Interesting viewpoint

[Typhonis 1]

MY Dad sent me this email a friend sent him


How Would The D-Day Invasion be Reported Today?

by Alex McRae June 6, 1944. -NORMANDY- Three hundred French civilians
were killed and thousands more wounded today in the first hours of
America's invasion of continental Europe. Casualties were heaviest among
women and children. Most of the French casualties were the result of
artillery fire from American ships attempting to knock out German
fortifications prior to the landing of hundreds of thousands of U.S.
troops. Reports from a makeshift hospital in the French town of St. Mere
Eglise said the carnage was far worse than the French had anticipated
and reaction against the American invasion was running high. "We are
dying for no reason," said a Frenchman speaking on condition of
anonymity. "Americans can't even shoot straight. I never thought I'd say
this, but life was better under Adolph Hitler." The invasion also caused
severe environmental damage. American troops, tanks, trucks and
machinery destroyed miles of pristine shoreline and thousands of acres
of ecologically sensitive wetlands. It was believed that the habitat of
the spineless French crab was completely wiped out, threatening the
species with extinction. A representative of Greenpeace said his
organization, which had tried to stall the invasion for over a year, was
appalled at the destruction, but, not surprised.

"This is just another example of how the military destroys the
environment without a second thought, " said Christine Moanmore.

"And it's all about corporate greed."

Contacted at his Manhattan condo, a member of the French
government-in-exile who abandoned Paris when Hitler invaded said the
invasion was based solely on American financial interests. "Everyone
knows the President Roosevelt has ties to big beer," said Pierre LeWimp.
"Once the German beer industry is conquered, Roosevelt's beer cronies
will control the world market and make a fortune."

Administration supporters said America's aggressive actions were based
in part on the assertions of controversial scientist Albert Einstein,
who sent a letter to Roosevelt speculating that the Germans were
developing a secret weapon, a so-called "atomic bomb." Such a weapon
could produce casualties on a scale never seen before and cause
environmental damage that could last for thousands of years.

Hitler has denied having such a weapon and international inspectors were
unable to locate such weapons even after spending two long weekends in
Germany. Shortly after the invasion began reports surfaced that German
prisoners had been abused by Americans. Mistreatment of Jews by Germans
at so- called "concentration camps" has been rumored but so far, remains
unproven.

Several thousand Americans died during the first hours of the invasion
and French officials are concerned that uncollected corpses pose a
public health risk. "The Americans should have planned for this in
advance," they said. "It's their mess and we don't intend to clean it up."

I'm glad the soldiers who fought and died so bravely on D-Day and
throughout World War II did so decades ago. In the 1940s war was hell,
but at least our troops didn't have to fight the media folks back home.

[Darth Wong]

I'm so sick of these asinine comparisons of Iraq's threat capability to the capabilities of the Nazi Regime. If Iraq's military were as advanced and powerful relative to the other major powers as the Nazi military was, the war would have been rightfully seen in a completely different light.

[Quadlok]

Thats an incredibly moronic comparison.

First, French civilians were well aware that they ma be caught in a crossfire if and when the allies invaded, and accepted it as neccessary to regain their freedom, and many of them had risked imprisonment, torture, and death to undermine the Nazi occupation.

Secondly, Any damage to ecosystems was already done by German built barricades, and quite possibly by Norman sips launching for the invasion of England in 1066. Seriously, not much of Europe has a 'pristine' ecosystem.

Third, Germany was known to have access to large Uranium mines in Checoslovakia, and the services of many of the worlds top physicists. That, for some, reason, the Nazi regime never seemed to realize the potential of nuclear energy, does not lesten the apparent threat the allies faced.

Fourth, German prisoners were treated relatively well for the most part. In fact, they were often treated better than non-white American soldiers.

Fifth, widespread harrasment and internment of Jews was already known to have happened thanks to accounts given by people fleeing from Germany while that was still possible, and there were plenty of rumors floating around of the true horror going on at the camps.

Sixth, FDR and Beer? Now thats complete bullshit, unlike the widely publicized information concerning Bush's, and virtually his entire administration's, ties to the oil industry. Whether or not the invasion of Iraq was actually some sort of plot to lock up the mid-east oil supply is something I don't want to get into.

Seventh, Waging a war against a nation that had invaded many nations, bombed your close ally, was allied itself with a nation that had launched an unprovoked attack against basicly all our holdings in the Pacific, and has a very large and well equipped military, is very different from invading a nation that was already reduced to irrelevancy through a decade of bombings, sanctions, and weapons inspectors, under the false pretence that it had been aiding Al Queda and had the means and motivations to use WMDs against us.

If you couldn't tell, that thing just pissed me off to no end.

[Nathan F]

Guys, you're taking this too literally. I sort of see where this is coming from, and I believe the French were used simply because they are such easy targets. I'm viewing it as a parody of the warped priorities often viewed by some news agencies and other interested organizations in events such as this, nothing more, nothing less.

Loosen up the kneejerk reactions a bit.

