Another Day, Another Beheading

[Master of Ossus]

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt. I obviously don't agree with that sentiment.

Of course, but that doesn't necessitate nuclear bombings of the Middle East which was my point.

True.

The Germens are not confronted with the shit end of our global politics every single day as many in the Middle East are.

So? Americans are constantly confronted with the shit-end of the Middle East, but you revoked an American ability to desire death to Muslims.

In any case, it doesn't change the fact that the entire region doesn't deserve indiscriminate death.

I agree.

[The Kernel]

So? Americans are constantly confronted with the shit-end of the Middle East, but you revoked an American ability to desire death to Muslims.

I didn't revoke shit. I think people in the Middle East who want the entire United States to go up in flames are just as big of idiots as those here who do it.

[Master of Ossus]

I didn't revoke shit. I think people in the Middle East who want the entire United States to go up in flames are just as big of idiots as those here who do it.

Uh... okay, then. Carry on.

[aerius]

There is nothing the Islamic world could do that would justify fucking genocide. If mass murder is Western civilization's only self-defense, then it fucking DESERVES TO DIE.

By that logic, if a guy is trying to stab me to death and my only way of stopping him is to blow head off with .50AE, then I deserve to be stabbed to death.

Sorry, but if the Islamo-fuckers decide that destroying western civilization brings them closer to Allah, I will be glad to see them helped on their way to Allah with a magic carpet ride courtesy of the Shep Solution.

[Durandal]

No, I'm saying (in an extreme way) why the fuck should we care for them, if they don't care about us? Freedom of speech is a good thing, but only if the other side is willing to accept it and live with it.

Because they're human beings, you fucking genocidal maniac.

Most of them just don't care about this, and want to continue with their old ways, which usually consists in strolling around with high-explosives strapped to the chest.

Yes, every Middle Easterner strolls around with bombs strapped to their chests.

I know that. It still doesn't prevent those that can from condemning these "situations" and at least show that there are other ways...

What fucking world are you living in? After September 11th, we had a litany of Islamic apologists coming out and talking about how "Islam [was] a religion of peace" and other such nonsense to try and pretend that what they did wasn't justifiable by the Qur'an.

As long as "America" is used as an escape goat, they will continue to accept the status-quo and live on with the needless killings, after all, every white is an american and deserves to dia, is it not?

So those people shed no tears when citizens of the nation that funds their oppressors die; I wasn't aware that they were obligated to. Don't you get it? They see us as cultural invaders. We invaded a sovereign, Muslim nation that wasn't a threat to anyone on shaky grounds, and now we're trying to Westernize it. In other words, we're destroying their heritage. And these people are supposed to feel sorry for us? Maybe the American Indians should've cried rivers when American settlers died trying to encroach on their territory, too.

[Admiral Valdemar]

Although it could be argued we can't make them any more hostile towards our society, you do all realise that the Shep Solution will essentially make this "jihad" very much real in the classical sense and unite the Middle-East in acts against us. It won't be a basic terrorist cell lying low most the time and backed by the odd fundie entrepeneur, it will be nations gunning up or supporting full blown guerilla actions.

I don't know about you, but I'm not quite ready for another Crusade. Especially one in the age of atomic, biological and chemical weaponry.

[RadiO]

By that logic, if a guy is trying to stab me to death and my only way of stopping him is to blow head off with .50AE, then I deserve to be stabbed to death.

For this analogy to be true to the Shep Solution, your "only" way of stopping the guy would be to level his entire neighbourhood and everybody in it with a B61. I'd try something else first.

Sorry, but if the Islamo-fuckers decide that destroying western civilization brings them closer to Allah, I will be glad to see them helped on their way to Allah with a magic carpet ride courtesy of the Shep Solution.

Great. We stopped (say) 700,000 Islamic terrorists from attempting to destroy Western civilisation and kill our innocents - by a massively disproportionate response that would butcher millions of civilians indescriminately in their beds and render an entire region uninhabitable for years. Good job all Ragheads are wrong'uns on a genetic level, because otherwise we might have had some kind of moral qualm over the whole deal.
And all this for national defence, too. Not for oil, or geo-political dick-waving. No, for the purest of motives we'd commit genocide on an unprecedented scale, at vast expense, to keep ourselves safe - from a bunch of ill-educated mooks with nothing but firearms, bombs, the horrific will to use both with total amorality, and yet who can blend in with the population seemingly at will.
Of course, afterwards we'd have to have a state-organised pogrom against American Arabs and Muslims to prevent this; how else would we keep an evil Fifth Column from wreaking havoc from within? Heck, the people might be holding a grudge against us. For some reason.
And once they're safely dead or locked up for good, we can get on with our good, wholesome, innocent lives, in peace.

[Lord Poe]

My non-Genocidal solution: Point 3 ICBMs at Mecca, and declare that Mecca stands as long as not one more American target is destroyerd or not one more American is beheaded.

[Morilore]

If it comes down to the Middle East going up in mushroom clouds or Sharia for the west, I'll take the former. But we're not there yet.

It won't come to that. In order for Sharia to take control of Western civilization, a disproportionate percentage of Westerners would have to support it. If 90% of the Middle East was composed of secularists and moderate Muslims, then I sincerely doubt we'd have so many Fundycrat regimes, and the terrorist organizations would probably be as unpopular as neonazis in America. You can't impose an alien cultural system upon an intransigent populace. For long, anyway. Indeed, its far more likely that our own Fundycrats will take over, and that can't exactly be solved with nuclear weapons. In other words, if it DID come to the situation described above, we'd all be screwed anyway.

I sense some overtones of "my belief system and cultural values are more important than human life" in some of the responses here. Yes, I know valuing human life is an artifact of your belief system, don't yell at me.

[Jean Paul]

I'm so done with hearing about the "religion of peace"!! Definitely time for another Crusaaaaaade!!!!! We didn't ask for it, we didn't start it, but we sure as hell are capable of finishing it.

[Stravo]

My non-Genocidal solution: Point 3 ICBMs at Mecca, and declare that Mecca stands as long as not one more American target is destroyerd or not one more American is beheaded.

So should Rome be nuked if there are any more abortion clinic bombings?

It's easy to say "Nuke 'em all." but this is not a simple problem with simple solutions. Punishing an entire population just because we can only makes us look worse, proves the US is the great Satan and turns what used to be a small portion of the muslim population into two billion screaming muslims out for American blood, You think we have it bad now??