Heinz Kerry visits hurricane relief effort in Brooklyn's Caribbean community
September 15, 2004, 5:42 PM
NEW YORK (AP) -- Teresa Heinz Kerry, encouraging volunteers as they busily packed supplies Wednesday for hurricane relief efforts in the Caribbean, said she was concerned the effort was too focused on sending clothes instead of essentials like water and electric generators.
"Clothing is wonderful, but let them go naked for a while, at least the kids," said Heinz Kerry, the wife of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry. "Water is necessary, and then generators, and then food, and then clothes."
Heinz Kerry stopped by a market in the heart of Brooklyn's Caribbean community, where she spoke French with Haitian vendors and shook hands with volunteers busy packing food, clothes and other relief supplies to be shipped to several Carribean islands hit by Hurricane Ivan. Her husband's campaign donated water, blankets and first aid kits.
"I think it's important we help all the kids we can," Heinz Kerry said.
Ivan swept through the Caribbean last week, killing more than 60 people and leaving tens of thousands homeless.
Dr. Roy A. Hastick Sr., president of the Caribbean American Chamber of Commerce and coordinator of the market's relief effort, said the visit helped make difficult days a bit brighter.
"It's a major boost for us and the community to show we have someone on a national level concerned with what's happening in the Caribbean region," Hastick Sr. said.
Supporters gathered on the sidewalk shouted "We love you," and "Good luck" as Heinz Kerry made her way to a waiting car.
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So? She's right. Clothing was not the biggest priority they had there.
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I don't think she was actually, literally saying that Caribbean kids should be running around naked, just that food and other stuff should take priority over it. Maybe it wasn't the right way to say it, though.
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The entire quote, plus context, is right there. Now yes, she did say power and water are more important than clothing, that much is clear. However, the comment about letting them "run around naked" was really insensitive and inappropriate on her part and probably would've been better left unsaid.Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote: Another quote taken horribly out of context. She's fucking saying power and water are more important then clothing, not that clothing is bad.
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Well sure, it was a tad on the tactless side---but who gives a shit? It's not like she's running for a political office. Just chuckle at it the way you would chuckle at the latest Bushism.GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:The entire quote, plus context, is right there. Now yes, she did say power and water are more important than clothing, that much is clear. However, the comment about letting them "run around naked" was really insensitive and inappropriate on her part and probably would've been better left unsaid.Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote: Another quote taken horribly out of context. She's fucking saying power and water are more important then clothing, not that clothing is bad.
Aside: I hate the way the media focus on the presidential candidates' wives. They aren't the ones running for president, and I don't think that the families of the candidates should be turned into fucking campaign props.
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Arguably she's something of a prominent public figure, now that her husband is running for president. It's a risk one runs when they choose to run for any prominent public office . . . that is, their families come under intense media scrutiny. It's why Colin Powell absolutely refuses to run for President even though he'd be a far more moderate and effective one than the last few candidates who've run on the Republican ticket.sketerpot wrote:Well sure, it was a tad on the tactless side---but who gives a shit? It's not like she's running for a political office. Just chuckle at it the way you would chuckle at the latest Bushism.GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:The entire quote, plus context, is right there. Now yes, she did say power and water are more important than clothing, that much is clear. However, the comment about letting them "run around naked" was really insensitive and inappropriate on her part and probably would've been better left unsaid.Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote: Another quote taken horribly out of context. She's fucking saying power and water are more important then clothing, not that clothing is bad.
Aside: I hate the way the media focus on the presidential candidates' wives. They aren't the ones running for president, and I don't think that the families of the candidates should be turned into fucking campaign props.
And besides, Heinz-Kerry's comments weren't very funny at all. How would you like it if a hurricane blew your house and everything in it into the next county and some rich person with more money at her personal disposal than your entire state said that you should run around naked for awhile? Some of Bush's more malevolent bushisms aren't so funny either.
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Hey, since people harp over the Bushisms all the time why not do the same here?Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote: Another quote taken horribly out of context. She's fucking saying power and water are more important then clothing, not that clothing is bad.
Of course most people can reason out what she means. It's just more fun to laught at how she said it instead.
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Why are people getting so defensive? What's she done here is make a stupid statement, no matter how innocent, just as Bush does all the time. Only thing is when Bush does it it's fresh meat around here, but when Heinz-Kerry gets caught with an embarrasing quote everyone gets all defensive.
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...except it's not stupid in the least, it's pragmatic and makes a rather obvious point. It's simply not phrased in a politically correct manner, which is hardly surprising considering it wasn't meant to be a soundbite. Hardly comparable to "our enemies never stop trying to harm our nation, and neither do we."
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Hey moron, you believe Bush meant that? I suppose you've never had a slip of tounge? You sit here and cry about Bush's mishaps, yet when Heinz-Kerry slips up, you give her a pass. I don't believe what she said was wrong or bad, just said in the wrong way, it came off wrong.HemlockGrey wrote:...except it's not stupid in the least, it's pragmatic and makes a rather obvious point. It's simply not phrased in a politically correct manner, which is hardly surprising considering it wasn't meant to be a soundbite. Hardly comparable to "our enemies never stop trying to harm our nation, and neither do we."
