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Ha! New 527 to hit Kerry

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http://moveonforamerica.org/

The first ad will expose John Kerry’s role in securing freedom and parole for would-be cop killer who escaped a Massachusetts prison during a furlough, just like Willie Horton!!!

MoveOnForAmerica.org was created due to the Bush campaign’s largely timid ads against Mr. Kerry, and will air this first ad starting Tuesday Sept. 7th in the Washington D.C. market and in key swing states beginning Monday September 13th. Since the organization is a “non-connected” committee, the ads will run non-stop until Election Day, and are not subject to the McCain-Feingold ban during the campaign’s final 60 days.

The first ad CLICK HERE TO VIEW (or "right click, then "save target as") will feature John Kerry’s role as a private attorney in 1982, when he secured freedom and parole for his client George Reissfelder who pled guilty to attempted murder of a police officer, bur never served his 15-year sentence because Kerry successfully secured his parole. The parole was in Florida because Mr. Kerry’s client had escaped during a furlough, just like Willie Horton. Once a free man, thanks to John Kerry, Kerry’s would-be cop killer client brazenly continued his life of crime as part of a Mafia-controlled drug ring.

The second ad, which will be aired at a later date CLICK HERE TO VIEW (or "right click, then "save target as") will feature the political alliance John Kerry has forged with Al Sharpton, focusing on Mr. Sharpton’s history, which was rarely mentioned during his 2004 run for president. Instead of the charismatic and witty Sharpton seen during his presidential bid, Americans will be educated about the real Al Sharpton, who recently blamed America for the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the Sharpton who called Adolph Hitler “a great man”; the Sharpton who urged college students to kill police officers; and the Sharpton leading the picketing of a white-owned store in Harlem [calling the Jewish owner a ‘white interloper”], resulting in the store being burned down by one of Sharpton’s followers, killing seven people. The ad will include footage of Sharpton in his own words, and Mr. Kerry’s hinting of Shartpon becoming part of a Kerry administration.

Later ads will feature John Kerry’s raising political funds from known leaders of the Cali drug cartel, as well as other unethical [and possibly criminal] behavior by Kerry regarding his finances when he was dead broke between his two marriages.

MoveOnForAmerica.Org is a group of citizens created by its president, DC-based GOP political consultant Stephen Marks

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What the fuck is wrong with the Dems? Why don't they have some 527s SLAM Bush on his coke, his drinking, his ridiculous intrusive and extreme religious beliefs, his failures in his previous jobs, his military record?

Then mine the last four years for EVERY SINGLE STUPID OR QUESTIONABLE THING he has ever said. Does not matter if some jack on FNC can say, well Kerry's a hypocrite--blah blah blah--fuck it. Slam him and dominate, keep the discourse low and the Repubs on the defensive. Bush has made an ass of himself and hurt this country. USE IT.
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Illuminatus Primus wrote:What the fuck is wrong with the Dems? Why don't they have some 527s SLAM Bush on his coke, his drinking, his ridiculous intrusive and extreme religious beliefs, his failures in his previous jobs, his military record?
What do you call $60 million of ads by 527s against Bush in this Campaign
cycle then? They've pretty much said that.
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If I recall correctly, most ads against Bush really aren't that hard. They all talk about the job losses, the economy, the deficeit, etc...nothing really dirty. However, the other side has been on boarderline dirty/pure mud. If Kerry or Kerry supporters want to hit hard, they need to show Bush for all his brilliant stupidity that he is/can be.
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Now that is some quality mud-slinging.

The Democrat campaign, if we can call it that, reminds of the Liberals in Canada earlier this year. They had so much stuff to work with yet they come up with nothing. A retarded monkey could come up with a better campaign than Kerry's advisors.
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MKSheppard wrote: The first ad will expose John Kerry’s role in securing freedom and parole for would-be cop killer who escaped a Massachusetts prison during a furlough, just like Willie Horton!!!

The first ad will feature John Kerry’s role as a private attorney in 1982, when he secured freedom and parole for his client George Reissfelder who pled guilty to attempted murder of a police officer, bur never served his 15-year sentence because Kerry successfully secured his parole. The parole was in Florida because Mr. Kerry’s client had escaped during a furlough, just like Willie Horton. Once a free man, thanks to John Kerry, Kerry’s would-be cop killer client brazenly continued his life of crime as part of a Mafia-controlled drug ring.
This is, of course, a defense attorneys job. Just because the prosecution was too incompetent to keep this man in prison is no reason to bitch at Kerry.

