Alex Baldwin's political prediction

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-09-17 11:57am

Last year, I remember Alec Baldwin coming on "The Daily Show" and making his prediction for the 2004 election. "The Democrats will lose big," he said (or words to that effect; my recollection of precise phrases is obviously not perfect), because they have gotten away from their values and are trying to appeal to everyone at once. And this will ultimately be a good thing because it will force them to find their values again and actually stand for something in 2008.

Looks like some of those actors are better students of politics than we give them credit for

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-09-17 12:03pm

I imagine they'll lose and a Bill Clinton-type figure - perhaps Barack Obama - will show up to start revitalizing the party.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-09-17 12:35pm

I like Obama, but I think that he's going to stay in the Senate for a while before running for president. He can do a lot of good in there, and I think he knows that.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2004-09-17 03:36pm

Durandal wrote:I like Obama, but I think that he's going to stay in the Senate for a while before running for president. He can do a lot of good in there, and I think he knows that.

The longer he stays in the senate, the more slime will accumulate on him. Senators don't get elected president, as we're seeing. Why NOT Obama '08? If Kerry goes down in flames, he's going to take a lot of the old guard with him.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2004-09-17 03:48pm

Wasn't there a B5 episode with commentary like that? IIRC, it was in the 5th season so no one probably remembers it.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-09-17 03:50pm

I dunno, but it is much too easy to dismiss actors as being ignorant of politics. They may not be geniuses, but they have a lot of free time on their hands to study this sort of thing if they're motivated; far more than the average Joe with a full-time job, that's for sure.

Of course, their weakness is an inability to relate to that average Joe. They only know about the lifestyle of being either rich or dirt-poor. But that doesn't mean an actor can automatically be assumed to be politically ignorant, the way some people often do.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-09-17 10:18pm

How many of these Baldwins are there!?

Perinquus · Post by **Perinquus** » 2004-09-17 11:30pm

Gandalf wrote:How many of these Baldwins are there!?

I think they breed them on a farm somewhere in New York state.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2004-09-17 11:38pm

Don't tell anybody. There's a secret Democrat actor breeding program. We're trying to build a cadre of beautiful liberals to woo the masses by 2010.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-09-17 11:40pm

As opposed to the liberal cadre you have now?

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-09-17 11:44pm

Gandalf wrote:How many of these Baldwins are there!?

I don't like him, but he's a brillant actor. For politics, he's gotten his wienny smashed for the last decade on it, so I'd imagine that he's got his head out of his ass by now.

He's still extreme in his views, imo.

Perinquus · Post by **Perinquus** » 2004-09-17 11:45pm

Iceberg wrote:Don't tell anybody. There's a secret Democrat actor breeding program. We're trying to build a cadre of beautiful liberals to woo the masses by 2010.

Hmm... It may be working. Didn't I read that Rebecca Romijn-Stamos did an ad for moveon.org?

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2004-09-17 11:49pm

frigidmagi wrote:As opposed to the liberal cadre you have now?

This is before we start work on the pheromone research.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2004-09-17 11:55pm

Hello President Hillary in '08!

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2004-09-18 01:24am

Bullshit. If I don't get President John McCain in 2008, I'm starting a rebellion of one.

Uther · Post by **Uther** » 2004-09-18 01:31am

No, I changed my mind. Bush is GGed. Yeah that's right I'm putting my money on the underdog. You heard it here first, folks.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2004-09-18 11:23am

Knife wrote:
Gandalf wrote:How many of these Baldwins are there!?
I don't like him, but he's a brillant actor. For politics, he's gotten his wienny smashed for the last decade on it, so I'd imagine that he's got his head out of his ass by now.

He's still extreme in his views, imo.

Is he still going to leave the country if Bush gets re-elected?

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2004-09-18 11:28am

McCain Clinton '08

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-09-18 12:52pm

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:
Is he still going to leave the country if Bush gets re-elected?

Seeings how he said he'd leave the country if Bush GOT elected, four years ago, somehow I doubt it.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-09-18 01:58pm

Knife wrote:
Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:
Is he still going to leave the country if Bush gets re-elected?
Seeings how he said he'd leave the country if Bush GOT elected, four years ago, somehow I doubt it.

Yeah. The Pussyboy.

Seriously, I still remember his whining and how fast he changed his tune when Bush really did win.

But seriously, I think this is just a case of even a broken clock being right twice a day. Considering Baldwin's politcal blabbing (but not necessarily his actions) I'd say it's less intelligence and more complaining that the far left fringe is being ignored.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-09-19 12:43am

hey watch it IM running in 2008.....