Agent Fisher wrote:so i am safe to enter the system?
As of right now, yes. One of the things you'll notice is that Earth's been burnt to a crispy radioactive green, but yes. The Minmatar haven't shown up yet, and I don't have any (apparent) defenses up besides the battle-stations.
that should provide quite a shocker to my people, and most likely will cause them to really kick into a major military buildup
Rogue 9 wrote:Straha, I know that attacking Earth would be political suicide at the moment, but are you really counting so much on that fact?
The status of Earth as a symbol became irrelevent when he attacked you. This is total war, and it is a legitimate target. The USAAF burned Dresden to ashes and it took years for the public at large to shed a single tear, and even then it was more in the nature of "Ah, it's war, whaddya gonna do?"
The only thing stopping you from launching an assault is the fact that the Sol system is militarily irrelevent. The major industries of Earth were vaporized, the infrastructure is wrecked, and the population is currently huddled in little arcologies... in fact, they're perfect targets. The only thing of relevance about Earth is the fact that it is the capital of Monacora. Other than that it's a money pit that's sucking untold sums of cash out of the Monacoran budget for reconstruction. It would be to your advantage to leave it alone.
"I am gravely disappointed. Again you have made me unleash my dogs of war."
--The Lord Humungus
Rogue 9 wrote:Straha, I know that attacking Earth would be political suicide at the moment, but are you really counting so much on that fact?
No. In fact the way we see it attacking Earth, along with being political suicide, would be strategic suicide because THERE'S NOTHING THERE and putting enough troops there to passify our garrison would be so time and people consuming as to make it pointless for anyone to even try. So we moved most of what we deem better used elsewhere, elsewhere.
Though if you want to try, go ahead.
'After 9/11, it was "You're with us or your with the terrorists." Now its "You're with Straha or you support racism."' ' - The Romulan Republic
'You're a bully putting on an air of civility while saying that everything western and/or capitalistic must be bad, and a lot of other posters (loomer, Stas Bush, Gandalf) are also going along with it for their own personal reasons (Stas in particular is looking through rose colored glasses)' - Darth Yan
Rogue 9 wrote:Straha, I know that attacking Earth would be political suicide at the moment, but are you really counting so much on that fact?
The status of Earth as a symbol became irrelevent when he attacked you. This is total war, and it is a legitimate target.
Actually I would disagree on this. One of the major Propaganda bits against the Nashtar is that they support Genocidal maniacs throughout recent history (the Overseer through the Arcane Empire, the Arcane Empire itself, the occupation of the COG, and now the White Suns,) them returning to Earth to finish up the job would just put icing on the cake.
'After 9/11, it was "You're with us or your with the terrorists." Now its "You're with Straha or you support racism."' ' - The Romulan Republic
'You're a bully putting on an air of civility while saying that everything western and/or capitalistic must be bad, and a lot of other posters (loomer, Stas Bush, Gandalf) are also going along with it for their own personal reasons (Stas in particular is looking through rose colored glasses)' - Darth Yan
Rogue 9 wrote:Straha, I know that attacking Earth would be political suicide at the moment, but are you really counting so much on that fact?
The status of Earth as a symbol became irrelevent when he attacked you. This is total war, and it is a legitimate target.
Actually I would disagree on this. One of the major Propaganda bits against the Nashtar is that they support Genocidal maniacs throughout recent history (the Overseer through the Arcane Empire, the Arcane Empire itself, the occupation of the COG, and now the White Suns,) them returning to Earth to finish up the job would just put icing on the cake.
The occupation of the CoG? News networks were praising my troops' restraint at the time.
Rogue 9 wrote:
The occupation of the CoG? News networks were praising my troops' restraint at the time.
You were occupying the same worlds as the Arcanists... yet you did nothing to try and stop them. If you had the power to stop the concentration camps but did nothing you'd be considered the same way...
'After 9/11, it was "You're with us or your with the terrorists." Now its "You're with Straha or you support racism."' ' - The Romulan Republic
'You're a bully putting on an air of civility while saying that everything western and/or capitalistic must be bad, and a lot of other posters (loomer, Stas Bush, Gandalf) are also going along with it for their own personal reasons (Stas in particular is looking through rose colored glasses)' - Darth Yan
Straha wrote:You were occupying the same worlds as the Arcanists... yet you did nothing to try and stop them. If you had the power to stop the concentration camps but did nothing you'd be considered the same way...
In his defense he did refuse to allow me to "help" him administer those worlds. No matter how bad he did, he can always say: "It coulda been worse!"
"I am gravely disappointed. Again you have made me unleash my dogs of war."
--The Lord Humungus
Straha wrote:You were occupying the same worlds as the Arcanists... yet you did nothing to try and stop them. If you had the power to stop the concentration camps but did nothing you'd be considered the same way...
In his defense he did refuse to allow me to "help" him administer those worlds. No matter how bad he did, he can always say: "It coulda been worse!"
frigidmagi wrote:Excuse me, what fucking concenration camps are you babbling about? I don't remember any in the COG.
It was an analogy. You see if Rogue had been given the power to stop the WWII concentration camps I hope he would have, other wise he would be been a genocidal monster. He didn't even TRY to temper the Arcanists, same deal different era/severity.