In fact, I believe this proves he would make a great leader. I mean, if he can secure parole for someone who pled guilty to attempted murder and jumped bail, imagine how effective he would be at international
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If only Kerry could have been a fine upstanding useless drunk at the time.
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What a surprise. More bullshit from the Right. I think I'm developing an instinctive reaction to go to Google whenever some pro-Bush group says something about Kerry.
The Guardian wrote:Kerry spent the next two years in private practice, specializing mostly in medical malpractice and wrongful death litigation. He and his partner won a new trial and, eventually, freedom for George Reissfelder, who spent 15 years in prison after being wrongly convicted of murder.
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The Boston Phoenix wrote:George Reissfelder — sentenced in 1967 for murder in Suffolk County, under DA Garrett Byrne; released in 1982 when lawyers (including then–defense attorney John Kerry) brought 10 witnesses to affirm Reissfelder’s innocence, and a co-defendant confessed Reissfelder was not his accomplice.
The claim that George Reissfelder never served a sentence is an absolute fucking bald-faced lie. The tacid implication that John Kerry got him off for attempted murder of a cop is also a bald-faced lie.
The Boston Globe wrote:He served seven years of a life term in Walpole state prison before he was granted a one-day furlough, and then failed to return to the prison. Three years later, a Florida police officer was trying to arrest him for writing a bad check when Reissfelder pulled a gun and it went off.

No one was injured, but Reissfelder pleaded guilty to a charge of attempted murder because he was already facing a life term in Massachusetts and he had been told the sentences would run concurrently, according to Kerry.
In other words, Kerry committed the atrocious crime of freeing a wrongfully convicted man from prison and then getting him off of attempted murder charges (filed for incidents in which no one was actually harmed) he only pled guilty to so that he wouldn't be serving a life sentence plus. What a horrible, horrible man.

EDIT: As to the claim that George Reissfelder was some sort of Mafia soldier, I can't find anything that corroborates MoveOnForAmerica.org's already-bullshit-laden article on that claim. More slander coming from Bush's cronies.
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Good research, Durandal. The bad news is that no one will hear that side of the story, the Kerry campaign will be too slow to react, and Kerry will drop another few points in the swing states. It PAINS ME, but no one cares about the truth, especially not the media. They want quick, dirty, cheap, easy news that the public will eat up despite baseless accusations. God bless America.
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Fire Fly wrote:If I recall correctly, most ads against Bush really aren't that hard. They all talk about the job losses, the economy, the deficeit, etc...nothing really dirty. However, the other side has been on boarderline dirty/pure mud. If Kerry or Kerry supporters want to hit hard, they need to show Bush for all his brilliant stupidity that he is/can be.
The problem is, the Republicans can throw mud and get away with it by wrapping themselves in the patriotism cloak. The Dems, on the other hand, if they throw much, the Republicans cry, "Liberal media!" and CNN and NBC haul ass to ensure that they are not, so we lose our mudslinging chance.
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Bugsby wrote:Good research, Durandal. The bad news is that no one will hear that side of the story, the Kerry campaign will be too slow to react, and Kerry will drop another few points in the swing states.
Precisely. I've said it before; a false accusation causes more of an impression than the correction or even a retraction. These scumbags know that.
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A pity the public isn't giving this mudslinging the same treatment that Gray Davis and Cruz Bustamante got in the last election for their party throwing mud (for the past several years, too).

God. I feel like taking a sharpened telephone pole and ramming it up the collective ass of all the morons running the 527s, regardless of whose side they're on. Shitcocks and hatfuckers, all of them.
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Crayz9000 wrote:A pity the public isn't giving this mudslinging the same treatment that Gray Davis and Cruz Bustamante got in the last election for their party throwing mud (for the past several years, too).
Wait a minute. Davis got schooled not because he threw mud, but because he had acted like a complete moron while he was in office, and people were tired of it.

Bustamonte got schooled not because he threw mud, but because his election platform was the stupidest in the history of politics. "Don't vote for Ah-nuld, he has no political experience. Vote for me! I've been Lt. Governor for years and I've never even talked to the Governor! I've got all the experience, here. And, speaking of the governor, vote for him, too! He's an even better choice than I am--never mind the fact that he sucks."
God. I feel like taking a sharpened telephone pole and ramming it up the collective ass of all the morons running the 527s, regardless of whose side they're on. Shitcocks and hatfuckers, all of them.
While I disagree with your examples of when people got beat because they threw mud, I agree that 527's typically suck.
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Incompetence was a significant factor, yes. I don't know what the precise figures were for public backlash against the mud campaigns, but I do know that many people I'm acquainted with on both sides of the fence, as well as many of the people in the media here were getting tired of it (I often saw local anchors shaking their heads at all the shit).

