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Iran begins enriching Uranium
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Iran Defies U.N. Nuclear Watchdog
By GEORGE JAHN
Associated Press Writer
VIENNA, Austria (AP) -- Shrugging off an ultimatum from the U.N. nuclear agency, Iran revealed Tuesday that it started converting tons of raw uranium as part of a process that could be used to make nuclear arms.
The International Atomic Energy Agency's 35-nation board of governors unanimously adopted a resolution Saturday demanding that Iran freeze all uranium enrichment - including conversion - and warned it faced being taken before the U.N. Security Council, which could impose sanctions.
Describing his country as a victim of "pressures imposed by the United States," Iranian Vice President Reza Aghazadeh said that of the more than 40 tons of uranium being mined for enrichment "some (already) has been used."
Enrichment can be used to produce uranium for generating electricity or to create highly processed uranium needed to make nuclear bombs.
Iran insists its aims are peaceful, and President Mohammad Khatami suggested his country would not bargain on enrichment. He said Iran was determined to exercise its right to peaceful nuclear technology - even at the risk of severing ties with the IAEA, thereby removing all international oversight.
"We will continue along our path even if it leads to an end to international supervision" of Iran's nuclear activities, Khatami said at a military parade in Tehran.
Iran is not prohibited from enrichment under its obligations to the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty. But for months, it has faced international pressure to suspend such activities as a good-faith gesture.
A State Department spokesman said there was "no peaceful justification" for Iran's conversion of raw uranium into nuclear weapons ingredients.
"Iran is continuing its unrelenting drive to make nuclear weapons" and its defiance should come as no surprise, said spokesman Kurtis Cooper, who was with Secretary of State Colin Powell in New York for U.N. meetings.
Suspicions that the Iranian government might be striving to produce atomic weapons have risen since it was revealed almost two years ago that it had run a clandestine enrichment program for 18 years.
In announcing that his country had started conversion into uranium hexafluoride gas, Aghazadeh said the U.S.-led international pressure was meant to deny Iran access to nonmilitary nuclear technology.
"Tests are going on successfully" to make uranium hexafluoride gas, Aghazadeh said.
IAEA spokeswoman Melissa Fleming said the agency had been "notified for some time about the conversion test" and was monitoring activities at Iran's Isfahan site. She said, however, that IAEA head Mohamed ElBaradei "continues to call on Iran, as did the board, to suspend such a test as part of their confidence-building measures."
Aghazadeh did not detail the stage of conversion, or the amounts involved.
A senior diplomat familiar with Iran's nuclear activities, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told The Associated Press that Iran apparently began conversion in late August but had stopped at a precursor of uranium hexafluoride.
He suggested the pause could be linked to indecision within Iran's leadership on whether to defy the IAEA board or give in and freeze all enrichment-related activities, including conversion.
Aghazadeh suggested Iran's course remained open, saying his government "will decide on the basis of our national interests" what to do.
Even before the comments by Aghazadeh, the large scale of Iran's project had heightened concerns that it was preparing for full uranium conversion at its Isfahan facility, going beyond laboratory testing.
The resolution passed Saturday by the IAEA's governing board demanded that Iran freeze all work on uranium enrichment. It specifically expressed alarm at the conversion plans involving the more than 40 tons of raw uranium.
Converted into uranium hexafluoride and repeatedly spun in centrifuges, more than 40 tons of raw uranium could yield more than 200 pounds of highly enriched, weapons-grade uranium. Experts say that would be enough for five crude nuclear weapons.
The IAEA resolution, suggesting Iran may have to answer to the U.N. Security Council if it defied the demands, said the next board meeting, in November, would "decide whether or not further steps are appropriate" in ensuring Iran complied.
Iran says it is stopping short of enrichment. But the resolution also calls for a halt of related activities, including making, assembling and testing centrifuges - and producing uranium hexafluoride.
The resolution also recognized that nations have a right to the peaceful use of nuclear energy.
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I think Syria knows which way the bread is buttered and is withdrawing from
lebanon so they don't give us an excuse to put them on our hitlist
if Bush is re-elected...now Iran on the other hand, they're just ASKING
for it.
Iran Defies U.N. Nuclear Watchdog
By GEORGE JAHN
Associated Press Writer
VIENNA, Austria (AP) -- Shrugging off an ultimatum from the U.N. nuclear agency, Iran revealed Tuesday that it started converting tons of raw uranium as part of a process that could be used to make nuclear arms.
