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MOSCOW (Reuters) - Eight people were killed and at least 20 injured by a female suicide bomber in a central Moscow car park on Tuesday evening, Russian news agencies reported.

Local television footage showed a blazing car parked between a large shopping center and the entrance to a metro station, with several bodies lying on the pavement.

Tass said a number of children were among the injured.
BAGHDAD, Iraq (Reuters) - A militant Iraqi group said it had killed 12 Nepali hostages and showed pictures of one being beheaded and others being gunned down in the worst violence against captives since a wave of kidnappings erupted in April.

The announcement of the killings, made in a statement posted on an Islamist Web site Tuesday, came as France intensified its efforts to save two French reporters held hostage in Iraq by a separate militant Islamic group.

The Nepalis were kidnapped earlier this month when they entered Iraq to work as cooks and cleaners for a Jordanian firm. The killing of men from a tiny country that had nothing to do with the invasion or occupation of Iraq will send shockwaves through foreign companies doing business here.

“We have carried out the sentence of God against 12 Nepalis who came from their country to fight the Muslims and to serve the Jews and the Christians ... believing in Buddha as their God,” said the statement by the military committee of the Army of Ansar al-Sunna.

The group posted a series of photographs showing the killing as well as a video.

The recording showed two masked men, one in camouflage, holding down a hostage. One of the men then used a knife to behead the hostage and then hold his head aloft.

The video then showed a group of hostages lying face down and being shot by a man using an automatic rifle. It then showed bodies splattered with blood and bullet wounds.
Two suicide bombers exploded almost simultaneously on two buses in central Be’er Sheva on Tuesday, Southern Command Police commander Dudi Cohen said.

The explosions took place on buses numbers 12 and 63, traveling opposite the municipality building on Yitzhak Riger Street at 2:55 p.m.

Magen David Adom said 12 people were killed in the attacks, all of whom died at the scene. 100 people were wounded and taken to Soroka Hospital not far from the site of the attack. Seven are listed as critical; 12 are listed as serious, and the rest of the wounded are listed in light-to moderate condition. One of those fighting for his life in Soroka’s operating theatre is a three-year-old child, Channel 1 TV reported.

ZAKA (disaster victims association) reported all the fatalities were on the buses. Hamas in Bethlehem issued a statement claiming responsibility for the attacks in the name of their Hebron Brigade, saying it was in response to the assassination of Sheikh Ahmed Yassin.
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But Islam is peaceful, and those suicidal lunatics in no way represent us...
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Bodies of victims of an explosion are seen outside the Rizhskaya subway station in Moscow, Tuesday, Aug. 31, 2004. A car blew up outside a busy subway station in Moscow Tuesday and news reports said eight people were killed and 18 injured. (AP Photo/Dmitry Shalganov)

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“We have carried out the sentence of God against 12 Nepalis who came from their country to fight the Muslims and to serve the Jews and the Christians ... believing in Buddha as their God,” said the statement by the military committee of the Army of Ansar al-Sunna.

How the hell were they fighting Muslims if they were mostly service workers?
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jmac wrote:But Islam is peaceful, and those suicidal lunatics in no way represent us...
I hope to God that you're not serious with that comment.
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BTW that Israeli city where the two mohammedians went BOOM is also the only city which is not separated from the territries by the fence.
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The two buses were apparently full of mothers and kids doing last minute shopping before starting school tomorrow.
Dear god....... :shock:
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If Islam is peaceful and lunatics like that don't represent you, then why don't we see the same in other religions? Clearly it has something to do with Islam being the way it is.
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The two buses were apparently full of mothers and kids doing last minute shopping before starting school tomorrow.
Dear god....... :shock:
You know, as much as I despise the actions of the terrorists there's something disingenious about a poster describing himself as horrified by the carnage when self same poster has advocated nucelar strikes against civilian targets in muslim countries and casaully describe the heat flashes making medical care more difficult by killing rescue workers on the way to the wounded or making millions die of thirst by striking at desalinazation plants.

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Less to do with Islam and more to do with the people

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Stravo wrote:You know, as much as I despise the actions of the terrorists there's something disingenious about a poster describing himself as horrified by the carnage when self same poster has advocated nucelar strikes against civilian targets in muslim countries and casaully describe the heat flashes making medical care more difficult by killing rescue workers on the way to the wounded or making millions die of thirst by striking at desalinazation plants.

Just an observation.
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Jesus fucking christ... More proof god either A) DOes not exist or B) Is a sick fuck.

These islamofascist assholes dont deserve the oxygen they breath, I am starting to think that we would be justified in torturing them for information... morally, if not legally.
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Putting an odd perspective on things is seeing my old "home town" (Beer-Sheva) hosting a suicide bombing on CNN and making me worry about my friends. So I'm going to call Israel tomorrow, from Iraq, to see if my friends are safe.

I already heard from one, Cigal, a newlywed going to medical school there. The bus pictured on the explosion was a bus also used by a lot of students to get downtown, and she is on that bus a lot (as I was just a few years ago). She's going by taxi now since you can get anywhere in Beer-Sheva for about $3.00.

I'm still waiting to hear from any others that might be there. Beer-Sheva is usually an oasis of stabiliity, terrorist attacks there are very very rare. This is a new thing for Hamas, and I think it will backfire on them.

