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Ah yes, Airsoft, when you can't own the real thing, get the next best.

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Yep, every single picture is an Airsoft weapon, NOT the real thing.
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Darth Wong wrote:Ah, but those targets have been widely dispersed, and are not easily identified from the air. Most of them are in nondescript strip malls, and can only be identified by the groups of unruly teenagers who hang around in the parking lot. Your aircraft would need aerial teenager-identification technology.
I am one, finding us is not hard. A combination of acoustical and chemical sensors similar to the air snifters used by NBC reconnaissance vehicles should work. Or I could deliver free T-shirts by ballistic rocket and then use my recon drones to track them back to their normal points of concentration.
Ah, but T-shirts are not preferred outerwear at this time of year in Canada. Your free T-shirts would be spurned and/or covered up by outerwear, and free parkas would be much too expensive in bulk, even if purchased at Wal-Mart.
Teenage mall rats will always swarm on and where free T-shirts. Weather is irrelevant to them when it comes to such things. I could also embed small tracking devices in the hems.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:I could also just send some of my friends with cell phones and GPS receivers.
This is where the shitty cell-phone coverage across Canada's vast expanses will work to our advantage.
Satellite phones then. Near worldwide coverage, only the north and South poles don’t have access, and also impossible to jam over significant areas.

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Darth Wong wrote:We have numerous casinos and strip bars which could be used to hold them indefinitely, without the need for security forces of any kind. Did I mention the fact that lap dancing is legal here?
But first you have to disarm them. Drunks+grenades=bad. And I will lay down heavy artillery fire on your lines of communication. Everything from good old bouncing Betty AP mines to the most advanced porn dispensing cluster munitions.
Porn-dispensing cluster munitions? Goddamn it, those things are outlawed by the Geneva Convention, aren't they?
Perhaps your country signed and ratified such accords, but I'm not held to them.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:Teenage mall rats will always swarm on and where free T-shirts. Weather is irrelevant to them when it comes to such things. I could also embed small tracking devices in the hems.
Even teenagers must eventually bow to thermodynamics.
Satellite phones then. Near worldwide coverage, only the north and South poles don't have access, and also impossible to jam over significant areas.
Then we will have to intercept your spotters with slutty teenaged girls.
Darth Wong wrote:Porn-dispensing cluster munitions? Goddamn it, those things are outlawed by the Geneva Convention, aren't they?
Perhaps your country signed and ratified such accords, but I'm not held to them.
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Darth Wong wrote: Porn-dispensing cluster munitions? Goddamn it, those things are outlawed by the Geneva Convention, aren't they?
Only the Mk.3 JNWY is banned.
There is still debate on the "Hail Mary & Holy Trinity" HMHT-02. Of course, Wong should know this, since he was on the design team for the damn thing. Maybe he's still stuck on the public reaction of the HMHT-02-A variation that he suggested.
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Darth Wong wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:Teenage mall rats will always swarm on and where free T-shirts. Weather is irrelevant to them when it comes to such things. I could also embed small tracking devices in the hems.
Even teenagers must eventually bow to thermodynamics.
And so they will, by returning inside to the malls and liquor stores whose locations I seek.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:Satellite phones then. Near worldwide coverage, only the north and South poles don't have access, and also impossible to jam over significant areas.
Then we will have to intercept your spotters with slutty teenaged girls.
Some will be female, and armed with this information, finding more friends wont exactly be diffacult, and I have nine times the population to draw on. Your sluts will be swamped.
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Darth Wong wrote:Porn-dispensing cluster munitions? Goddamn it, those things are outlawed by the Geneva Convention, aren't they?
Perhaps your country signed and ratified such accords, but I'm not held to them.
Savages!!! We will have no choice but to unleash the dreaded Tom Green audio/video broadcasts, thus spreading terror and causing widespread insanity and vomiting in your population.
*Picks up giant red phone*
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I've already readied a squadron of cruise missiles with the latest creation from demented evil labs. Each missile will dispense millions of condoms infected with herpes, Marburg, which turns your balls black and causes the skin to peel off BTW, and HIV over your population centers. I'll turn your own sex industry against you.
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Just flash red and blue lights. If the crowd disperses, you'll know it's full of teenagers. :)