There were also several polls conducted during the Davis' re-election campaign and the recall campaign that suggested many Californians were fed up with mud. They showed the stats on local TV; I don't quite remember the figures, and I don't have the sources. But I do have a couple of quotes.
NY Times, Sept 28 2003 wrote:The unanswered question is whether Mr. Davis can take on Mr. Schwarzenegger without resorting to what many Californians regard as his natural political reflex -- an unseemly knack for the underhanded -- and thereby undoing the progress that Senator Feinstein and others insist he has made in winning back many voters. "People's perceptions are that he is a nasty man who fights dirty," said Barbara O'Connor, director of the Institute for the Study of Politics and Media at California State University at Sacramento. "The strategy has been to deflect that and show a kinder, gentler Gray Davis. The decision now to challenge and attack Arnold is a markedly different strategy. It is risky. People will be reminded of the old Gray Davis they didn't like." Mr. Davis's aides say they will be careful to make sure that does not happen. Peter Ragone, a Davis spokesman, said the anti-Schwarzenegger advertisements in production do not feature Mr. Davis. In fact, he said, there are no plans to put him in any advertisements.
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What Davis did not figure -- despite advisors' loud warnings -- was that the negative ads also would depress his own vote. The spots drove away potential voters who lean Democrat. And nobody can be sure where they'll be leaning when they return. Maybe Republican.
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Bugsby wrote:Good research, Durandal. The bad news is that no one will hear that side of the story, the Kerry campaign will be too slow to react, and Kerry will drop another few points in the swing states. It PAINS ME, but no one cares about the truth, especially not the media. They want quick, dirty, cheap, easy news that the public will eat up despite baseless accusations. God bless America.
The even sadder part is that I got all of that information with not 10 minutes of Googling. But apparently the majority of the voting electorate can't spare that kind of time to research the more outrageous claims coming from one side of the fence.
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Crayz9000 wrote:Incompetence was a significant factor, yes. I don't know what the precise figures were for public backlash against the mud campaigns, but I do know that many people I'm acquainted with on both sides of the fence, as well as many of the people in the media here were getting tired of it (I often saw local anchors shaking their heads at all the shit).

There were also several polls conducted during the Davis' re-election campaign and the recall campaign that suggested many Californians were fed up with mud. They showed the stats on local TV; I don't quite remember the figures, and I don't have the sources. But I do have a couple of quotes.
Hmmm... it would probably be impossible to determine why people didn't like him (frankly, their reasons are too numerous to count), but I'm sure that incompetence was the biggest factor--after all, his incompetence was the stated reason for the recall election in the first place--though, negativity doubtless played a role.
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The Reissfelder ad is just stupid as it was Kerry's job to try and get the guy off.

Any attack on a link between Kerry and Sharpton however, is legitimate given the fact that Sharpton's a Grade A nutcase. This ad could be really damaging.

WTF is up with Kerry and the Cali cartel, though?
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Glocksman wrote:The Reissfelder ad is just stupid as it was Kerry's job to try and get the guy off.

Any attack on a link between Kerry and Sharpton however, is legitimate given the fact that Sharpton's a Grade A nutcase. This ad could be really damaging.
I'd be surprised if Kerry gave Sharpton any position in his administration, should he be elected. Kerry's been running his campaign trying not to piss people off.
WTF is up with Kerry and the Cali cartel, though?
Who knows? Given the kind of shit these guys are slinging in their opening salvo though, I can't say that I think there's going to be any more truth to their Kerry/Cali drug cartel accusations than there were to Moore's Bush/Bin Laden connections.
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Master of Ossus wrote:
Crayz9000 wrote:Incompetence was a significant factor, yes. I don't know what the precise figures were for public backlash against the mud campaigns, but I do know that many people I'm acquainted with on both sides of the fence, as well as many of the people in the media here were getting tired of it (I often saw local anchors shaking their heads at all the shit).

There were also several polls conducted during the Davis' re-election campaign and the recall campaign that suggested many Californians were fed up with mud. They showed the stats on local TV; I don't quite remember the figures, and I don't have the sources. But I do have a couple of quotes.
Hmmm... it would probably be impossible to determine why people didn't like him (frankly, their reasons are too numerous to count), but I'm sure that incompetence was the biggest factor--after all, his incompetence was the stated reason for the recall election in the first place--though, negativity doubtless played a role.
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The FBI having Sharpton on video trying to make cocaine deals has been public knowledge for twenty years. The only reason nobody uses his known past drug/mafia ties against him is because he's not powerful enough to be worth the stink. Though Sharpton did threaten to sue HBO for something nuts like a billion dollars a couple years ago, after they showed the video.
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The reason they didn't put Sharpton away is because they wanted to flip him, and use him to take down Don King. Sharpton bent over backwards to accomodate the FBI and wore a wire to his meetings with King, knowing his ass was on the line. But King, ever the true Teflon Don, said nothing really actionable in Sharpton's presence.
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All I can say is, thank fuck I live in a country with decent defemation laws. The law actually covers this kind of shit such as character assasination by inference and inuendo. Even if what you say is technically not a lie, if you couch it to give an impression that is not true, your ass is now actionable.
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