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By Oleg Shchedrov

MOSCOW (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin ordered sweeping changes to Russia's political system on Monday to help combat terrorism, but immediately drew accusations of exploiting this month's bloody school siege to boost his power.

The Kremlin leader, speaking in the wake of the hostage crisis in Beslan, told top officials he wanted a new election law to limit the number of political parties and to have full control over nominating regional leaders.

Putin, 51, said the changes were vital to boost state authority after the Beslan tragedy, in which children made up half of the hostages killed when Chechen rebels raided their school in southern Russia.

"The fight against terrorism should become a national task," Putin told ministers and governors from Russia's 89 regions.

The president later issued a decree giving the government two weeks to draft proposals to deal with emergencies and a month to prepare "appropriate measures on foreseeing and preventing terrorism in any form."

It called for proposals to improve the work of security forces, whose performance in Beslan has been widely criticized, and to toughen controls on issuing visas and entering Russia.

Critics said Putin's proposed changes were further proof that the former KGB spy, who has muzzled major independent media and turned parliament and government into rubber stamps of Kremlin policy, was rolling back post-Soviet democracy.

"The last link in the system of checks and balances, which has prevented an excessive concentration of power in one pair of hands, is being abolished," the opposition party Yabloko said in a statement.

Putin, re-elected to the Kremlin by a landslide in March, said reform was required in view of the threat from terrorism.

CHANGING THE ELECTORAL SYSTEM

He said the State Duma, parliament's lower house, should now be elected solely from party lists.

After a massive Kremlin-backed campaign against Communists and liberal parties, the pro-Kremlin United Russia secured more than two-thirds of seats in the Duma in the last election.

Half the Duma's 450 deputies are elected on party lists and the main parties also take many of the local constituencies that account for the other seats. But almost 100 returned independent deputies or members from parties which won no seats on lists.

"In the interests of strengthening the national political system I deem it necessary to introduce a proportional system of elections to the State Duma," Putin said. "I will soon initiate an appropriate bill in the Duma."

Putin also said the Kremlin should have a decisive say over the nomination of regional governors.

"Top officials in the members of the Federation should be elected by local legislative assemblies by nomination of the head of state," Putin said.


His rivals said the changes would entrench the Kremlin's domination of the legislature but do nothing against terrorism.

"Putin has proposed renting out parliament to puppet Moscow-based parties," said Vladimir Ryzhkov, a rare liberal independent in the Duma. "In fact this will only strengthen his personal powers."

"The will of a single person is imposed on the whole of society," echoed Communist party leader Gennady Zyuganov. "What he is looking for is the usurping of power."

Independent-minded governors were a major force under Putin's predecessor Boris Yeltsin, but Putin ousted them from the upper house and replaced them with nominated proxies.

"The president's proposal will contribute to consolidation of power," pro-Kremlin analyst Sergei Markov told Ekho Moskvy radio.

"But at the same time it means an end to direct gubernatorial elections, which will lead to a diminishing of the role of local authorities and to a general decline of pluralism in the country."
Emphasis mine.

So, not only is he exploiting the tragedy for political gain, he's about to violate the Russian constitution by abolishing gubernatorial elections, and fucking up the Duma to eliminate his last opponents.

Now, for perspective, consider the following scenario: After 9/11, Bush states that in the interests of Homeland Security, State governors are no longer popularly elected, but are rather appointed by the White House, and approved by the State Legislature. Also, he would radically change Congress by making half of it elected in indivdual, rather than party-based elections (this is the current situation in Russia, which is about to be changed, but like I said, this is for perspective).

Oh, and he would do this without a constitutional amendment. See the problem here?

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Can he do that? I assume that Russia has something in their system that will prevent him from getting that much of a boost in power, right?
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It's inevitable enough, Putin was heading towards being the next Dictator for a long time. It's no suprise he's using this to do more; it would have been suprising had he not.

It seems to me that Russia just doesn't get democracy. *shrug* History repeats itself I guess.
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Well they gave it their best. I wonder what creature will emerge from the corpse.
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Stormbringer wrote:It's inevitable enough, Putin was heading towards being the next Dictator for a long time. It's no suprise he's using this to do more; it would have been suprising had he not.

It seems to me that Russia just doesn't get democracy. *shrug* History repeats itself I guess.
Don't blame Russia. its not our fault. Blame that KGB fuck for destroying democratic Russia. :evil:

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Hmm, possible Russian Civil War? Too bad Aleksandr Lebed died in
a Helo crash, I could see him ordering his Siberians to refuse orders
from Moscow....
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MOSCOW (AP) - Responding to a series of deadly terror attacks, President Vladimir Putin on Monday moved to significantly strengthen the Kremlin's grip on power, with new measures that include the naming of regional governors and an overhaul of the electoral system.

Putin told Cabinet members and security officials convened in special session that the future of Russia was at stake and urged the creation of a central, powerful anti-terror agency.