As for 5E6m/s, it'd have a kinetic energy of about 1.25E13J, assuming a mass of 1kg. Where is all that energy coming from? :)
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Durandal wrote:Just flash red and blue lights. If the crowd disperses, you'll know it's full of teenagers. :)
As for 5E6m/s, it'd have a kinetic energy of about 1.25E13J, assuming a mass of 1kg. Where is all that energy coming from? :)
I know where he got the number from. In one of the other threads, somebody mentioned some sci-fi author who technowanked himself with 5000 km/s handheld railguns. For some reason, this was filed in Mr. Toy's memory as a real-life figure rather than a piece of really badly written sci-fi.
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Seems a bit conservative for sci-fi, though. Most people think that rail guns fire projectiles at c, or so we've been led to believe by Quake 3. :)
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Sea Skimmer wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Even teenagers must eventually bow to thermodynamics.
And so they will, by returning inside to the malls and liquor stores whose locations I seek.
This will only achieve misdirection, as most teenagers are not yet old enough to enter the liquor stores, so when they go indoors, they will most likely be in convenience stores such as 7-11.
Some will be female, and armed with this information, finding more friends wont exactly be diffacult, and I have nine times the population to draw on. Your sluts will be swamped.
Our sluts are of superior training, and can handle multiple targets with ease.
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Darth Wong wrote:Savages!!! We will have no choice but to unleash the dreaded Tom Green audio/video broadcasts, thus spreading terror and causing widespread insanity and vomiting in your population.
*Picks up giant red phone*
"General, I want every telecommunications hub in North America targeted yesterday, send stuff back through time if you have to but I want it done now." "Yes God Emperor."
Our contraband audio/video materials are stored in numerous offshore locations as well, including many secret Internet sites. The bombardment of shitty, sophomoric, painfully repetitive toilet humour will severely deplete your population through mass suicides.
I've already readied a squadron of cruise missiles with the latest creation from demented evil labs. Each missile will dispense millions of condoms infected with herpes, Marburg, which turns your balls black and causes the skin to peel off BTW, and HIV over your population centers. I'll turn your own sex industry against you.
Fiendishly clever tactic. However, we know better than to pick up and use condoms laying around on the street, particularly since winter-time Canadian streets are covered with rock salt; a substance which we would not want anywhere near our genitals.
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Darth Wong wrote:
Durandal wrote:Just flash red and blue lights. If the crowd disperses, you'll know it's full of teenagers. :)
As for 5E6m/s, it'd have a kinetic energy of about 1.25E13J, assuming a mass of 1kg. Where is all that energy coming from? :)
I know where he got the number from. In one of the other threads, somebody mentioned some sci-fi author who technowanked himself with 5000 km/s handheld railguns. For some reason, this was filed in Mr. Toy's memory as a real-life figure rather than a piece of really badly written sci-fi.
Dale Brown, and it was 3000 meters per second.
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Durandal wrote:Seems a bit conservative for sci-fi, though. Most people think that rail guns fire projectiles at c, or so we've been led to believe by Quake 3. :)
Not to mention "Eraser". I loved the way the slugs (fired with no appreciable recoil, of course) would pick up a man and send him flying across the room rather than simply punching a hole through him.
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Darth Wong wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote: And so they will, by returning inside to the malls and liquor stores whose locations I seek.
This will only achieve misdirection, as most teenagers are not yet old enough to enter the liquor stores, so when they go indoors, they will most likely be in convenience stores such as 7-11.
The minority that can will be sufficient combined with my scouts. Though a great many JSOW's will be going off target.
Darth Wong wrote:Our sluts are of superior training, and can handle multiple targets with ease.


