Then new Yavin,

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-09-23 09:23pm

Looks like crap. Just finished Ep IV, and when the rebel squadrons do their Yavin flyby, the new CGI Yavin looks terrible.

That, and Kenobi's new Kyrat dragon call, sucks.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-09-23 09:25pm

They changed Yavin?

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2004-09-23 09:29pm

I second the shitty Krayt dragon call. It blows donkey balls. What the hell was wrong with the old one?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-09-23 09:31pm

Because it was basically a reuse of the Dewback sound.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-09-24 12:02am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:They changed Yavin?

Its SOOOOOOOOOOOO CGI.

On that note, so is the rust splotches on the Sand Crawler.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-09-24 12:07am

You mean they changed it again?

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-09-24 12:13am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:You mean they changed it again?

Yavin or the sandcrawler? The mid-new scene in the SE with the CGI sandcrawler, has new oragne splotches of rust or wear and tear, on it. Its the scene with the sandcrawler coming up and over a dune, as it goes to the Lars family farm.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-09-24 12:14am

Yavin. It sounds like you're bitching about something that's seven years old.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-09-24 12:19am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Yavin. It sounds like you're bitching about something that's seven years old.

I don't remember the SE Yavin in the flyby looking so CGI. I'll have to plot in the tape tommarrow, but watching it today on the DVD, it jumped out and said "Hey look at me, don't I look fake!"

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-09-24 12:22am

Oh, and while I'm thinking of it, the new Jabba is better, but I don't think he should be so green.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2004-09-24 12:23am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Yavin. It sounds like you're bitching about something that's seven years old.

If I started bitching it definately would be.

I haven't seen ESB and RotJ SE before and it's been 7 years since I saw the ANH:SE. Lots and lots of stuff that didn't need to be fucked with, and far too much of it screams fake.

It does look like they did a good job cleaning up effects, mat lines etc... I was glad to see the Rancor looking a little less...flat.

RotJ does look odd with the changed bit at Jabba's palace and all the added celebration scenes at the end. If it weren't for this thread I wouldn't have known that one of the places celebrating was Yavin (why the Empire didn't come back and smoke the place out of spite...?). I was getting lost because they were showing so many different places celebrating.

I also thought the insertion of Hayden Christensan as Anakin's spirit made it seem even more like he got off easy for all that he did as Vader.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-09-24 12:25am

Huh? Yavin's not in the celebration montage at the end of RotJ.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2004-09-24 12:27am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Huh? Yavin's not in the celebration montage at the end of RotJ.

Well that's good then, 'cause that means I didn't miss it.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-09-24 12:29am

Tsyroc wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Huh? Yavin's not in the celebration montage at the end of RotJ.
Well that's good then, 'cause that means I didn't miss it.

They put a red glow in for Yavin, when the Xwings took off from the rebel base. I kind of liked that one.

But the CGI Yavin they used for the Falcon flyby to Yavin IV and the Yavin they used for the Xwing flyby, sucks.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-09-24 12:45am

Can we post images, please?

Utsanomiko · Post by **Utsanomiko** » 2004-09-24 12:58am

I've got a strange feeling this is more 'I don't remeber what's new in the films and what isn't, so I'll complain about whatever looks odd now that I can see it on DVD' jumps to conclusions like a couple of statements I've seen in the last few days. I didn't notice any difference from the '97 SE, and I saw it maybe 3 months ago.

Icehawk · Post by **Icehawk** » 2004-09-24 01:18am

Hm, it looks fine to me.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-09-24 02:08am

CGI Yavin (in the two fly-bys, and the atmospheric shot with obscuring clouds) has been there ever since ´97, get a decent pair of glasses.

And, yes, I think it looks good.

The Sandcrawler going over the dune is not CGI, it is the same fucking model they used originally. They just filmed it up close so it looks alot bigger.

Wow, some people can´t tell the difference between CGI and modelwork, color me surprised...

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2004-09-24 02:11am

Icehawk wrote:Hm, it looks fine to me.

It looks fine to me also. It seems as if people complains about CG Yavin just because they know it's CG. The "new" sandcrawler isn't CG, since modelbuilder Lorne Peterson (who also worked on all the three original movies) said in a Hyperspace chat that he worked on the SE shot of the sand crawler.

EDIT: You beat me to it, VT-16.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-09-24 02:12am

I really don't know if the new sandcrawler shot is CG, since modelbuilder Lorne Peterson (who also worked on all the three original movies) said in a Hyperspace chat that he worked on the SE shot of the sand crawler.

Read. My. Online. Lips: It is a real, tangible MODEL.

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2004-09-24 02:16am

VT-16 wrote:
I really don't know if the new sandcrawler shot is CG, since modelbuilder Lorne Peterson (who also worked on all the three original movies) said in a Hyperspace chat that he worked on the SE shot of the sand crawler.
Read. My. Online. Lips: It is a real, tangible MODEL.

That was just what I said in my post, wasn't it?!

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-09-24 02:23am

Yep, but I just felt the need to repeat my stance, just in-case the "I know CGI when I see it"-crowd look past my earlier statement. And you were being a bit vague. People jump all over statements that are vague. Sorry if it looked like I was directing it at you.

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2004-09-24 02:52am

VT-16 wrote:Yep, but I just felt the need to repeat my stance, just in-case the "I know CGI when I see it"-crowd look past my earlier statement. And you were being a bit vague. People jump all over statements that are vague. Sorry if it looked like I was directing it at you.

It's cool. I've edited my post to make it less vague.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-09-24 02:57am

Funny thing, I watched a clip from the O-OT the other day, and the take-off scene in IV has a huge, red blob that´s supposed to be Yavin as seen from Yavin IV. If people think this is somehow more realistic than either the Yavin obscured by clouds or CG Yavin in space, who am I to shatter their dreams...

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-09-24 03:04am

It surprises me how a lot of people havent seen the SE often and forget what's new and what isn't. Yavin doesn't look fake at all IMO. I've seen the SE more than the originals- I wager. I still know what changes were made and where, though.