Uber Connie in SW universe
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Uber Connie in SW universe
I don't know what its capable off but how would it perform if its sucked trough a wormhole in the SW universe?
It'd probably fare better than a Galaxy, in my opinion, if for the simple reason that the TOS crew doesn't spit out peace and love and bongrips every time they meet a hostile alien. However, Kirk would bang some local Moff's wife, and the Moff would send, oh, a Dreadnaught after the Connie - oh, fuck it, we know it's gotta be a Star Destroyer, and we know the Connie's gonna die.
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It's actually probably crappier than a Galaxy, aside from the Gal's tendency to breach its warp core if the captain farts too hard.
However, the Connie Cultists want people to believe that it chucks around gigatons like popcorn and that it can survive all sorts of yadda yadda yadda...
Nah.
It's a giant petri dish for all of Kirk's, uh, "bio-samples"... that he, err... "collects"... when he, uh, ah... "fucks green women". Yeah.
However, the Connie Cultists want people to believe that it chucks around gigatons like popcorn and that it can survive all sorts of yadda yadda yadda...
Nah.
It's a giant petri dish for all of Kirk's, uh, "bio-samples"... that he, err... "collects"... when he, uh, ah... "fucks green women". Yeah.
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The Uber-Connie wins. Why? Character shields.
It'll go like this:
The Death Star appears. The Moff broadcasts, "You'll pay for my wife!", then orders the superlaser fired. The gunner sneezes just as he hits the button, causing it to go off target and miss the Enterprise and instead blow up the Moff's own planet. "Nooo!" He screams. Kirk replies, "Fire torpedoes!" The tiny little torpedoes jet out toward the massive Death Star, and by chance, one of them just HAPPENS to land right in the exhaust port, go straight to the reactor, and explode. The entire Death Star goes up in flames.
If its against a Star Destroyer, it'll be the officer that operates the shield generator that sneezes, just before the Enterprise's torpedoes hit the bridge. Then out of sheer luck, there will be nobody to take over the backup bridge, and all the gunners will be on a coffee break all at once, and the Enterprise destroys the ISD (after half an hour of pounding on the hulk).
It'll go like this:
The Death Star appears. The Moff broadcasts, "You'll pay for my wife!", then orders the superlaser fired. The gunner sneezes just as he hits the button, causing it to go off target and miss the Enterprise and instead blow up the Moff's own planet. "Nooo!" He screams. Kirk replies, "Fire torpedoes!" The tiny little torpedoes jet out toward the massive Death Star, and by chance, one of them just HAPPENS to land right in the exhaust port, go straight to the reactor, and explode. The entire Death Star goes up in flames.
If its against a Star Destroyer, it'll be the officer that operates the shield generator that sneezes, just before the Enterprise's torpedoes hit the bridge. Then out of sheer luck, there will be nobody to take over the backup bridge, and all the gunners will be on a coffee break all at once, and the Enterprise destroys the ISD (after half an hour of pounding on the hulk).
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They didn't. It's that a portion of the Millennium Falcon is visible as the ship explodes.PainRack wrote:Anakin skywalker gets to blow it up again....
(ILM apparently used a model of the Enterprise as part of the debris for the TF battleship)
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Seeing as how the Connie would be destroyed in the first salvo in pretty much any conflict against a SW capital ship, I think that Kirk's more confrontational approach would lower their life expectancy dramatically. Their only chance is if they can pull off the Corbomite maneuver against the imps.SPOOFE wrote:It'd probably fare better than a Galaxy, in my opinion, if for the simple reason that the TOS crew doesn't spit out peace and love and bongrips every time they meet a hostile alien. However, Kirk would bang some local Moff's wife, and the Moff would send, oh, a Dreadnaught after the Connie - oh, fuck it, we know it's gotta be a Star Destroyer, and we know the Connie's gonna die.
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connie wins
I think it all comes down to who has the deepest pockets. Evil Viacom who owns ST has far deeper pockets than lesser evil Lucas and friends. The Evil Viacom buys Lucas arts and forces their wirters to let the Federation win. Its all about the stinking lawyers again.
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The Uber-connie is a joke that was funny until the ICS came out and it got taken seriously by a bunch of sore losers.
