturally have to keep his mouth shut on the issues of gay marriage and abortion. Since those are really the only social issues Dubya has anything to say on, I'm guessing Ahnuld's speech will be restricted to the standard War on Terror bullshit.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-08-31 01:14am

All of this shameless opportunism and vulturing will be viewed as brilliant by the 50% of the population whose IQ is below 100, and that's enough to win the election.

Think about it, folks; 50% of the population has an IQ below 100 and 50% of it has an IQ above 100. It's difficult to woo the high-IQ voters; they expect reasoned arguments and facts, from both sides. It requires work. But the low-IQ voters? They're easy, and the RNC has apparently decided to woo that half, for good reason: they're more prone to crass appeals to tradition, flag-waving, etc.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2004-08-31 01:15am

Durandal wrote:He'll say what they tell him to say. Probably something along the lines of Bush being "the Terminator" ... of terrorists! He'll naturally have to keep his mouth shut on the issues of gay marriage and abortion. Since those are really the only social issues Dubya has anything to say on, I'm guessing Ahnuld's speech will be restricted to the standard War on Terror bullshit.

I don't know... so far, Arnold's been known to say things that... aren't exactly on the script.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-08-31 01:18am

Arnold will accuse Kerry of being a girlie-man, and he'll get huge applause out of it.

Stravo wrote:Now one of the things that stuck out was the Purple Heart bandaids. Some delegates are wearing Bandaids with Purple Hearts on them to signify what they think of Kerry's Purplr Hearts. The Bush campaign says they have no idea about this.

The Bush Administration has been characterized by dishonest behaviours cloaked in "plausible deniability".

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-08-31 01:30am

Crayz9000 wrote:
Durandal wrote:He'll say what they tell him to say. Probably something along the lines of Bush being "the Terminator" ... of terrorists! He'll naturally have to keep his mouth shut on the issues of gay marriage and abortion. Since those are really the only social issues Dubya has anything to say on, I'm guessing Ahnuld's speech will be restricted to the standard War on Terror bullshit.
I don't know... so far, Arnold's been known to say things that... aren't exactly on the script.

This isn't posturing in California. It's the Republican National Convention. If he fucks up by not sticking to the script they give him, they'll burn him alive. Eating their own young is not something below the GOP. Remember Trent Lott?

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-08-31 01:31am

Darth Wong wrote:Arnold will accuse Kerry of being a girlie-man, and he'll get huge applause out of it.

I'd love to see that. I'd also love to see Kerry then ask Arnold how much actual combat he's seen.