US Wants Syria out of Lebanon

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Axis Kast wrote:
Nice try, Mr. "Everything ties into Iraq", but it doesn't. Plain fact is, you still have no support for your contention beyond mere assertion that it does. It really would be a refreshing change if you'd at least try to offer some evidentiary backing for your spew.

An alternative speculation which might be closer to the mark would be this: that this is yet another instance of this White House carrying Ariel Sharon's water in all matters of policy.
It's common sense, you idiot. The United States is, in part, angry at Syria because of its connections to Iraq.

Here's another interesting article:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1192302/posts
From a decidedly biased source and which still has no demonstrable relevance to the issue actually before the bar in this discussion.

Oh and I guess you skipped over this bit in the article:
The Moonie Times wrote:excerpt:

The recent discovery by the Bush administration's Iraq Survey Group (ISG) is fueling speculation, but is not proof, that the Iraqi dictator moved prohibited weapons of mass destruction (WMD) into Syria before the March 2003 invasion by a U.S.-led coalition.
Even from what's written in Moon's paper, the case is far from 100% and is about in line with all the other "gotchas" allegedly corroborated by the usual unnamed sources whose credibility we can't immediately examine about Saddam's increasingly mythical WMD arsenal.

You're really reaching this time.
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What the fuck do you fail to understand here, Deegan?

It's quite clear: one of the reasons Washington is unhappy with Syria has to do with their open border arrangement. It's an obvious issue.
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Axis Kast wrote:It's quite clear: one of the reasons Washington is unhappy with Syria has to do with their open border arrangement. It's an obvious issue.
Non-sequitor. The alleged dispute over one issue —the linkage to which you still can't back up with anything beyond speculation— does not demonstrate a driver for this draft resolution over Syrian occupation of Lebanese territory.
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Axis Kast wrote:It's quite clear: one of the reasons Washington is unhappy with Syria has to do with their open border arrangement. It's an obvious issue.
Non-sequitor. The alleged dispute over one issue —the linkage to which you still can't back up with anything beyond speculation— does not demonstrate a driver for this draft resolution over Syrian occupation of Lebanese territory.
Do you expect better from him? I simply cannot be bothered with him any more.
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Non-sequitor. The alleged dispute over one issue —the linkage to which you still can't back up with anything beyond speculation— does not demonstrate a driver for this draft resolution over Syrian occupation of Lebanese territory.
An issue, not the[/i] issue. As in "one of many," or "yet another reason," not "the sole cause."

Anybody with half a brain and an understanding of the circumstances surrounding the War in Iraq is capable of seeing this. In fact, I feel confident in the utmost that you're only challenging it because it came from my keyboard.
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Axis Kast wrote:
Non-sequitor. The alleged dispute over one issue —the linkage to which you still can't back up with anything beyond speculation— does not demonstrate a driver for this draft resolution over Syrian occupation of Lebanese territory.
An issue, not the issue. As in "one of many," or "yet another reason," not "the sole cause."

Anybody with half a brain and an understanding of the circumstances surrounding the War in Iraq is capable of seeing this. In fact, I feel confident in the utmost that you're only challenging it because it came from my keyboard.
You mean those "circumstances" where the case for the war has collapsed into a pile of rubble, that is. Sorry, but continually trying to conflate one event with the other does not make it true no matter how much you dearly wish it did. Now either present some solid backing for your contention or admit you don't know anything beyond mere speculation.
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You mean those "circumstances" where the case for the war has collapsed into a pile of rubble, that is. Sorry, but continually trying to conflate one event with the other does not make it true no matter how much you dearly wish it did. Now either present some solid backing for your contention or admit you don't know anything beyond mere speculation.
Of course it's speculation, you blithering idiot. Do I look like a policy-maker to you? Of course, the fact that it's speculation on my part doesn't detract from the logic surrounding the assessment. After all, why else would the United States choose this moment to take Syria to task without having a variety of arguing points in their pocket?
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Axis Kast wrote:
You mean those "circumstances" where the case for the war has collapsed into a pile of rubble, that is. Sorry, but continually trying to conflate one event with the other does not make it true no matter how much you dearly wish it did. Now either present some solid backing for your contention or admit you don't know anything beyond mere speculation.
Of course it's speculation, you blithering idiot. Do I look like a policy-maker to you? Of course, the fact that it's speculation on my part doesn't detract from the logic surrounding the assessment. After all, why else would the United States choose this moment to take Syria to task without having a variety of arguing points in their pocket?
Of course, it just happens that the SC resolution came at the instigation of the France and US worked with them on it, iirc! Furthermore, you can pretend to be logical all you like, but your argument is completely fucking worthless and without any merit whatsoever until you or someone else presents the actual evidence to support it. Now kindly shut the fuck up, your bullshit is getting tiresome.

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