"The organizers and perpetrators of the terror attack are aiming at the disintegration of the state, the breakup of Russia," he said. "We need a single organization capable of not only dealing with terror attacks but also working to avert them, destroy criminals in their hideouts, and if necessary, abroad."

Putin's declaration followed a series of stunning terror attacks blamed on Chechen rebels, climaxing in the three-day school seizure in southern Russia in which more than 330 people were killed.

He said he would propose legislation abolishing the election of local governors by popular vote. Instead, they would be nominated by the president and confirmed by local legislatures - a move that would undo the remaining vestiges of the local autonomy already chipped away by Putin during his first term in office.

Putin explained his move by the need to streamline and strengthen the executive branch to make it more capable of combating terror.

His critics immediately assailed the proposal as a self-destructive effort that could fuel dissent in the provinces.

"The abolition of elections in the Russian regions deals a blow to the foundations of Russian federalism and means the return to the extremely inefficient system of government," said Sergei Mitrokhin, a leading member of the liberal Yabloko party.

Sergei Markov, a political analyst with close ties to the Kremlin, said the president's move against the governors could help curb corruption that has flourished in some regions.

"At the same time, it means ... a lowering of (their) general political authority and a serious lowering of political pluralism," Markov told Ekho Moskvy radio.

In another move aimed to strengthen the federal authorities, Putin recommended eliminating the individual races that currently fill half of the seats in the national parliament and have the entire lower house filled by parties on a proportional basis.

Putin said that the move would help foster dialogue by expanding the clout of political parties, but his opponents warned it would further increase the clout of the Kremlin-controlled parliament factions that already enjoy an overwhelming majority in the lower house, the State Duma.

Vladimir Ryzhkov, one of the few opposition deputies, scorned the president's political proposals and said if they were approved, "the next Duma will be simply virtual, it will consist of just marionette party lists and won't enjoy any authority."

"How is it possible the president doesn't understand that it won't strengthen the country, it will further tear apart the unity of the country and tear federal organs power away from the people?" he told Ekho Moskvy radio. "Yes, the Kremlin's authority will be strengthened, but the country will be weakened."

Although Putin has been criticized for strengthening his own powers in the past, three weeks of violence and the deaths of 430 people have led to increased support among the Russian people for measures to combat terrorism.

Putin named one of his closest confidants, Cabinet chief of staff Dmitry Kozak, to represent him in the southern district that includes the Caucasus.

Putin said official corruption that had helped terrorists - such as the issuing of documents "leading to grave consequences," should be punished with particular severity.

He also signaled a possible government crackdown on Islamic groups, proposing that extremist organizations serving as a cover for terrorists should be outlawed.

A new structure called the Public Chamber would strengthen public oversight of the government and the actions of law enforcement agencies, he said. The chamber would involve non-governmental organizations and other groups in the fight against terror.

Putin said that terrorism is rooted in the North Caucasus' low living standards, in widespread unemployment, and in poor education.

"This is a rich, fertile ground for the growth of extremist propaganda and the recruitment of new supporters of terror," Putin said. "The North Caucasus is a key strategic region for Russia. It is a victim of terrorism and also a springboard for it."
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Russian democracy is pretty frail. It's history is short and stormy, the population is poor and under pressure, and no sign of things getting much better in the imediate future. The condition just aren't good for a healthy deomcracy.
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here's the thing, he hasn't signed them into law yet:

He said he would propose legislation abolishing the election of local governors by popular vote. Instead, they would be nominated by the president and confirmed by local legislatures - a move that would undo the remaining vestiges of the local autonomy already chipped away by Putin during his first term in office.

Somehow, I don't think the 89 governors, even the putin cronies would
want their jobs to be appointed by the Kremlin...
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Gil Hamilton wrote:Can he do that? I assume that Russia has something in their system that will prevent him from getting that much of a boost in power, right?
Probably. But a Constitution, as we so well know, is so much toilet paper if it's not actually defended. And our fuzzy hatted friends don't seem terribly inclined to do that.
fgalkin wrote:Don't blame Russia. its not our fault. Blame that KGB fuck for destroying democratic Russia. :evil:
Frankly, it can't all be the KGB (and weren't they disbanded anyway?) because the people still have to sign off on their government. Russia has never had a real democratic tradition and the closest it seems they ever come is to nominate the dictator.
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Hmm, possible Russian Civil War? Too bad Aleksandr Lebed died in
a Helo crash, I could see him ordering his Siberians to refuse orders
from Moscow....
I doubt it. Putin wouldn't be doing this if he hadn't had the military in his pocket. Lebed was the man, but Lebed is dead. Besides, the respect for the constitution isn't that strong in Russia. Most likely, the Governors will take it up the ass and beg for more. Putin already controls about 90% of the Federal governemnt, and has the Duma and the courts in his pocket. Now, he's taking over the local governments, but it won't be a significant difference in everyday life. When Putin's term is over, that's when the fun really starts.

