STGOD 4 OOC Thread (part 2)

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-09-18 12:25am

Agent Fisher wrote:man, this universe is fucked up.....maybe my people should have just stayed in our humble home systems

Yes, it's a very fucked up place. And it's only going to get worse before it gets better. As for hiding, maybe, but it's too late for them to go back. And if anything you've come at a time of nasty warfare. Probably the biggest since the Floater War which ended the prior STGOD in this particular universe.

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2004-09-18 12:27am

Stormbringer wrote:
Agent Fisher wrote:man, this universe is fucked up.....maybe my people should have just stayed in our humble home systems
Yes, it's a very fucked up place. And it's only going to get worse before it gets better. As for hiding, maybe, but it's too late for them to go back. And if anything you've come at a time of nasty warfare. Probably the biggest since the Floater War which ended the prior STGOD in this particular universe.

they could suddenly selfdestruct and no one would ever find out about my worlds.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-09-18 12:28am

Agent Fisher wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:
Agent Fisher wrote:man, this universe is fucked up.....maybe my people should have just stayed in our humble home systems
Yes, it's a very fucked up place. And it's only going to get worse before it gets better. As for hiding, maybe, but it's too late for them to go back. And if anything you've come at a time of nasty warfare. Probably the biggest since the Floater War which ended the prior STGOD in this particular universe.

they could suddenly selfdestruct and no one would ever find out about my worlds.

Except we'd start looking, and we probably already know where your worlds generally are, but not which ones they are exactly, considering the extensive searching we did for the Overseer.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2004-09-18 12:29am

InnocentBystander wrote:There are 2 extremes. Take it with massive losses, but take it mostly intact, or destroy it completely and get nothing, save a very bad reputation.

This is war. The enemy population is a target, especially when their army tries to use them as human shields. I was commenting on the fact that one could effectively depopulate Earth in a matter of minutes, once the planetary shield was down. Is anyone going to do that? Probably not. But if it comes to that point...

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2004-09-18 12:29am

Straha wrote:
Agent Fisher wrote:
Stormbringer wrote: Yes, it's a very fucked up place. And it's only going to get worse before it gets better. As for hiding, maybe, but it's too late for them to go back. And if anything you've come at a time of nasty warfare. Probably the biggest since the Floater War which ended the prior STGOD in this particular universe.

they could suddenly selfdestruct and no one would ever find out about my worlds.
Except we'd start looking, and we probably already know where your worlds generally are, but not which ones they are exactly, considering the extensive searching we did for the Overseer.

did you only look in the circle on the map?

my people are from outside the circle

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-09-18 12:29am

Agent Fisher wrote:they could suddenly selfdestruct and no one would ever find out about my worlds.

True, but where would the fun in that be?

Trust me, it's very rewarding to survive such conflicts and come out on top. I've played several STGODs by now and it's a hell of a lot of fun. If nothing else the intellectual reward is a lot. There's nothing like seeing an enemy broken before you or that of throwing an enemie's plan into total disarray with a few well places jabs.

In short: good STGODing is like crack. Once you've started it's a rush and you just can't quit.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-09-18 12:31am

Agent Fisher wrote: did you only look in the circle on the map?

my people are from outside the circle

You need to read up on the Rape, possibly the single most game changing event. We searched EVERYWHERE in a massive vicinity, not just the 'Inner Sphere,'

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2004-09-18 12:32am

Stormbringer wrote:Trust me, it's very rewarding to survive such conflicts and come out on top. I've played several STGODs by now and it's a hell of a lot of fun. If nothing else the intellectual reward is a lot. There's nothing like seeing an enemy broken before you or that of throwing an enemie's plan into total disarray with a few well places jabs.

of course for every winner there must be a loser. And if I lose i want to go out with one last hurrah

Think the Charge of the Rohan, in RotK. Only this time we die

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2004-09-18 12:32am

Straha wrote:
Agent Fisher wrote: did you only look in the circle on the map?

my people are from outside the circle
You need to read up on the Rape, possibly the single most game changing event. We searched EVERYWHERE in a massive vicinity, not just the 'Inner Sphere,'

could you give me a link to that?

