Official Presidential Debate Reaction Thread

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2004-09-30 10:24pm

Stravo wrote:Simple comparison. Kerry looks presidential, tall, lean, calm. He speaks well and he's really kept his composure.

Looks, and oratory, can be deceiving.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2004-09-30 10:24pm

Bush: I'll continue to let Putin run his little dictatorship as long as he backs me on the war on terror.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

mauldooku · Post by **mauldooku** » 2004-09-30 10:24pm

Joe wrote:I haven't been impressed by Kerry, he's got holes galore in his arguments and he's not very effective on the attack as someone like Howard Dean would be. Fortunately for him, Bush looks as bad as he's ever looked in a debate tonight.

It's a verbal debate, and a presidential one at that. You shouldn't really be looking for air-tight arguments, methinks.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2004-09-30 10:24pm

I was seriuosly ready to give this one to Bush without hesitation. I am DYING to see what Fox will say.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2004-09-30 10:24pm

The Kernel wrote:Kerry won this debate, no question. Where Bush is floundering, Kerry has been composed and presidential. Good job John, I didn't know you had it in you.

No surprise to me -- Kerry is a much more skilled debator than Bush could ever hope to be.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-09-30 10:24pm

OK, Kerry is giving Bush a huge window here on Korea. If he fucks up here he is truly lost.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-09-30 10:24pm

Stravo wrote:Simple comparison. Kerry looks presidential, tall, lean, calm. He speaks well and he's really kept his composure.

Vladmir?? Isn't it Vladameer?

I disagree. Just because Bush is sucking ass, doesn't make Kerry shine. If anything, he still looks like a 'used car salesman' up there selling shit you don't want.

He's opened himself up to lots of stuff, and just because Bush didn't pounce on nor comment on, doesn't mean its not a problem.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-09-30 10:25pm

Badme wrote:Are you watching the same debate we are?

Yes, I am.. Bush is not doing nowhere near as bad as most are portraying him here. He's well rehearsed, and sticks to the point. Kerry is doing well, but he isn't mashing Bush into the ground.

Princess Vera · Post by **Princess Vera** » 2004-09-30 10:25pm

Kerry's initiatives only include fixing Bush's mistakes.

How trite.

"I'm a pretty calm guy, I don't take it personally."

Oh, right.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-09-30 10:25pm

Joe wrote:OK, Kerry is giving Bush a huge window here on Korea. If he fucks up here he is truly lost.

"you know my position, I've got nothing else to say." Yup, he fucked up.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2004-09-30 10:25pm

"The issue is what you do about it."

SMACK!

mauldooku · Post by **mauldooku** » 2004-09-30 10:26pm

Lord Poe wrote:
Badme wrote:Are you watching the same debate we are?
Yes, I am.. Bush is not doing nowhere near as bad as most are portraying him here. He's well rehearsed, and sticks to the point. Kerry is doing well, but he isn't mashing Bush into the ground.

Kerry isn't smacking Bush down, but he looks competent. Bush is stumbling literally everywhere.

Gustav32Vasa · Post by **Gustav32Vasa** » 2004-09-30 10:26pm

I thought Kerry said befoer that Saddam was not a threat now he was?

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-09-30 10:27pm

Gustav32Vasa wrote:I thought Kerry said befoer that Saddam was not a threat now he was?

They've both actually fliped flooped in the last hour.

Princess Vera · Post by **Princess Vera** » 2004-09-30 10:27pm

"The future belongs to freedom"... What?

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-09-30 10:28pm

Moment of truth, Shrub.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-09-30 10:28pm

Badme wrote:Kerry isn't smacking Bush down, but he looks competent.

Yes. I'm more content voting for him now.

Bush is stumbling literally everywhere.

He's not coming off that badly. Except for the "Uh...I've got nothing else to say..." about Korea.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2004-09-30 10:28pm

Princess Vera wrote:"The future belongs to freedom"... What?

You know it would be nice to not have these two denegrate the word every chance they get.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2004-09-30 10:28pm

Don't think Bush would have done well in a debate against nearly anyone tonight, but then his oratory has always been a severe weakness, especially when having to speak on his feet. His decision-making skills (sticking to a course of action) is his strength. Nobody doubts where he stands.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-09-30 10:29pm

Kerry;

I defended this country in my youth
I will confer with our allies (except with NK)
Freedom, not fear.

And god bless America.

Bush;

Strength and convictions
Offense
build alliances (no vetos on our security)
I believe a bunch of shit

God Bless America

Gustav32Vasa · Post by **Gustav32Vasa** » 2004-09-30 10:30pm

I really dont think that Iraq and Afghanistan is a good exempel of free nations.

Princess Vera · Post by **Princess Vera** » 2004-09-30 10:30pm

Kerry's ending speech sounded nicer than Bush's. He *sounded* nicer than Bush, for once.

Bush:
"The transformational power of liberty"
"the mighty mountain"
"the valley of peace"

I'm waiting for Edwards to cream Cheney now.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-09-30 10:30pm

OK, back to the real world.

mauldooku · Post by **mauldooku** » 2004-09-30 10:30pm

Lord Poe wrote:
Badme wrote:Kerry isn't smacking Bush down, but he looks competent.
Yes. I'm more content voting for him now.

Heh, I've never payed attention to content in any presidential debates, due to what I perceive as a silly format.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2004-09-30 10:31pm

Bush's closing statement is really going to hurt him. Composure in a scripted speech compared to complete panic during the impromptu part does NOT look good for the president.