The International Atomic Energy Agency's 35-nation board of governors unanimously adopted a resolution Saturday demanding that Iran freeze all uranium enrichment - including conversion - and warned it faced being taken before the U.N. Security Council, which could impose sanctions.
Describing his country as a victim of "pressures imposed by the United States," Iranian Vice President Reza Aghazadeh said that of the more than 40 tons of uranium being mined for enrichment "some (already) has been used."
Enrichment can be used to produce uranium for generating electricity or to create highly processed uranium needed to make nuclear bombs.
Iran insists its aims are peaceful, and President Mohammad Khatami suggested his country would not bargain on enrichment. He said Iran was determined to exercise its right to peaceful nuclear technology - even at the risk of severing ties with the IAEA, thereby removing all international oversight.
"We will continue along our path even if it leads to an end to international supervision" of Iran's nuclear activities, Khatami said at a military parade in Tehran.
Iran is not prohibited from enrichment under its obligations to the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty. But for months, it has faced international pressure to suspend such activities as a good-faith gesture.
A State Department spokesman said there was "no peaceful justification" for Iran's conversion of raw uranium into nuclear weapons ingredients.
"Iran is continuing its unrelenting drive to make nuclear weapons" and its defiance should come as no surprise, said spokesman Kurtis Cooper, who was with Secretary of State Colin Powell in New York for U.N. meetings.
Suspicions that the Iranian government might be striving to produce atomic weapons have risen since it was revealed almost two years ago that it had run a clandestine enrichment program for 18 years.
In announcing that his country had started conversion into uranium hexafluoride gas, Aghazadeh said the U.S.-led international pressure was meant to deny Iran access to nonmilitary nuclear technology.
"Tests are going on successfully" to make uranium hexafluoride gas, Aghazadeh said.
IAEA spokeswoman Melissa Fleming said the agency had been "notified for some time about the conversion test" and was monitoring activities at Iran's Isfahan site. She said, however, that IAEA head Mohamed ElBaradei "continues to call on Iran, as did the board, to suspend such a test as part of their confidence-building measures."
Aghazadeh did not detail the stage of conversion, or the amounts involved.
A senior diplomat familiar with Iran's nuclear activities, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told The Associated Press that Iran apparently began conversion in late August but had stopped at a precursor of uranium hexafluoride.
He suggested the pause could be linked to indecision within Iran's leadership on whether to defy the IAEA board or give in and freeze all enrichment-related activities, including conversion.
Aghazadeh suggested Iran's course remained open, saying his government "will decide on the basis of our national interests" what to do.
Even before the comments by Aghazadeh, the large scale of Iran's project had heightened concerns that it was preparing for full uranium conversion at its Isfahan facility, going beyond laboratory testing.
The resolution passed Saturday by the IAEA's governing board demanded that Iran freeze all work on uranium enrichment. It specifically expressed alarm at the conversion plans involving the more than 40 tons of raw uranium.
Converted into uranium hexafluoride and repeatedly spun in centrifuges, more than 40 tons of raw uranium could yield more than 200 pounds of highly enriched, weapons-grade uranium. Experts say that would be enough for five crude nuclear weapons.
The IAEA resolution, suggesting Iran may have to answer to the U.N. Security Council if it defied the demands, said the next board meeting, in November, would "decide whether or not further steps are appropriate" in ensuring Iran complied.
Iran says it is stopping short of enrichment. But the resolution also calls for a halt of related activities, including making, assembling and testing centrifuges - and producing uranium hexafluoride.
The resolution also recognized that nations have a right to the peaceful use of nuclear energy.
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I think Syria knows which way the bread is buttered and is withdrawing from
lebanon so they don't give us an excuse to put them on our hitlist
if Bush is re-elected...now Iran on the other hand, they're just ASKING
for it.
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I doubt they're going to get the chance. I think, instead, that Israel is going to get condemned for blowing up someone's nuclear facilities again.Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Why do I get the feeling someone's gonna test a nuke soon?
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Indeed. America isn't the only one who takes unilateral action.Beowulf wrote:I doubt they're going to get the chance. I think, instead, that Israel is going to get condemned for blowing up someone's nuclear facilities again.Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Why do I get the feeling someone's gonna test a nuke soon?
This is gonna get ugly...