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-09-18 12:38am

Agent Fisher wrote:
Straha wrote:
Agent Fisher wrote: did you only look in the circle on the map?

my people are from outside the circle
You need to read up on the Rape, possibly the single most game changing event. We searched EVERYWHERE in a massive vicinity, not just the 'Inner Sphere,'
could you give me a link to that?

Pages 50 to 60 in the game thread or somewhere around there.

Seriously though, if you want to be a serious active participant you should probably read through as much of the STGOD proper as you can, while keeping track with the OOC thread in a seperate window to see what people were saying at the time. If you can do that you will never have to have a part of the STGOD explained to you again.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2004-09-18 12:44am

Pablo Sanchez wrote:This is war. The enemy population is a target, especially when their army tries to use them as human shields. I was commenting on the fact that one could effectively depopulate Earth in a matter of minutes, once the planetary shield was down. Is anyone going to do that? Probably not. But if it comes to that point...

Certainly true!

As it's been said, who would want earth?

Still, deep down, I want to see someone to fight their way through one.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-09-18 12:45am

Pablo Sanchez wrote:
InnocentBystander wrote:There are 2 extremes. Take it with massive losses, but take it mostly intact, or destroy it completely and get nothing, save a very bad reputation.
This is war. The enemy population is a target, especially when their army tries to use them as human shields. I was commenting on the fact that one could effectively depopulate Earth in a matter of minutes, once the planetary shield was down. Is anyone going to do that? Probably not. But if it comes to that point...

If one's willing to go that far. The fact is massacring civilians under any circumstances is a bad PR move.

Agent Fisher wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:Trust me, it's very rewarding to survive such conflicts and come out on top. I've played several STGODs by now and it's a hell of a lot of fun. If nothing else the intellectual reward is a lot. There's nothing like seeing an enemy broken before you or that of throwing an enemie's plan into total disarray with a few well places jabs.
of course for every winner there must be a loser. And if I lose i want to go out with one last hurrah

Think the Charge of the Rohan, in RotK. Only this time we die

Don't be so damn pessimistic. Right now I'm planning on winning the damn war and then using my superpower status.

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2004-09-18 12:49am

Stormbringer wrote:
Agent Fisher wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:Trust me, it's very rewarding to survive such conflicts and come out on top. I've played several STGODs by now and it's a hell of a lot of fun. If nothing else the intellectual reward is a lot. There's nothing like seeing an enemy broken before you or that of throwing an enemie's plan into total disarray with a few well places jabs.
of course for every winner there must be a loser. And if I lose i want to go out with one last hurrah

Think the Charge of the Rohan, in RotK. Only this time we die
Don't be so damn pessimistic. Right now I'm planning on winning the damn war and then using my superpower status.

I am not planning on going down at all. I figure I am so small and came in right in the middle of a war that i will probally be overlooked. but if i do lose i want to go down like i described.

But first you have to kill me!

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-09-18 12:52am

Agent Fisher wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:
Agent Fisher wrote: of course for every winner there must be a loser. And if I lose i want to go out with one last hurrah

Think the Charge of the Rohan, in RotK. Only this time we die
Don't be so damn pessimistic. Right now I'm planning on winning the damn war and then using my superpower status.
I am not planning on going down at all. I figure I am so small and came in right in the middle of a war that i will probally be overlooked. but if i do lose i want to go down like i described.

But first you have to kill me!

We're not trying to kill you. Unless you do something stupid no one will try and kill you...

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2004-09-18 12:54am

Stormbringer wrote:If one's willing to go that far. The fact is massacring civilians under any circumstances is a bad PR move.

And you know how people who live under free democracies love to voice their opinions...