[Iceberg]

Guys, you're taking this too literally. I sort of see where this is coming from, and I believe the French were used simply because they are such easy targets. I'm viewing it as a parody of the warped priorities often viewed by some news agencies and other interested organizations in events such as this, nothing more, nothing less.

Loosen up the kneejerk reactions a bit.

I'm far more concerned with the warped priorities of our government at the moment, kthxmchbye.

[Quadlok]

Guys, you're taking this too literally. I sort of see where this is coming from, and I believe the French were used simply because they are such easy targets. I'm viewing it as a parody of the warped priorities often viewed by some news agencies and other interested organizations in events such as this, nothing more, nothing less.

Loosen up the kneejerk reactions a bit.

Dammit, I know its in jest, that doesn't mean I can't post a long winded refutation pointing out that its amazingly moronic. Its in bad taste, and its just not funny. Except the spineless crab, that was kind of funny, if a little oxymoronic, since all arthropods are, by definition, spineless.

[Rogue 9]

Fourth, German prisoners were treated relatively well for the most part. In fact, they were often treated better than non-white American soldiers.

Whaaaa? Gassing is humane treatment?

[frigidmagi]

He meant German prisoners of the US were treated well, on average, Rogue.

[Rogue 9]

Ah. I read that completely backwards...

[Ace Pace]

This makes me glad that no more major wars are fought, not because of the waste of lives, but how soldiers today are not honored, but shamed, does the media today live inside a bubble of security that allows them to act rashly and with no constraint under "free Press"?

[Warspite]

To me, this is the only funniest part...

A representative of Greenpeace said his
organization, which had tried to stall the invasion for over a year, was
appalled at the destruction, but, not surprised.

A funny sight, if Greenpeace went back and forth in rubber boats on the beaches, putting themselves in front of the landing craft to prevent their landing, or putting up big sheets on the German bunkers, saying "Stop the murders!".


(And see them get blown to bits by both sides, of course...)

[PainRack]

This makes me glad that no more major wars are fought, not because of the waste of lives, but how soldiers today are not honored, but shamed, does the media today live inside a bubble of security that allows them to act rashly and with no constraint under "free Press"?

That's because you work for the wrong media. Al Jazeera and their cronies now, lose a limb, get blown up in the course of duty and you're lauded.

[BoredShirtless]

Warping recent history to appease a massive insecurity complex.

What is an American?

Jeopardy!

[His Divine Shadow]

Guys, you're taking this too literally. I sort of see where this is coming from, and I believe the French were used simply because they are such easy targets. I'm viewing it as a parody of the warped priorities often viewed by some news agencies and other interested organizations in events such as this, nothing more, nothing less.

Loosen up the kneejerk reactions a bit.

Actually this is precisely the thing that needs be done with crap like this.

[Typhonis 1]

How Would The D-Day Invasion be Reported Today?



This is the title of it

[Alyrium Denryle]

He meant German prisoners of the US were treated well, on average, Rogue.

We treated them so well, many refused to go back to germany and immigrated...

[Durandal]

Guys, you're taking this too literally. I sort of see where this is coming from, and I believe the French were used simply because they are such easy targets. I'm viewing it as a parody of the warped priorities often viewed by some news agencies and other interested organizations in events such as this, nothing more, nothing less.

Loosen up the kneejerk reactions a bit.

Ever the right-wing apologist. This is a pro-Bush, right-slanted pile of bullshit meant to dismiss any of the criticisms of the Iraq War as being trivial and inconsequential, and you know it.

[Bob the Gunslinger]

This is a pro-Bush, right-slanted pile of bullshit meant to dismiss any of the criticisms of the Iraq War as being trivial and inconsequential, and you know it.

It's still kind of funny.


French! Hee-hee-hee!

[Stuart Mackey]

Guys, you're taking this too literally. I sort of see where this is coming from, and I believe the French were used simply because they are such easy targets. I'm viewing it as a parody of the warped priorities often viewed by some news agencies and other interested organizations in events such as this, nothing more, nothing less.

Loosen up the kneejerk reactions a bit.

Ever the right-wing apologist. This is a pro-Bush, right-slanted pile of bullshit meant to dismiss any of the criticisms of the Iraq War as being trivial and inconsequential, and you know it.

More to the pont is the attempt to equate Saddams Iraq with Hitler's Germany. For years there have been attempts to make out Iraq as the worlds biggest thrat, despite Iraq being hardly able to stage outside of Iraq a friggin division let alone threaten a western nation.

[Perinquus]

Guys, you're taking this too literally. I sort of see where this is coming from, and I believe the French were used simply because they are such easy targets. I'm viewing it as a parody of the warped priorities often viewed by some news agencies and other interested organizations in events such as this, nothing more, nothing less.

Loosen up the kneejerk reactions a bit.

Ever the right-wing apologist. This is a pro-Bush, right-slanted pile of bullshit meant to dismiss any of the criticisms of the Iraq War as being trivial and inconsequential, and you know it.