It would seem that human anatomy would prevent them fucking of more then three others at once, and I doubt they all agree to it. That at worst still leaves me with six free scouts at any one time for every teen slut you can deploy.
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Darth Wong wrote:Savages!!! We will have no choice but to unleash the dreaded Tom Green audio/video broadcasts, thus spreading terror and causing widespread insanity and vomiting in your population.
*Picks up giant red phone*
"General, I want every telecommunications hub in North America targeted yesterday, send stuff back through time if you have to but I want it done now." "Yes God Emperor."
Our contraband audio/video materials are stored in numerous offshore locations as well, including many secret Internet sites. The bombardment of shitty, sophomoric, painfully repetitive toilet humour will severely deplete your population through mass suicides.
If I destroy every hub in North America, then offshore sites and servers will have no way of accessing the general public. The hubs they need to use will be destroyed , thus protecting the population till proper screenings can be conducted.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:I've already readied a squadron of cruise missiles with the latest creation from demented evil labs. Each missile will dispense millions of condoms infected with herpes, Marburg, which turns your balls black and causes the skin to peel off BTW, and HIV over your population centers. I'll turn your own sex industry against you.
Fiendishly clever tactic. However, we know better than to pick up and use condoms laying around on the street, particularly since winter-time Canadian streets are covered with rock salt; a substance which we would not want anywhere near our genitals.
But you see, every condom is encased within a new generation of guided brilliant submuntion. The munition locks onto other condoms and steers its self to home in on them. It also has a very small penatraitor to go through roofs, along with a last second retrorocket and condom release system to ensure proper delivery. You'd never know it had happened until days later when you start noticing the leak. And even then, no one would make the connection.
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Darth Wong wrote:
Durandal wrote:Seems a bit conservative for sci-fi, though. Most people think that rail guns fire projectiles at c, or so we've been led to believe by Quake 3. :)
Not to mention "Eraser". I loved the way the slugs (fired with no appreciable recoil, of course) would pick up a man and send him flying across the room rather than simply punching a hole through him.
Dale Brown isn't considered a Sci fi writer though, and doesn't think of him self as such. That's what really makes his work truly awful. If he switched to hard-core sci fi, his plot and character development problems would remain, but the tech shit would not be so bad. Most of the problems stem from trying to do the impossible with real life technology. It doesn't work so we get utter crap.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:This will only achieve misdirection, as most teenagers are not yet old enough to enter the liquor stores, so when they go indoors, they will most likely be in convenience stores such as 7-11.
The minority that can will be sufficient combined with my scouts. Though a great many JSOW's will be going off target.
Ah, so unless you have vast numbers of these munitions, you will be unable to significantly weaken our liquor distribution system.
It would seem that human anatomy would prevent them fucking of more then three others at once, and I doubt they all agree to it. That at worst still leaves me with six free scouts at any one time for every teen slut you can deploy.
Assuming they aren't simply waiting their turn. Since they are teenagers, this seems highly unlikely.
If I destroy every hub in North America, then offshore sites and servers will have no way of accessing the general public. The hubs they need to use will be destroyed , thus protecting the population till proper screenings can be conducted.
There is still conventional TV broadcasting.
But you see, every condom is encased within a new generation of guided brilliant submuntion. The munition locks onto other condoms and steers its self to home in on them. It also has a very small penatraitor to go through roofs, along with a last second retrorocket and condom release system to ensure proper delivery. You'd never know it had happened until days later when you start noticing the leak. And even then, no one would make the connection.
I wouldn't brag about your small penetrators if I were you.

Besides, that particular research project is dependent upon condom-tracking technologies developed by anti-contraception fundamentalists in Georgia, and while they have faith that it will work, I consider it doubtful.
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Ugh. The worst was a massive railgun 15 m long that could accelerate nuclear warheads into FOBOS or ballistic trajectories and bomb anywhere on the globe with nukes. What the fuck.
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Illuminatus Primus wrote:Ugh. The worst was a massive railgun 15 m long that could accelerate nuclear warheads into FOBOS or ballistic trajectories and bomb anywhere on the globe with nukes. What the fuck.
Sounds like some guy who applied Star Trek writing methods to real-life terminology.
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i forgot that Mr. Wong.

Not to mention "Eraser". I loved the way the slugs (fired with no appreciable recoil, of course) would pick up a man and send him flying across the room rather than simply punching a hole through him

Unless you place Acceleration Dampers on the barrel.



I know where he got the number from. In one of the other threads, somebody mentioned some sci-fi author who technowanked himself with 5000 km/s handheld railguns. For some reason, this was filed in Mr. Toy's memory as a real-life figure rather than a piece of really badly written sci-fi.
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lets not forget the electronics destroying weapon...


The EMP Pulse Generator...

This badboy could knock out unhardened electrical systems around a city. First you have your electronics sparking (Much like the exploding consoles in star trek) and your electrical appliances would be useless as shit.


Configured correctly and you could disable those mall-full of wild teenagers.
You see the EMP would be configured to 4 GHZ. This would in fact knock them unconscious.
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Besides, that particular research project is dependent upon condom-tracking technologies developed by anti-contraception fundamentalists in Georgia, and while they have faith that it will work, I consider it doubtful.
This technology would likely come straight from Rome, as protestants -- believe it or not -- don't have hangups about condom use (in marriage, of course).
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Darth Wong wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:The minority that can will be sufficient combined with my scouts. Though a great many JSOW's will be going off target.
Ah, so unless you have vast numbers of these munitions, you will be unable to significantly weaken our liquor distribution system.
The planned total buy is for tens of thousands. JDAM's would also work just fine, the USAF and USN are buying 87,000 of them, plus replacements for those expended in combat. The current production rate is some 3,300 kits per month plus around 800 JOSW's. Starting up new lines would be a very quick process. I doubt Canada has sufficient targets meeting the parameters for that level of bombing.