I try not to hate but these people make it so fucking hard sometimes.
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Stravo wrote:You know, as much as I despise the actions of the terrorists there's something disingenious about a poster describing himself as horrified by the carnage when self same poster has advocated nucelar strikes against civilian targets in muslim countries and casaully describe the heat flashes making medical care more difficult by killing rescue workers on the way to the wounded or making millions die of thirst by striking at desalinazation plants.

Just an observation.
And well borne out by this:

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There are Christians in the far right who bomb research clinics and abortion clinics and think it's the will of God. Just like every conservitive isnt responsible for what a far right psycho who bombs an abortion clinic does, every muslim isnt responsible for what a few nutjobs do.

People who are nuts will do what they will reguardless of what religion they are. It's called beinga psychpath, it has nothing to do with Islam in particular or religion in general, more than it has to do with various fucked up brain systems.
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MKSheppard wrote:
Stravo wrote:You know, as much as I despise the actions of the terrorists there's something disingenious about a poster describing himself as horrified by the carnage when self same poster has advocated nucelar strikes against civilian targets in muslim countries and casaully describe the heat flashes making medical care more difficult by killing rescue workers on the way to the wounded or making millions die of thirst by striking at desalinazation plants.

Just an observation.
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In Gaza, Muslim leaders praised the "heroic operation" over mosque loudspeakers.
Looks like you totally missed his point about two sides of the same coin, Shep.
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Darth Wong wrote: American Right-Wing Extremism is a Religion of Peace too!
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Darth Wong wrote:
Stravo wrote:You know, as much as I despise the actions of the terrorists there's something disingenious about a poster describing himself as horrified by the carnage when self same poster has advocated nucelar strikes against civilian targets in muslim countries and casaully describe the heat flashes making medical care more difficult by killing rescue workers on the way to the wounded or making millions die of thirst by striking at desalinazation plants.

Just an observation.
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You'll notice the difference is that such actions are condemmed by the rest of the Christian community, while the vast majority of muslims are not in protest of the indiscriminate violence.
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Darth Wong wrote:Looks like you totally missed his point about two sides of the same coin, Shep.
Thing is, both the US and Israel been very kind, taking extreme pains to limit civilian casualties in our fights against
the Islamofascists, even to the point of putting their personnel at risk.

Meanwhile, Hamas, et al has tried to use HIV-infected waste as a primitve biological weapon in a suicide bombing....
good thing for the Israelis that the heat of the explosion sterilized the HIV.

On the other hand, in Mother Russia, the majority of Chechen rebel
groups have a tactit understanding with the Russians that they will
only attack military targets, and not civilian targets. I wonder why...

There's a lot we could learn from the Russians in terms of dealing with
Islamic terrorism. Especially the solution to kidnappings. :twisted:
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StormTrooperTR889 wrote:You'll notice the difference is that such actions are condemmed by the rest of the Christian community, while the vast majority of muslims are not in protest of the indiscriminate violence.
The Christian community has the luxury of having all the power and money. People in desperate, miserable situations tend to be less humane.
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Darth Wong wrote:The Christian community has the luxury of having all the power and money. People in desperate, miserable situations tend to be less humane.
Ah yes, despite the Islamic states sitting on the biggest oil fields in the
history of man and raking cash in like tomorrow, they're still feudalist
backwards shitholes.
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StormTrooperTR889 wrote:
You'll notice the difference is that such actions are condemmed by the rest of the Christian community, while the vast majority of muslims are not in protest of the indiscriminate violence.
Kind of hard not to feel some sympathy for these terrorist groups when you have them attacking a decidedly unsympathetic Israel and their main ally is a country that came in, bombed a nation into submission on a contrived charge that once proven false has been conveninelty ignored, toppled a government that at least had a standard of living for its people and replaced it with a puppet government that still has feudal warlords fighting in cities and killing more Iraqi civilians daily.

Iraq went from a totalatrain regime that was stable to a mangled mess of tiny principlalities all struggling for power and reawakened the desire to have an Islamic fundamentalist government. So we got rid of a reasonably stable secular government to be replaced by a nation that cannot govern itself, has become a magnet for foreign fighters and mullahs that can command militias that even the US will turn a blind eye to - anyone can explian to me why Iraq the nation can be swarmed and defeated in less than a weak but Najaf has been as far as I can tell surrounded for months and the militas allowed to run rampant?


We lied about our reasons for war, ignored the evidence to the contrary about WMD's then casually say we have liberated a counrty only to see standards of living plunge.

You tell me why we should be looked on with ANY sympathy by your average Arab?
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What about Muslims around the world who have not been affected by the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Why do they tolerate this crap? Why do they not stand up to imams and mullahs and radical preachers and say enough.
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Spice Runner wrote:What about Muslims around the world who have not been affected by the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Why do they tolerate this crap? Why do they not stand up to imams and mullahs and radical preachers and say enough.
Is your average Christian coming out against the fundie preachers advocating abolishing the seperation of church and state and bombings of Abortion clinics? And what exactly do we expect them to do? Are we giving them a hat to hang on as an alternative?

"Be more like the US."

"Oh you mean you want us to contrive a reason for our attacks then promptly ignore it?"

Early on in this war on terror I advocated in a thread that what we needed was a Marshall Plan for the Middle East. The EU, Ourselves and Japan could have created a superfund and built high ways, wells, hospitals, infrastructure and defeated the terrorirst by forcing them to fight against the betterment of the people. Instead we have given them precisely what they want - infidel invaders telling Arabs that they have to be like us at gun point.
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