Seriously, in the end, consider this - self destructing a Connie (as in, setting off its Am fuel supply) did the equivlent of a little over 97 MT.
Puts some very strict limits there.
Seriously, in the end, consider this - self destructing a Connie (as in, setting off its Am fuel supply) did the equivlent of a little over 97 MT.
Puts some very strict limits there.
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I thought it didn't have it's anti-matter fuel in the Doomsday Machine?
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From what I heard, it was an inside joke equivalent to the ROTJ shoe. Not visible on film at all. Of course, it could be nothing more than an enduring urban legend.Spanky The Dolphin wrote:They didn't. It's that a portion of the Millennium Falcon is visible as the ship explodes.PainRack wrote:Anakin skywalker gets to blow it up again....
(ILM apparently used a model of the Enterprise as part of the debris for the TF battleship)
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Quite right you are. I can't explain the "science" but the anti matter was deactivated by the Doomsday weapon. You'll remember the fuel problems the Enterprise had? That's because they had to use the fusion reactors for power. The other Connie could not have suffered a warp core breach, Ender is forgetting his details.Vympel wrote:I thought it didn't have it's anti-matter fuel in the Doomsday Machine?
Blow me.The Silence and I wrote:Quite right you are. I can't explain the "science" but the anti matter was deactivated by the Doomsday weapon. You'll remember the fuel problems the Enterprise had? That's because they had to use the fusion reactors for power. The other Connie could not have suffered a warp core breach, Ender is forgetting his details.Vympel wrote:I thought it didn't have it's anti-matter fuel in the Doomsday Machine?
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Technicaly the Uber Connie the the TOS constitution using the highest end calculations available. This vehicle will utterly stomp SW due to Gene's liberal use of numbers in a few TOS episodes.
The Uber Connie is not taken into consideration with Trek continuity thus saying its weaker then a GCS is incorrect, also meaningless.
Now remember, this is using the highest TOS calcs that exist. Is this rational? Hell no. The Uber Connie is nothing more then a joke and no one takes it seriously.
The Uber Connie is not taken into consideration with Trek continuity thus saying its weaker then a GCS is incorrect, also meaningless.
Now remember, this is using the highest TOS calcs that exist. Is this rational? Hell no. The Uber Connie is nothing more then a joke and no one takes it seriously.
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Scotty once read the decible rating of a sonic disrupter weapon striking the hull of the ship. Such a weapon is insane, but Scotty actualy read off the DB rating of what hit the ship. IIRC it was ten times the power of the DS super laser.Techno_Union wrote:What is the highest calcs for the uber Conninie? I have never seen them.
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And before anyone says thats absurd, unrealistic, violates coninutity, and just plain stupid.
Yes, I know that. As I already said, the Uber Connie is a joke. But if you want to debate with it, there you go. Kinda like pitting the Care Bears vs a regiment of Storm Troopers.
Yes, I know that. As I already said, the Uber Connie is a joke. But if you want to debate with it, there you go. Kinda like pitting the Care Bears vs a regiment of Storm Troopers.
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Alyeska wrote:Scotty once read the decible rating of a sonic disrupter weapon striking the hull of the ship. Such a weapon is insane, but Scotty actualy read off the DB rating of what hit the ship. IIRC it was ten times the power of the DS super laser.Techno_Union wrote:What is the highest calcs for the uber Conninie? I have never seen them.
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How can a sound wave travel through space?Alyeska wrote:Scotty once read the decible rating of a sonic disrupter weapon striking the hull of the ship. Such a weapon is insane, but Scotty actualy read off the DB rating of what hit the ship. IIRC it was ten times the power of the DS super laser.Techno_Union wrote:What is the highest calcs for the uber Conninie? I have never seen them.
As I said, it makes no sense.Praxis wrote:How can a sound wave travel through space?Alyeska wrote:Scotty once read the decible rating of a sonic disrupter weapon striking the hull of the ship. Such a weapon is insane, but Scotty actualy read off the DB rating of what hit the ship. IIRC it was ten times the power of the DS super laser.Techno_Union wrote:What is the highest calcs for the uber Conninie? I have never seen them.
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