Then new Yavin,

Mlenk · Post by **Mlenk** » 2004-09-24 03:09am

I don't even own the SE's on VHS. Only the originals. The only time I've seen the SE's were a couple times at a friends house.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-09-24 03:31am

Your oriiginals must be relics by now- the first time I ever bought the originals (legit copies, not taped from TV) was the THX version, then the SE. I never went back to THX after the SE- the deterioration was really obvious on my THX tapes, and now on my SE tapes. Now I have DVDs that will last me till the new format release in a couple of years. Not to mention that there's other stuff on those DVDs that they probably will not release on the new format, e.g. the Empire of Dreams doco. I just don't get all the whinging. I can't bring myself to get that worked up about it- some changes suck, fine, but I just can't understand the vitriol. It's still SW and it's still awesome.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-09-24 03:32am

Rose-coloured glasses.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2004-09-24 03:50am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Because it was basically a reuse of the Dewback sound.

Y'know, just ignoring that we KNOW it's a Kraytr dragon call, maybe it being a Dewback call wouldn't have been that odd.

After all, who do we see riding Dewbacks in ANH? Stormtroopers! The Empire's finest! The guys who shoot so accurately you can tell just by looking at their handywork! Etc.

So the Tuskens think they hear a Dewback, boom... Impies coming, run!

Otherwise, yeah, unless the two creatures sound similar and Tuskens can just tell the difference (but not realize it's a guy imitating the call)...

Still, for all we know Kraytr dragons sound like whooping birds. It doesn't sound that scary, so not knowing the backstory, we just make up our own explanation...

I'm trying to think about it from the POV of someone watching it for the first time here, oh well.

PS: After hearing all the complaints about the sound guy hogging the mic on the commentaries about the sound, I bet he says something about this (I hope). Forgive me, but I haven't listened to the commentaries yet!

generator_g1 · Post by **generator_g1** » 2004-09-24 03:56am

Tsyroc wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Huh? Yavin's not in the celebration montage at the end of RotJ.
Well that's good then, 'cause that means I didn't miss it.

The celebration montage showed:

1. Tatooine
2. Bespin
3. Coruscant

then the celebrations on Endor......

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-09-24 03:58am

No, it shows Naboo between Bespin and Coruscant.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-09-24 04:12am

The new "Krayt call" sounds more "alien" and unsettling than the original, like you really don´t know what to expect coming over that hill, which makes it better IMHO.

The celebration montage showed:

1. Tatooine
2. Bespin
3. Coruscant

1.Bespin
2.Tatooine
3.Naboo
4.Coruscant

I think.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-09-24 04:14am

Bah, you're right. It's 3 AM and the last time I saw the clip was back in July.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-09-24 06:44pm

Bah, I conceed the point. Just pooped in the SE tape and Yavin and the Sandcrawler are SE additions. Still suck over the original though.

They Did put in the red glow of Yavin when the X wings take off, though, for the DVD.

Executor32 · Post by **Executor32** » 2004-09-24 07:49pm

Knife wrote:Bah, I conceed the point. Just pooped in the SE tape and Yavin and the Sandcrawler are SE additions. Still suck over the original though.

They Did put in the red glow of Yavin when the X wings take off, though, for the DVD.

You shouldn't treat your tapes like that. How are you going to get the smell out, now?

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2004-09-24 07:54pm

Kurgan wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Because it was basically a reuse of the Dewback sound.
Y'know, just ignoring that we KNOW it's a Kraytr dragon call, maybe it being a Dewback call wouldn't have been that odd.

Actually, when I first watched the movie, I had no clue what the hell that was supposed to be.

It wasn't until someone told me that it was him faking a dragon call that I figured out that he was making a noise to scare off the raiders.

Wild Karrde · Post by **Wild Karrde** » 2004-09-24 08:22pm

Yavin on takeoff

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-09-27 03:43am

Knife wrote:Just pooped in the SE tape

Ick...

DoctorPhanan · Post by **DoctorPhanan** » 2004-09-27 03:59am

Maybe its just my crappy X-Box, or fullscreen version DVDs but the CGI Yavin is the least of my troubles. What really bothers me is the rushed look of the "touch ups" like Luke's green lightsaber in ANH, the horrible green boxes around the TIE fighters in the ROTJ Death Star run, and this ugly blue box around Executor in ESB.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2004-09-27 04:34am

neoolong wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Because it was basically a reuse of the Dewback sound.
Y'know, just ignoring that we KNOW it's a Kraytr dragon call, maybe it being a Dewback call wouldn't have been that odd.
Actually, when I first watched the movie, I had no clue what the hell that was supposed to be.

It wasn't until someone told me that it was him faking a dragon call that I figured out that he was making a noise to scare off the raiders.

Yeah, it sounded like a monster roar to me. Another fan told me it was of a "Kraytr Dragon" like the "skeleton you see earlier." I believed him and saw it backed up in official materials, so yeah.