There are also about a hundred thousand other older PGM's on hand which could easily bust a 7-11 or liquor store. Normal bombing also works just fine. My own military forces are of course equipped far more lavishly then those of the state in which there based.
It would seem that human anatomy would prevent them fucking of more then three others at once, and I doubt they all agree to it. That at worst still leaves me with six free scouts at any one time for every teen slut you can deploy.
Assuming they aren't simply waiting their turn. Since they are teenagers, this seems highly unlikely.
You'd be surprised. Sex is easy to come by in the states, if anything the others would be wondering off looking for Pot. That would bring them into contact with the local teen population, and through that the alcohol stocks. Mission accomplished.
If I destroy every hub in North America, then offshore sites and servers will have no way of accessing the general public. The hubs they need to use will be destroyed , thus protecting the population till proper screenings can be conducted.
There is still conventional TV broadcasting.

That's a form of telecommunications, the towers should be simple to turn off or topple. And also one that's easily jammed by my electronic warfare forces.
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Besides, that particular research project is dependent upon condom-tracking technologies developed by anti-contraception fundamentalists in Georgia, and while they have faith that it will work, I consider it doubtful.
I'm confident in the technology. Religious Dedication can occasional produce worthwhile production. You might want to start preying that they do work. Other wise your going to have a hail of steel darts contaminated with bio weapons raining down across your cities. Without proper targeting the rockets wont fire in time. The random destruction and slaughter of exposed population would be rather serious.

You've also forgotten one weapon. Those Volcanoes your beer barrage plugged up, there still active, and sitting in your territory. Only with coak'ed throats, the pressure is rising rapidly, and a little event in Washington State shows us what happened when the pressure becomes too great.
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This badboy could knock out unhardened electrical systems around a city. First you have your electronics sparking (Much like the exploding consoles in star trek) and your electrical appliances would be useless as shit.
Its Redicuilousy easy to protect yourself aginst an EMP Attack for stationary Devices at least

Mobile things however no chance, can't shield them and still be useful

One of the things I had to learn in training was how to prevent and limit damage from any EMP Based Attacks

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Mr Bean wrote:
This badboy could knock out unhardened electrical systems around a city. First you have your electronics sparking (Much like the exploding consoles in star trek) and your electrical appliances would be useless as shit.
Its Redicuilousy easy to protect yourself aginst an EMP Attack for stationary Devices at least

Mobile things however no chance, can't shield them and still be useful

One of the things I had to learn in training was how to prevent and limit damage from any EMP Based Attacks
Can't you at least provide some EMP protection for mobile things (ie the VC-25, E-4, various warships)?
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I want one :shock: ...even if a real guns better, the other jerk driver doesn't know that...
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Can't you at least provide some EMP protection for mobile things (ie the VC-25, E-4, various warships)?
Mobile as in things like Cell Phones

If we can do it for Laptops I THINK we can manage it on Ships

However Airplanes are iffy, We can shield most of the instrusments but some we can't because you would take to great a preformance hit

On the plus side when an Airplane is in the Air its easier to tear it apart with a Slammer than it is to make an EMP Weapon

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Those other guns were good, but when it comes to the ULTIMATE BB gun, there can only be one:

http://thqreviews3.homestead.com/matts_vulcan.html

The most expensive airsoft BB gun ever built. Only 1,000 were actually produced.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present the General Electric M134 Minigun, airsoft version:

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A hybrid gas-electric gun (gas to fire the pellets, electric to spin the barrels), its rate of fire matches that of it's "real" counterpart - 6,000 RPM. The magazine holds 3,000 BBs - the contents of six standard bags of 500 pellets. Those 3,000 pellets it will burn off in 30 seconds.

The gun, manufactured by Asahi, was on sale in Japan for ¥398,000 ($3,254) and, at least at the time of its release, was the most expensive BB gun in the world.
200 GT TLs.

6 MT Point defence guns.

1 KT Starfighter cannon (Near-Hiroshima-level damage!)

STAR WARS STRIKES BACK!!!
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