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That way, too, what needs to get done gets done without us soiling our hands.CaptainChewbacca wrote:Indeed. America isn't the only one who takes unilateral action.Beowulf wrote:I doubt they're going to get the chance. I think, instead, that Israel is going to get condemned for blowing up someone's nuclear facilities again.Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Why do I get the feeling someone's gonna test a nuke soon?
This is gonna get ugly...
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Or rather, there will be a motion to condemn it, but it will get vetoed by the US, just like all the other motions telling israel to respect international law, human rights, etc.Beowulf wrote:I doubt they're going to get the chance. I think, instead, that Israel is going to get condemned for blowing up someone's nuclear facilities again.
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What, you think blasting Osiraq to smithereens was the wrong course of action? Preventing one's sworn enemies from obtaining nuclear arms with which to end your existence is hardly a human rights violation.GySgt. Hartman wrote:Or rather, there will be a motion to condemn it, but it will get vetoed by the US, just like all the other motions telling israel to respect international law, human rights, etc.Beowulf wrote:I doubt they're going to get the chance. I think, instead, that Israel is going to get condemned for blowing up someone's nuclear facilities again.
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It wasn't, in hindsight, but when Israel bombed Osiraq in 1981, the world reaction was almost universally negative- including the United States. See the article below:Rogue 9 wrote:What, you think blasting Osiraq to smithereens was the wrong course of action? Preventing one's sworn enemies from obtaining nuclear arms with which to end your existence is hardly a human rights violation.GySgt. Hartman wrote:Or rather, there will be a motion to condemn it, but it will get vetoed by the US, just like all the other motions telling israel to respect international law, human rights, etc.Beowulf wrote:I doubt they're going to get the chance. I think, instead, that Israel is going to get condemned for blowing up someone's nuclear facilities again.
http://www.wanniski.com/showarticle.asp?articleid=3595
Here's an example:
Note, too, that this was in the Reagan administration.World opinion was all but unanimous in its outrage, and American opinion too. The New York Times editorialized that "Israel's sneak attack on a French-built nuclear reactor near Baghdad was an act of inexcusable and short-sighted aggression." Time magazine fretted that "Israel has vastly compounded the difficulties of procuring a peaceful settlement of the confrontation in the Middle East." The U.S. secretary of state called the raid "reckless." The U.S. ambassador to the U.N. said it was "shocking" and approved a U.N. resolution demanding that Israel make "appropriate redress" to Iraq.
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No likes a mullah with a nuke. Israel may be responsible for a large share of its problems with the Palestinians, but I'm not going to condemn them for taking out Iran's nuclear facilities.
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Yes it was, actually. Osiraq was a shitty little research reactor with no capacity to assist in the production of nuclear weapons in any meaningful timeframe (i.e. just using that it would've taken decades, IIRC)- it's destruction marked the beginning of Saddam's push for nukes in earnest, according to one of Iraq's nuke scientists.What, you think blasting Osiraq to smithereens was the wrong course of action? Preventing one's sworn enemies from obtaining nuclear arms with which to end your existence is hardly a human rights violation.
It's good for Israel that the lack of education about nukes means that the public perception anything with the word "nuclear" in it must be a critical component to getting nuclear arms.
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Assuming that post production they don't jacket it with DU. The only reason Osiraq was assumed not to produce large amounts of plutonium was that it would operate with 93% enriched fuel, and even then I think it was about 5-10 years to get critical mass.Yes it was, actually. Osiraq was a shitty little research reactor with no capacity to assist in the production of nuclear weapons in any meaningful timeframe (i.e. just using that it would've taken decades, IIRC)- it's destruction marked the beginning of Saddam's push for nukes in earnest, according to one of Iraq's nuke scientists.
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So what do you believe should be done, then? Actively go after it?Axis Kast wrote:If Israel strikes at Iran, the United States will still take the heat.
There's no way we'd escape finger-pointing for having let the Israelis violate Iraqi air space en route to their targets. The world will know. And it'll be as if we'd done it anyway.
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Yes, I do think a limitated air campaign with the objective of destroying as much of Iran's nuclear infrastructure as practicable would be a good idea.So what do you believe should be done, then? Actively go after it?
Of course, on the other side of the coin, even if you disagree with me, my point about Israel still holds true: the logistic hurdles that we'd have to move out of the way for the Israelis to do the deed themselves would implicate us anyway.
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