Also, if you remember, there is very strong evidence that the FSB was behind the building explosions that got Putin elected. And now, after a series of terrorist acts, Putin proposes a new plan that would assrape democracy in Russia. Either Putin brilliantly used the situation to his advantage, or he is a sick fuck that deserves to be shot.

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Stormbringer wrote:
Frankly, it can't all be the KGB (and weren't they disbanded anyway?) because the people still have to sign off on their government. Russia has never had a real democratic tradition and the closest it seems they ever come is to nominate the dictator.
The KGB was reformed into the FSB. Which was headed by Vladimir Putin until his appointement as Prime Minister by King Boris.

And yes, sadly, the Russian people apparently don't give a shit about freedom. They have supported Putin all along in his war against free press, and his war against the oligarchs.

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The KGB isn't dead, it has just been broken into several new departments with several new names. Which is nothing new for the KGB/Cheka/NKVD/I can't remeber. Its name changes a lot, but the organization is pretty much the same.

Anybody remember Yeltsen's fun seige of the Duma? I'm pretty sure that isn't considered normal in most democracies (well, maybe Texas :P) What's in the Constitution and what Putin can get away with are two different things.
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Goodbye Russia, hello new USSR.

Damn I now remember a Daily Show report saying that some UN observers believed Putin fixed the election... Then there was that presidental canidate that disappeared...

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frigidmagi wrote:Goodbye Russia, hello new USSR.

Damn I now remember a Daily Show report saying that some UN observers believed Putin fixed the election... Then there was that presidental canidate that disappeared...

Awww Shit.
I've heard it said that when the Soviet Union fell apart, much of it's administration didn't go away, they just got a change in uniform and a new job title. It's no suprise thugs like Putin have such power.
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I wonder what the new USSR would be called. Obviously not exactly USSR. Putin doesn't seem to be a big fan of communism.
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Gil Hamilton wrote:
frigidmagi wrote:Goodbye Russia, hello new USSR.

Damn I now remember a Daily Show report saying that some UN observers believed Putin fixed the election... Then there was that presidental canidate that disappeared...

Awww Shit.
I've heard it said that when the Soviet Union fell apart, much of it's administration didn't go away, they just got a change in uniform and a new job title. It's no suprise thugs like Putin have such power.
That happens often in revolutions. A few years after Lenin seized power, a lot of the Czarist bureaucrats were back. To a certain extent, this is healthy because excessively rapid change causes massive turmoil, which is why people were so stunned when the US simply dismantled everything and fired everyone in Iraq. But it also means that real change comes slowly, and Russia is just demonstrating that.

As for the Constitution, it would appear that Russia does not have activist judges.
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Darth Wong wrote:As for the Constitution, it would appear that Russia does not have activist judges.
There have been a few. They've all mysteriously fallen victim to unknown gunmen and the investigations into their deaths have been quietly buried, which is also what has happened to several overly critical reporters and members of Duma who had the combination of popularity and liberal ideas.

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Shinova wrote:I wonder what the new USSR would be called. Obviously not exactly USSR. Putin doesn't seem to be a big fan of communism.
Not quite. The new Russian anthem is just the old Soviet one with new words (written by the same guy who did the old one- yes, he's still alive, last I checked), and Putin clearly has a soft-spot in his heart for the USSR's security apparatus, and has said good things about it in the past- of course, you can find the silver lining in any cloud.

Where does it say in the constitution that gubernatorial elections are required in the exact form they are now, btw? Because from the article, it seems that Putin is interposing the central authority in the process.
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Vympel wrote:
Shinova wrote:I wonder what the new USSR would be called. Obviously not exactly USSR. Putin doesn't seem to be a big fan of communism.
Not quite. The new Russian anthem is just the old Soviet one with new words (written by the same guy who did the old one- yes, he's still alive, last I checked), and Putin clearly has a soft-spot in his heart for the USSR's security apparatus, and has said good things about it in the past- of course, you can find the silver lining in any cloud.

Where does it say in the constitution that gubernatorial elections are required in the exact form they are now, btw? Because from the article, it seems that Putin is interposing the central authority in the process.
Do you know where to get an Engliosh language copy of the Russian constitution? That might help solve that point. However, this is nothing but a blatant powergrab and is just one more nail in the coffin of Russian "democracy", with Putin wielding the hammer.

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Edi wrote: Do you know where to get an Engliosh language copy of the Russian constitution? That might help solve that point. However, this is nothing but a blatant powergrab and is just one more nail in the coffin of Russian "democracy", with Putin wielding the hammer.

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Section One, Chapter 8, dealing with "Local Self Government" is quite vague.

It's clear the Russian executive branch under Putin has recentralized power much since 1999- whether the democracy hangs on how much independence the regions have from executive power (and in what form) is open to debate.
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Russian Constitution in English here,here and here.

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Article 131 says:

"The structure of bodies of local self-government shall be determined by the population independently."
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