'After 9/11, it was "You're with us or your with the terrorists." Now its "You're with Straha or you support racism."' ' - The Romulan Republic
'You're a bully putting on an air of civility while saying that everything western and/or capitalistic must be bad, and a lot of other posters (loomer, Stas Bush, Gandalf) are also going along with it for their own personal reasons (Stas in particular is looking through rose colored glasses)' - Darth Yan
Oh, as a note to everyone I will be launching my sub-capital ship construction shortly. They've been in production now for 5 1/2 months, more than time considering the established average for capital ships is six months. oh and
You see if Rogue had been given the power to stop the WWII concentration camps I hope he would have, other wise he would be been a genocidal monster. He didn't even TRY to temper the Arcanists, same deal different era/severity
I still don't get what the fuck you're talking about. The Arcanist behaved very well in the CoG has far has I remembered, you're going to have to refresh my memory.
You see if Rogue had been given the power to stop the WWII concentration camps I hope he would have, other wise he would be been a genocidal monster. He didn't even TRY to temper the Arcanists, same deal different era/severity
I still don't get what the fuck you're talking about. The Arcanist behaved very well in the CoG has far has I remembered, you're going to have to refresh my memory.
Chain Lightning into a crowd of civilians, with enough force to obliterate several hundred people. Stuff like that.
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You see if Rogue had been given the power to stop the WWII concentration camps I hope he would have, other wise he would be been a genocidal monster. He didn't even TRY to temper the Arcanists, same deal different era/severity
I still don't get what the fuck you're talking about. The Arcanist behaved very well in the CoG has far has I remembered, you're going to have to refresh my memory.
Chain Lightning into a crowd of civilians, with enough force to obliterate several hundred people. Stuff like that.
They werent innocent. That is my official position
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You see if Rogue had been given the power to stop the WWII concentration camps I hope he would have, other wise he would be been a genocidal monster. He didn't even TRY to temper the Arcanists, same deal different era/severity
I still don't get what the fuck you're talking about. The Arcanist behaved very well in the CoG has far has I remembered, you're going to have to refresh my memory.
Mind control, chain lighting, arcane arrows into crowds of civvies, etc., etc., etc.
'After 9/11, it was "You're with us or your with the terrorists." Now its "You're with Straha or you support racism."' ' - The Romulan Republic
'You're a bully putting on an air of civility while saying that everything western and/or capitalistic must be bad, and a lot of other posters (loomer, Stas Bush, Gandalf) are also going along with it for their own personal reasons (Stas in particular is looking through rose colored glasses)' - Darth Yan
frigidmagi wrote:Excuse me, what fucking concenration camps are you babbling about? I don't remember any in the COG.
It was an analogy. You see if Rogue had been given the power to stop the WWII concentration camps I hope he would have, other wise he would be been a genocidal monster. He didn't even TRY to temper the Arcanists, same deal different era/severity.
We gave them stabilityy and freedom, they returned our kindness with terrorism, and murder. Harsh crimes call for harsh punishments
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BOTM/Great Dolphin Conspiracy/ Entomology and Evolutionary Biology Subdirector:SD.net Dept. of Biological Sciences
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frigidmagi wrote:Excuse me, what fucking concenration camps are you babbling about? I don't remember any in the COG.
It was an analogy. You see if Rogue had been given the power to stop the WWII concentration camps I hope he would have, other wise he would be been a genocidal monster. He didn't even TRY to temper the Arcanists, same deal different era/severity.
We gave them stabilityy and freedom, they returned our kindness with terrorism, and murder. Harsh crimes call for harsh punishments
Mind Control=Freedom?
WTF ARE YOU SMOKING?
'After 9/11, it was "You're with us or your with the terrorists." Now its "You're with Straha or you support racism."' ' - The Romulan Republic
'You're a bully putting on an air of civility while saying that everything western and/or capitalistic must be bad, and a lot of other posters (loomer, Stas Bush, Gandalf) are also going along with it for their own personal reasons (Stas in particular is looking through rose colored glasses)' - Darth Yan
You see if Rogue had been given the power to stop the WWII concentration camps I hope he would have, other wise he would be been a genocidal monster. He didn't even TRY to temper the Arcanists, same deal different era/severity
I still don't get what the fuck you're talking about. The Arcanist behaved very well in the CoG has far has I remembered, you're going to have to refresh my memory.
Mind control, chain lighting, arcane arrows into crowds of civvies, etc., etc., etc.
Mind control was for their protection so we ddnt have a bloody conquest
Chain lightning... gotta crack a few eggs... and the arcan arrows were pinpoint target strikes
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Pablo Sanchez wrote:...the population is currently huddled in little arcologies... in fact, they're perfect targets.
So kill an entire planet's population, which sounds a lot like genocide, or fight the monacoran army inside what is essentially a single large building. That means:
1. No air support
2. No armor
Taking an archology would be a very bloody operation, especially considering you have to fight Monacoran armies.
There are 2 extremes. Take it with massive losses, but take it mostly intact, or destroy it completely and get nothing, save a very bad reputation.
that should provide quite a shocker to my people, and most likely will cause them to really kick into a major military buildup