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Can you hear with that point whooshing past your ears?Hey moron, you believe Bush meant that? I suppose you've never had a slip of tounge? You sit here and cry about Bush's mishaps, yet when Heinz-Kerry slips up, you give her a pass. I don't believe what she said was wrong or bad, just said in the wrong way, it came off wrong.
It's not a stupid quote. Her tongue didn't slip, she didn't bungle her words in a prepared speech and the resulting quote did not express an idea or concept that was unintelligent. It just wasn't phrased in a careful, politically correct manner, and, as I said before, is not remotely comparable to the innumerable Bushisms that our supreme leader has graced us with over the years.
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But this is the problem. You act like Bush's slip ups are horrible, but when Theresa makes a silly statement (you've got to at least call it that) you defend it. Again, I don't believe people should be berating Heinz-Kerry for this, but cripes, don't act like Bush is horrible for screwing up words.HemlockGrey wrote:Can you hear with that point whooshing past your ears?Hey moron, you believe Bush meant that? I suppose you've never had a slip of tounge? You sit here and cry about Bush's mishaps, yet when Heinz-Kerry slips up, you give her a pass. I don't believe what she said was wrong or bad, just said in the wrong way, it came off wrong.
It's not a stupid quote. Her tongue didn't slip, she didn't bungle her words in a prepared speech and the resulting quote did not express an idea or concept that was unintelligent. It just wasn't phrased in a careful, politically correct manner, and, as I said before, is not remotely comparable to the innumerable Bushisms that our supreme leader has graced us with over the years.
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Point being that everyone knew exactly what Bush meant to say, and all the comments about that slip of the tongue are jokes, even though his administration actually has harmed America in various ways (not the least of which are the incessant attacks on civil liberties). Nobody seriously thinks he means what the words literally say. But given what we've seen from the right wing so far, I fully expect them to make an attack on Kerry by taking his wife's words out of context and trying to portray them as immoral and whatnot. And her words were rather innocuous, I remember having run around rather naked when I was a kid, and so did a lot of the other kids during the hot summer days, and it wasn't anything special.Talon Karrde wrote:Hey moron, you believe Bush meant that? I suppose you've never had a slip of tounge? You sit here and cry about Bush's mishaps, yet when Heinz-Kerry slips up, you give her a pass. I don't believe what she said was wrong or bad, just said in the wrong way, it came off wrong.HemlockGrey wrote:...except it's not stupid in the least, it's pragmatic and makes a rather obvious point. It's simply not phrased in a politically correct manner, which is hardly surprising considering it wasn't meant to be a soundbite. Hardly comparable to "our enemies never stop trying to harm our nation, and neither do we."
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It's not silly. Power generators, food, and fresh water is a much bigger priority than the clothing that has been the central focus of the relief effort. Saying that it would be a better idea for people to do without clothing and getting heat and fresh water is hardly silly, it's sensible.Talon Karrde wrote:But this is the problem. You act like Bush's slip ups are horrible, but when Theresa makes a silly statement (you've got to at least call it that) you defend it. Again, I don't believe people should be berating Heinz-Kerry for this, but cripes, don't act like Bush is horrible for screwing up words.
This is just you trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.
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Still not seeing how it's "silly", but please point out where I've acted as if Bush's slipups were "horrible". Maybe "stupid" and "embarrassing to the dignity of the office of the President of the United States," but I have a very strong suspicion you're pulling the rest out of your ass.But this is the problem. You act like Bush's slip ups are horrible, but when Theresa makes a silly statement (you've got to at least call it that) you defend it. Again, I don't believe people should be berating Heinz-Kerry for this, but cripes, don't act like Bush is horrible for screwing up words.
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But it was not a silly statement. At the very worst it can be said that her choice of words could have been more politically correct, that is worlds away from Bush fumbling during a prepared speech and saying something radically diffirent from what he meant to say or invent new words for the English languange.Talon Karrde wrote:But this is the problem. You act like Bush's slip ups are horrible, but when Theresa makes a silly statement (you've got to at least call it that) you defend it. Again, I don't believe people should be berating Heinz-Kerry for this, but cripes, don't act like Bush is horrible for screwing up words.
Besides, she is not a Presidential candidate, her oratory skills, or lack there of, are of no consequence.
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Bush is POTUS, dumbfuck.Stormbringer wrote:Hey, since people harp over the Bushisms all the time why not do the same here?Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote: Another quote taken horribly out of context. She's fucking saying power and water are more important then clothing, not that clothing is bad.
Of course most people can reason out what she means. It's just more fun to laught at how she said it instead.
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Probably because it doesn't make any sense in this context...she's no airhead like Marie.Mayabird wrote:Twenty one posts, and no one has said "Let them eat cake" yet.
I don't know if my thinking that means I'm really cynical today or what.
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Do you want to know what the differance is between this statement and a Bushism... it's simple here the woman may have made a slightly un-pc statement about a sensible list of priorities... Bush the Leader of America can only explain what Tribal soverignty is by using the word soverign a lot.Talon Karrde wrote:But this is the problem. You act like Bush's slip ups are horrible, but when Theresa makes a silly statement (you've got to at least call it that) you defend it. Again, I don't believe people should be berating Heinz-Kerry for this, but cripes, don't act like Bush is horrible for screwing up words.
One was a badly worded sensible list of needs, the other the actions of a primary school pupil. Thats the differance.
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