Fifth Imperium vs the Imperial Remanent

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-10-30 10:14pm

The Fifth Imperium as of the end of Heirs of Empire versus the Imperial Remanent at the end of Vision of the Future.

Who is left standing?

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-10-30 10:32pm

If only I knew more about the Fith Imperiunm...

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-10-30 10:37pm

Mr Bean wrote:If only I knew more about the Fith Imperiunm...

Theres plenty of info, if you'd read the books Mr. Bean

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-10-31 07:46am

Is this a troll?

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-10-31 07:50am

I dont think so.

What I've heard of the 5th Imperium they would slaughter the empire.

HRogge · Post by **HRogge** » 2002-10-31 11:19am

Mr Bean wrote:If only I knew more about the Fith Imperiunm...

Standard ship size: planetoid ( larger than our moon ).

FTL-Beam weapons with lightseconds/lightminutes range.

hyperspace missiles ( coming through hyperspace, trying to get out WITHIN the target ) with a range of 50+ lightminutes and a speed of 4000 c.

graviton warheads which simulate an event horizon of up to 400000 km radius.

hyperbeams ( put everything they hit into hyperspace ).

cybernetics for everyone ( 3 times reaction speed, more toughness, FTL comm with lighthour range ).

personal and ship cloaking devices ( become really invisible ) AND ECM.

nearly inertialess drive ( zero speed to .7 c within seconds ).

real space FTL drive ( up to 800 c ).

computer circuits based of forcefields ( molecular circuits are said to be HUGE compared to these )

planetary and system shields.

real time communication with a range of 1000+ lightyears.

instant teleportation between special stations with a range of ~ 800+ lightyears.

sublight missile with a speed of .8 c

Enough information ?

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2002-10-31 03:52pm

Dahak (sp?) And Emperor Colin McIntyre gets an other tropy on the wall

SW is toast

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2002-10-31 05:04pm

As always, the Imps get raped slowly and painfully. Though perhaps a bit faster than normal, in this case. Just how big is the IR?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-10-31 09:32pm

My God, what's next? The UED vs the Culture?

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2002-10-31 10:12pm

Stormbringer wrote:The Fifth Imperium as of the end of Heirs of Empire versus the Imperial Remanent at the end of Vision of the Future.

Who is left standing?

.....

You are a sick fuck for just suggesting such a mismatch.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2002-10-31 11:14pm

This is asinine. 5thI does have pretty slow FTL though.

HRogge · Post by **HRogge** » 2002-11-01 06:19am

Howedar wrote:This is asinine. 5thI does have pretty slow FTL though.

3200 c for planetoids, 4000 c for missiles...

But what's the use of a fast FTL drive if your opponent has enough mobile production capabilites to build a planetary shield around ANY conquered planet and have weapons that kill whole fleets ?

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2002-11-01 04:11pm

Don't get me wrong, the 5thI would wipe the floor with the Empire, let alone the Remnant. I just wanted to point out that 5thI FTL is much slower than the Remnant's.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-11-01 04:19pm

Howedar wrote:Don't get me wrong, the 5thI would wipe the floor with the Empire, let alone the Remnant. I just wanted to point out that 5thI FTL is much slower than the Remnant's.

Yes but the distances are so small that the Remnant can't really run. It might have a few weeks or months before Planetoids could reach every world, but with such a massive firepower mismatch it doesn't matter.

"Planetoid, if you run you only die tired"

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2002-11-01 05:54pm

This is funny....

5th Imperium after Heirs of Empire would have quite a bit of trouble if they were going against the Empire at it's height. However, the Remnant is horribly screwed.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-01 09:41pm

Captain_Cyran wrote:This is funny....

5th Imperium after Heirs of Empire would have quite a bit of trouble if they were going against the Empire at it's height. However, the Remnant is horribly screwed.

Fine, how about the Imperium at the beginning of Heirs to Empire and the Remanent as of the latest NJO book. Neither has any external enemies to worry about.

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2002-11-02 04:09pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Captain_Cyran wrote:This is funny....

5th Imperium after Heirs of Empire would have quite a bit of trouble if they were going against the Empire at it's height. However, the Remnant is horribly screwed.
Fine, how about the Imperium at the beginning of Heirs to Empire and the Remanent as of the latest NJO book. Neither has any external enemies to worry about.

You must have misunderstood me...and you don't seem to be thinking to well. If the 5th Imperium after Heirs of the Empire can take on the Empire at it's height and stand a good chance of WINNING. What will happen the the Remnant?

I believe the term we are looking for is "Imperium smack-down"

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-11-04 10:55pm

What are the starting positions, wormhole, transposed into a big arena by Q, what?
On another note, can I get an official read from the Cult of Weber on the actual volume destroyed when the "20 km chasm" inflicted in Armageddon Inheritance occured. 20 square km at 1 meter thickness, 20 cubic kilometers, some other arbitrary number. Some sort of low, mid, high end figures for planetoid hull strength would be useful.

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2002-11-05 03:58am

The 20 km chasm was a sphere with a radius of 20km carved out of the planetiod. So the actual area is just under 16755 km^3

Formula : (4/3 * pi * r^3) / 2
2/3 *pi * 20^3 = 16755 km^3

As for what numbers you get derrive from that, who knows.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-11-11 12:35am

Are we sure that was a sphere? I don't want to get jumped on when I suggest hull strengths derived from the area of destruction.

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2002-11-11 05:22am

We don't really know. We know it gouged a hole 20 kilometers deep but we don't know how much of that was empty space either.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-11-12 09:31am

That's why I'm trying to get some sort of read for low, mid, high-end volume estimates for the area of destruction.

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