Official Presidential Debate Reaction Thread

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2004-09-30 10:15pm

OK, Kerry seems to have found his form, and Georgie's stumbling all over himself. Better.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-09-30 10:16pm

I think there is going to be a "Richard Nixon versus Jack Kennedy" effect here. Bush is falling apart, while Kerry is remaining poised and collective. Bush could be spitting gold plated rocket science (which he isn't), but style matter here and Bush looking like he needs to take a nap time is going to really hurt him.

mauldooku · Post by **mauldooku** » 2004-09-30 10:17pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:I think there is going to be a "Richard Nixon versus Jack Kennedy" effect here. Bush is falling apart, while Kerry is remaining poised and collective. Bush could be spitting gold plated rocket science (which he isn't), but style matter here and Bush looking like he needs to take a nap time is going to really hurt him.

All I know is, Mr. Bush will have quite alot to work on in preparation for the next one.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-09-30 10:17pm

Stravo wrote:I have an image of Cheney screaming at the TV "Godamnit you asshole!!!" and throwing something at the TV.

http://www.angryflower.com/cheneys.html

Talon Karrde · Post by **Talon Karrde** » 2004-09-30 10:17pm

Knife wrote:Ahhhh, warm and fuzzy moment.

I'm glad they both took the time to acknowledge each other as normal human beings who have what they believe to be in America's best interest at heart.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2004-09-30 10:18pm

Kerry: No NUKEY NUKEY. Sorry, Shep.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2004-09-30 10:18pm

Badme wrote:All I know is, Mr. Bush will have quite alot to work on in preparation for the next one.

It won't help. Kerry is just too good a debater in comparison.

Gustav32Vasa · Post by **Gustav32Vasa** » 2004-09-30 10:18pm

The last one from Kerry, very very good.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2004-09-30 10:19pm

Anyone wonder whether his handlers will try to get the next debate at an earlier hour. Bush needs his nappy

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2004-09-30 10:19pm

WTF? I'm not sure if my ears fooled me but did he just said "We're increasing funding for nuclear proliferation?"

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-09-30 10:19pm

Darfur should have been a homerun for Bush, but he blew it. Darfur is a perfect example of the shortcomings of Kerry's "let's have a circlejerk at the UN" approach to foreign policy.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-09-30 10:19pm

fgalkin wrote:Kerry: No NUKEY NUKEY. Sorry, Shep.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Bah, another great opening for Bushie, and he blows it.

My god, how hard is it?

"Nukey nukey is bad. Must stop everyone from having one"

"You stop them by, atleast in part, to have the means to destroy them.

Dune- if you can destroy a thing, you can controll it.

mauldooku · Post by **mauldooku** » 2004-09-30 10:19pm

jegs2 wrote:
Badme wrote:All I know is, Mr. Bush will have quite alot to work on in preparation for the next one.
It won't help. Kerry is just too good a debater in comparison.

Well, he might not be able to look better than Kerry, but he can certainly look better than this. He's stumbling far more than usual, and, as others have noticed, looks like he's very fatigued by the exchange.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2004-09-30 10:20pm

Stravo wrote:Anyone wonder whether his handlers will try to get the next debate at an earlier hour. Bush needs his nappy

That was always a very real concern for the Bush team, but Kerry is a skilled debator, so the hour wouldn't matter.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-09-30 10:20pm

I've been watching it on Yahoo!

Guys, quit the "Bush is a poopie head" every 2 seconds. Kerry is fumpfering just as much as Bush is.

Kerry's most shining moment so far was his nuclear proliferation speech.

Princess Vera · Post by **Princess Vera** » 2004-09-30 10:20pm

He did.

Kerry stutters at key times, and Bush is now stuttering ALL the time. But the fact is, Kerry just *looks* and *sounds* less appealing, and that's probably going to matter more, even though Bush just looks bad.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-09-30 10:21pm

Ooo, Kerry can do it in four years. And Kerry wants to do Korea alone. These are big holes, and Bush just stumbles.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2004-09-30 10:21pm

Princess Vera wrote:He did.

Kerry stutters at key times, and Bush is now stuttering ALL the time. But the fact is, Kerry just *looks* and *sounds* less appealing, and that's probably going to matter more, even though Bush just looks bad.

Hmmm, don't buy it. No way can Bush score points off this debate, IMO.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-09-30 10:21pm

But then Bush said he level sanctions and send aid. Like food packets will stop bullets. Plus he just that sanctions don't work!!!

mauldooku · Post by **mauldooku** » 2004-09-30 10:21pm

Lord Poe wrote:I've been watching it on Yahoo!

Guys, quit the "Bush is a poopie head" every 2 seconds. Kerry is fumpfering just as much as Bush is.

Kerry's most shining moment so far was his nuclear proliferation speech.

Are you watching the same debate we are? Kerry's made some big screwups, but Bush is tripping all over himself everytime he speaks.

mauldooku · Post by **mauldooku** » 2004-09-30 10:22pm

And Bush is now referencing his warm, personal rapport with world leaders.

Right.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2004-09-30 10:23pm

Simple comparison. Kerry looks presidential, tall, lean, calm. He speaks well and he's really kept his composure.

Vladmir?? Isn't it Vladameer?

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-09-30 10:23pm

I haven't been impressed by Kerry, he's got holes galore in his arguments and he's not very effective on the attack as someone like Howard Dean would be. Fortunately for him, Bush looks as bad as he's ever looked in a debate tonight.

Princess Vera · Post by **Princess Vera** » 2004-09-30 10:23pm

Do I have bad hearing? Or is he addressing wossname as "Vladimir"?

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-09-30 10:23pm

Kerry won this debate, no question. Where Bush is floundering, Kerry has been composed and presidential. Good job John, I didn't know you had it in you.