Unless you can corrolate that to an average ticket price that doesn't give us much for numbers. Especially considering it played for the most part in pricy art houses for most of it's run.
In Minneapolis-St. Paul, right now (tonight), F9/11 is playing at AMC Theaters Southdale, the Woodbury 10 and the Har-Mar 11. All of these theaters are commercial multiplexes, NOT "pricy art houses." Next unsuccessful canard?
Iceberg wrote:F9/11 and BfC were both highly commercially successful films based on return on investment. Based on return on investment, F9/11 is one of the most successful films ever made (and keep in mind that F9/11 is still in theatrical release).
And it is a big return on investment. So what? It's still a relatively small movie all things considered.
A hundred million dollars in revenue is NOT a small film by any stretch of the imagination. Especially on a movie that was made on six million. That's a 1,667% return on investment. And that's before DVD sales (the DVD goes on sale in early October).
The numbers are against you, Stormbringer.
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Christ, cut the master debater bullshit, Iceberg. It's painful to watch.
And the film most certainly didn't take in 100 million in net proceeds domestically; that's just the gross, and movie theatres kind of have to take a pretty hefty chunk of that in order to pay their employees, pay for food/drinks and overhead, and make a profit. Not that the movie hasn't been very profitable (it would have been profitable at about 20 million, actually), but it's not quite a 1,667 percent ROI (keep in mind there are millions of dollars of marketing costs in the mix, also, and millions more that will be spent marketing the DVD when it comes out).
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Crap, why did I say 20 million? It's probably more like 50-55 million, since the marketing costs were so high relative to the budget.
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In Minneapolis-St. Paul, right now (tonight), F9/11 is playing at AMC Theaters Southdale, the Woodbury 10 and the Har-Mar 11. All of these theaters are commercial multiplexes, NOT "pricy art houses." Next unsuccessful canard?
Anecdotal evidence. It has departed from a great many mulitplexes a long time ago, that it hasn't at yours doesn't disprove that.
A hundred million dollars in revenue is NOT a small film by any stretch of the imagination. Especially on a movie that was made on six million. That's a 1,667% return on investment. And that's before DVD sales (the DVD goes on sale in early October).
That's the box office take. That dwindles a great deal before you get actual profits. It's profitable movie and a spectactular return on investment. But then again so was Clerks.
In Minneapolis-St. Paul, right now (tonight), F9/11 is playing at AMC Theaters Southdale, the Woodbury 10 and the Har-Mar 11. All of these theaters are commercial multiplexes, NOT "pricy art houses." Next unsuccessful canard?
Anecdotal evidence. It has departed from a great many mulitplexes a long time ago, that it hasn't at yours doesn't disprove that.
Anecdotal evidence: "all of my friends saw it at multiplexes so it must be playing at multiplexes."
Hard evidence: "none of the movie theaters still showing F9/11 in the 15th largest metropolitan area in the United States (Minneapolis-St. Paul) are art houses, therefore your statement that F9/11 is shown primarily by art houses is likely to be incorrect."
A hundred million dollars in revenue is NOT a small film by any stretch of the imagination. Especially on a movie that was made on six million. That's a 1,667% return on investment. And that's before DVD sales (the DVD goes on sale in early October).
That's the box office take. That dwindles a great deal before you get actual profits. It's profitable movie and a spectactular return on investment. But then again so was Clerks.
Clerks cost $230,000 to make and grossed $3.15 million.
F9/11 cost $6 million to make and when its run ends in a few weeks will probably have topped $120 million. Not even in the same league, let alone in the same ballpark.
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F9/11's to-date gross of $118 million is greater than that of Basic Instinct, Rocky, 8 Mile, Big, The Addams Family, Star Trek IV, Black Hawk Down, Con Air and Die Hard with a Vengeance.
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Stormbringer wrote:
That's the box office take. That dwindles a great deal before you get actual profits. It's profitable movie and a spectactular return on investment. But then again so was Clerks.
Stormbringer, perhaps you do not understand the level of profitability that F-9/11 received. This is the kind of movie that studios and producers drool over, a low budget film that doesn't require much marketing that makes a shitload of money, even for a mainstream picture. Michael Moore has catapulted himself into one of the hotest properties in Hollywood for the simple fact that his movies have a huge built in audience, require little marketing due to heavy word of mouth and cost nothing to make. In Hollywood, this kind of movie is called the "Something About Mary" or "American Pie" flick, a movie that comes out of nowhere to capture a huge audience with almost no budget or name actors and they take careful notice of these types of films. The most interesting thing here is, Moore actually has the capability to recreate this kind of success unlike your typical "Something about Mary" film.
And BTW, Kevin Smith movies never saw near the profitability level of Michael Moore's films and unlike Smith, Moore's films will never cost much more than a paltry sum to produce and market whereas Smith's films have gotten progressively more expensive.
I'm fairly certain I recall reading that marketing for F9/11 was only around $6 million dollars, since Moore himself and word-of-mouth were the most effective tools they had.
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