More to the pont is the attempt to equate Saddams Iraq with Hitler's Germany. For years there have been attempts to make out Iraq as the worlds biggest thrat, despite Iraq being hardly able to stage outside of Iraq a friggin division let alone threaten a western nation.

I see your point. In it's day, Nazi Germany was a major industrialized, first world power, with a highly educated population, and technology as advanced as any in the world at that time. Consequently, it possessed an unusually high ability to project its power abroad, compared to other nations. While Iraq under Saddam, despite possessing, I think it was the world's fourth largest army, was essentially a third world country. None of its major weapons systems were of local design or manufacture, and the country had an extremely underdeveloped technological base.

But one thing changes the situation, and it's a factor you seem to be overlooking. In the modern, post nuclear age, a country simply need no longer be a world superpower to be capable of inflicting catastrophic damage. North Korea is as economically poor and wretched a country as there is today. The common people of that country exist at subsistence level. the country cannot even meet its own needs agriculturally or in terms of electrical power. It has to buy or borrow these things from China. Yet the country powerful militarily out of all proprtion to its size or economy, at least for the short term (it's economic situation is such that it coudn't sustain a protracted conflict). And if it completes its nuclear program, it will become one of the most dangerous countries on earth - prohibitively expensive even for a superpower like the U.S. to attack. This level of power was not possible for a poor country to attain in the pre-nuclear age. It is possible now. And this is the reason people today regard nations like Saddam's Iraq as a terrible threat.

[Patrick Degan]

But one thing changes the situation, and it's a factor you seem to be overlooking. In the modern, post nuclear age, a country simply need no longer be a world superpower to be capable of inflicting catastrophic damage. North Korea is as economically poor and wretched a country as there is today. The common people of that country exist at subsistence level. the country cannot even meet its own needs agriculturally or in terms of electrical power. It has to buy or borrow these things from China. Yet the country powerful militarily out of all proprtion to its size or economy, at least for the short term (it's economic situation is such that it coudn't sustain a protracted conflict). And if it completes its nuclear program, it will become one of the most dangerous countries on earth - prohibitively expensive even for a superpower like the U.S. to attack. This level of power was not possible for a poor country to attain in the pre-nuclear age. It is possible now. And this is the reason people today regard nations like Saddam's Iraq as a terrible threat.

The problem is that Iraq wasn't even in the same league as North Korea, and trying to inflate Saddam Hussein as Adolf Hitler mk. II was and remains ludicrous on its face. Which is what little bullshit pieces like this article attempt to do.

[Perinquus]

But one thing changes the situation, and it's a factor you seem to be overlooking. In the modern, post nuclear age, a country simply need no longer be a world superpower to be capable of inflicting catastrophic damage. North Korea is as economically poor and wretched a country as there is today. The common people of that country exist at subsistence level. the country cannot even meet its own needs agriculturally or in terms of electrical power. It has to buy or borrow these things from China. Yet the country powerful militarily out of all proprtion to its size or economy, at least for the short term (it's economic situation is such that it coudn't sustain a protracted conflict). And if it completes its nuclear program, it will become one of the most dangerous countries on earth - prohibitively expensive even for a superpower like the U.S. to attack. This level of power was not possible for a poor country to attain in the pre-nuclear age. It is possible now. And this is the reason people today regard nations like Saddam's Iraq as a terrible threat.

The problem is that Iraq wasn't even in the same league as North Korea, and trying to inflate Saddam Hussein as Adolf Hitler mk. II was and remains ludicrous on its face. Which is what little bullshit pieces like this article attempt to do.

We know that now, in retrospect. It wasn't so apparent even five years ago.

[Edi]

We know that now, in retrospect. It wasn't so apparent even five years ago.

Only if you were actively ignoring available evidence, and this applies especially to the past couple of years that leading up to the current war.

Edi

[Stuart Mackey]

But one thing changes the situation, and it's a factor you seem to be overlooking. In the modern, post nuclear age, a country simply need no longer be a world superpower to be capable of inflicting catastrophic damage. North Korea is as economically poor and wretched a country as there is today. The common people of that country exist at subsistence level. the country cannot even meet its own needs agriculturally or in terms of electrical power. It has to buy or borrow these things from China. Yet the country powerful militarily out of all proprtion to its size or economy, at least for the short term (it's economic situation is such that it coudn't sustain a protracted conflict). And if it completes its nuclear program, it will become one of the most dangerous countries on earth - prohibitively expensive even for a superpower like the U.S. to attack. This level of power was not possible for a poor country to attain in the pre-nuclear age. It is possible now. And this is the reason people today regard nations like Saddam's Iraq as a terrible threat.

Nukes do make a nation capable of inflicting massive damage, and N Korea's millitary may be somewhat difficult to get at, but for all that even N Korea cannot defeat the US or even S Korea, so while they are a problem they are not in any way a threat to civillisation.

[Stuart Mackey]

We know that now, in retrospect. It wasn't so apparent even five years ago.

Not true..we knew what Iraq was capable of right after they were defeated in 91, which is not much. Rice and Powell have even admitted that Iraq was not a threat, before 9/11 naturally.