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2004-09-18 12:58am

Straha wrote:
Agent Fisher wrote:
Stormbringer wrote: Don't be so damn pessimistic. Right now I'm planning on winning the damn war and then using my superpower status.
I am not planning on going down at all. I figure I am so small and came in right in the middle of a war that i will probally be overlooked. but if i do lose i want to go down like i described.

But first you have to kill me!
We're not trying to kill you. Unless you do something stupid no one will try and kill you...

maybe i should have put a smiley at the end of that.

, not really an evil laugh is it?

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-09-18 02:44am

Stormbringer wrote:Don't be so damn pessimistic. Right now I'm planning on winning the damn war and then using my superpower status.

Yes, this would be why he's being pessimistic.

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2004-09-18 12:21pm

Straha wrote:Diaspora ships, fleeing our coming.

what do you mean by that?

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-09-18 12:31pm

Agent Fisher wrote:
Straha wrote:Diaspora ships, fleeing our coming.
what do you mean by that?

Monacora conquered Earth in the 21st and early 22nd Century. Along with providing a neat little back story for my nations reliance on its Army it gave an excuse for there being other nations on Earth (I.E. the Asgard originally, the NAU, the Russkis, etc., etc.) that had little original basis in current nations.

Considering that we had originally (in STGOD 1) established first serious space colonization as around 2400s I would assume that to fit you in to the back-plot you were fleeing the coming conquest of Earth by the Monacoran hordes.

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2004-09-18 12:37pm

Straha wrote:
Agent Fisher wrote:
Straha wrote:Diaspora ships, fleeing our coming.
what do you mean by that?
Monacora conquered Earth in the 21st and early 22nd Century. Along with providing a neat little back story for my nations reliance on its Army it gave an excuse for there being other nations on Earth (I.E. the Asgard originally, the NAU, the Russkis, etc., etc.) that had little original basis in current nations.

Considering that we had originally (in STGOD 1) established first serious space colonization as around 2400s I would assume that to fit you in to the back-plot you were fleeing the coming conquest of Earth by the Monacoran hordes.

Yeah, but my people now considered the trip to be one of fleeing persucution on earth. from earth.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-09-18 04:13pm

And I still don't see how Monaco and Andorra could possibly conqeur anything with the possible exception of France, but whatever.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-09-18 06:01pm

Darksider, in case you've forgotten, they came back within a few hours and you still have to finish that battle before Tycho shows up.

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2004-09-18 06:04pm

What makes you think they aren't there yet?

I called them while I was attacking newport.

The UP had to take time to form the task force and launch it after me (Remember, you didn't follow me outright)

There was an interval while I was hiding behind the moon, the battle itself, and the time it took for the UP forces to jump back to newport, rearm and recive reinforcements, and jump back

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-09-18 06:12pm

Darksider wrote:What makes you think they aren't there yet?

I called them while I was attacking newport.

The UP had to take time to form the task force and launch it after me (Remember, you didn't follow me outright)

There was an interval while I was hiding behind the moon, the battle itself, and the time it took for the UP forces to jump back to newport, rearm and recive reinforcements, and jump back

Because 1.) Tycho said it would take over a day for his forces to get there, 2.) Frigid followed soon thereafter as soon as the task force regrouped, and 3.) Tycho launched his fleet late, after your admiral wondered aloud in the game thread as to where the hell he was. You're in UP territory; they can get to you well before Tycho can. 4.) Just talked this out with Tycho; he himself said he doesn't expect to arrive until after the battle.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-09-18 06:17pm

Rogue, Frigid retreated over that world. Remember? Now, he would need to wheel about and pick up reinforcements, and then launch against Darksider. That would probably take another, oh, 2-3 hours.

Tycho's attack launched the same time Darksider's did, but it's a longer trip. Tycho's vessels were en route when Darksdier's admiral complained about them not being in theatre.

As for this battle you bring up, Darksider is on the run until the reinforcements can arrive, so it's really unimportant. We can safely fast forewards in this theatre until it reaches the point your attack fleet is at- i.e, a day after hostilities open up.