Different Dark Tide II covers?

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-09-14 01:31am

Something I noticed. Why are there different Dark Tide II covers?

StarWars.com has this picture:
http://www.starwars.com/eu/feature/2000 ... uin_bg.jpg

My cover looks like this:
http://lookinside2-images.amazon.com/Qf ... xvUia3MyhE

Amazon has pics of both covers (the StarWars.com one as the thumbnail, and the other one as the expanded pic).

Why the different covers?

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-09-14 01:32am

Oh, and secondly, what the heck is that thing that encircles half the planet??? I assume that is Ithor, and those glowie dots are the city-ships, but what is that ring?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-09-14 01:33am

The first one is clearly just a cover mockup, since the X-wings are pasted in model shots.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-09-14 01:40am

Ironic, since I seem to see that pic all over the place.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2004-09-14 01:42am

Praxis wrote:Oh, and secondly, what the heck is that thing that encircles half the planet??? I assume that is Ithor, and those glowie dots are the city-ships, but what is that ring?

No, I think that's Hosk Station or something. It was basically a ring around the entire planet.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-09-14 01:48am

Crayz9000 wrote:
Praxis wrote:Oh, and secondly, what the heck is that thing that encircles half the planet??? I assume that is Ithor, and those glowie dots are the city-ships, but what is that ring?
No, I think that's Hosk Station or something. It was basically a ring around the entire planet.

Hosk station wasn't in the book. It was only briefly mentioned in one scene of one of the later books, where it gets nuked.

Hosk station didn't encircle an entire planet, either. The Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels show it as spherical, and if I recall it was attached to a moon, no? (A moon the Vong dropped on its home planet)

The only planets in Dark Tide II that I can recall at the moment are Agamar, Ithor, Garqi and Coruscant. And only Ithor had a massive battle (hence the X-wings). And notice the black spots? Looks like the Vong virus, that was black and spread through the trees rapidly on the surface (the entire planet was a mega-forest), liquifying and blackening everything. Plus the massive explosion in the atmosphere would correspond to the Legacy of Torment when it exploded and ignited the planet's atmosphere.

I'm fairly certain that's Ithor. But what the heck is that ring?

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-09-14 02:19am

I always though it was a Trade Federation ship.

And as for Hosk Station's destruction, it occured at the beginning of Balance Point.

Dark Primus · Post by **Dark Primus** » 2004-09-14 07:06am

JME2 wrote:I always though it was a Trade Federation ship.

That's what I thought too. A very poorly drawn one.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-09-14 12:39pm

LOL, it does look a bit like that, eh? But it obviously has continents and water, and the Trade Federation wasn't even mentioned (this book was before Episode 1, wasn't it? Maybe? I read it so long ago I forgot).

Dartzap · Post by **Dartzap** » 2004-09-14 03:10pm

If it wasnt the wrong book, id have said it was the Jubilee Wheel over Ord Mantall

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2004-09-14 08:51pm

I always assumed it was a Trade Fed ship myself. Taken over or rustic or something. Which they are mentioned in that duology just in a briefing on how the coralskippers work. Btw, Vector Prime IRC came out sometime in '99 same as TPM so, these books would have been sometime after.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-09-15 12:37am

Cal Wright wrote:I always assumed it was a Trade Fed ship myself. Taken over or rustic or something. Which they are mentioned in that duology just in a briefing on how the coralskippers work. Btw, Vector Prime IRC came out sometime in '99 same as TPM so, these books would have been sometime after.

I can't seem to remember Trade Fed ever being mentioned, anywhere, anytime. I just finished re-reading the first book and half the second, too.

But it couldn't possibly be a tradefed ship- look at the water!

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2004-09-15 01:04am

The Ithorians live in giant floating cites. Maybe that's it?

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2004-09-15 01:14am

StormTrooperTR889 wrote:The Ithorians live in giant floating cites. Maybe that's it?

Nope. Way too big.

Personally, I think it may be some kind of giganormous power station, sort of like a Dyson Sphere or ringworld; certainly it's well within the Empire's capability to build some such thing, even more so if it's mostly empty space (less materials consumed).

Was there anything of the sort around any planets in the book? (I don't think so, else you wouldn't need to ask what it was...)

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-09-15 01:59am

Who knows -- maybe the Vong hit Cybertron instead and we're seeing the end result...

Dartzap · Post by **Dartzap** » 2004-09-15 03:49am

Actully, Tade Fed Battle Doids and drone fighters have been mentioned several times during the NJO

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-09-15 03:20pm

Dartzap wrote:Actully, Tade Fed Battle Doids and drone fighters have been mentioned several times during the NJO

...when?
Maybe in an idle conversation, but there was never one in the actual books.

Dartzap · Post by **Dartzap** » 2004-09-15 03:26pm

Thier refferd to in tho8ght mostly, in the early books, as Skips are discribed as being similier in control to a old Trade Fed Droid Fighter

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2004-09-16 06:51pm

I'll have to go dig my books out. I put most of NJO up in storage. I know what was somewhere in Stackpole's duology cuz he's the only author in the series that makes bullshit passages like that.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2004-09-16 07:03pm

According to Stackpole, the giant thing is a left over Trade Federation ship that they used in the novel to sneak the team in

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-09-16 07:21pm

Hmmm, I thought it was the 'World ship' in construction at Seripadipitythshdf (what ever the hell the planet where Chewie died was).

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-09-16 07:51pm

Knife wrote:Hmmm, I thought it was the 'World ship' in construction at Seripadipitythshdf (what ever the hell the planet where Chewie died was).

No, there's obviously a metal ring around it. Additionally, the worldship was shown on the cover of Edge of Victory II.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-09-16 07:53pm

Ender wrote:According to Stackpole, the giant thing is a left over Trade Federation ship that they used in the novel to sneak the team in

Trade Federation ship?
They were on a small infiltration ship that self destructed/broke apart and had an escape pod hidden inside it so the crew members (three jedi and a couple noghri) would survive.

I highly doubt that if they were on a Trade Federation battleship that self destructed- the escape pod inside the ship would have been SMASHED by the debris.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-09-16 08:44pm

Praxis wrote:
No, there's obviously a metal ring around it.

So because its called a 'world ship' it can't have a ring like structure around it, because?

Additionally, the worldship was shown on the cover of Edge of Victory II.

I don't see any ship on the cover of EoV II. Just a skirmy, squidlike thing, that could be a yamosk (sp?) or if a ship, would probably look like the slaver ships that attacked the Duro's stations than a world ship.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-09-16 08:46pm

Knife wrote:
Praxis wrote:
No, there's obviously a metal ring around it.

So because its called a 'world ship' it can't have a ring like structure around it, because?

Additionally, the worldship was shown on the cover of Edge of Victory II.
I don't see any ship on the cover of EoV II. Just a skirmy, squidlike thing, that could be a yamosk (sp?) or if a ship, would probably look like the slaver ships that attacked the Duro's stations than a world ship.

It's the thing in the background; you can also find images of it on the CD included with the TUF hardcover and in the NEGTV/V.