NASA to refute Moon landing conspiracy theorists
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NASA to refute Moon landing conspiracy theorists
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The truly sad part of this comedy:
Oberg "has got one hell of a job ahead of him," said skeptic Ralph Rene, a New Jersey carpenter who said he's self-taught in physics and has self-published two books. One book claims the moon landing didn't happen; the other criticizes Isaac Newton's grasp of physics. "I could care less what they do."
The truly sad part to this comedy is hard to judge exactly: that reality can be questioned by morons like Mr. Rene, the "self-taught physicist" who doubts Issac Newton's grasp of physics (lemme guess: the apple actually floated above his head), or that a few million people are actually willing to loan morons like these credence.
The truly sad part to this comedy is hard to judge exactly: that reality can be questioned by morons like Mr. Rene, the "self-taught physicist" who doubts Issac Newton's grasp of physics (lemme guess: the apple actually floated above his head), or that a few million people are actually willing to loan morons like these credence.
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So a half dozen bibles makes someone more truthful then just one?Last month Buzz Aldrin, the second man on the moon, punched a conspiracy theorist who had been pestering him to swear on a stack of Bibles that the landing was real.
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So Buzz Aldrin, deep inside, knows he didn't land on the moon because lying while swearing on a stack of bibles is against his beliefs?Alyeska wrote:So a half dozen bibles makes someone more truthful then just one?Last month Buzz Aldrin, the second man on the moon, punched a conspiracy theorist who had been pestering him to swear on a stack of Bibles that the landing was real.
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Perhaps they feel that all of the inconsistencies will cancel out if you put Bibles on top of one another, like wave superposition.Alyeska wrote:So a half dozen bibles makes someone more truthful then just one?Last month Buzz Aldrin, the second man on the moon, punched a conspiracy theorist who had been pestering him to swear on a stack of Bibles that the landing was real.
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Has anyone actually seen the footage of Buzz Aldrin punching that guy? What they don't bother to say about it is that after Aldrin blew him off about swearing on the bibles I believe he called him something along the lines of a liar and a coward...then Buzz nailed him in the jaw and walked away.
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In that case, you'd have to have two identical Bibles face-to-face on each other. Unless, of course, biblical inconsistency propagates in all directions and is not a simple linear phenomenon.Perhaps they feel that all of the inconsistencies will cancel out if you put Bibles on top of one another, like wave superposition.
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Yup. I saw that. That shit was awesome. And if you note, the dumbass couldn't explain why his head went back and to the left, just had a stupid grin.ElBlanco wrote:That was on the Daily Show. It was kind of funny. That dude was like 35 and got cold cocked by a 78 year old man.
And the strange part is, his head went back and to the left, back and to the left.......
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Dude, 1/5th of the American population is hardly a minority.Yet a 1999 poll found that 11 percent of the American public doubted the moon landing happened, and Fox officials said such skepticism increased to about 20 percent after their show, which was seen by about 15 million viewers.
These numbers are somewhat scary. Although down here 20 percent of the people believe that communism was an OK system...so I don't really know what scares me more
Welcome to the wonderful planet we call homePeZook wrote:Dude, 1/5th of the American population is hardly a minority.Yet a 1999 poll found that 11 percent of the American public doubted the moon landing happened, and Fox officials said such skepticism increased to about 20 percent after their show, which was seen by about 15 million viewers.
These numbers are somewhat scary. Although down here 20 percent of the people believe that communism was an OK system...so I don't really know what scares me more
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Errm...anything under 1/2 is a minority. It may not be a small minority, but it is a minority. Besides, at least 3/4 of the American population is uneducated. And 9/10 of statistics are made up on the spot. (Basically, don't trust polls unless you see the raw data and the questions asked...even then, doubt above all else...statistics are easy to manipulate).PeZook wrote:Dude, 1/5th of the American population is hardly a minority.Yet a 1999 poll found that 11 percent of the American public doubted the moon landing happened, and Fox officials said such skepticism increased to about 20 percent after their show, which was seen by about 15 million viewers.
These numbers are somewhat scary. Although down here 20 percent of the people believe that communism was an OK system...so I don't really know what scares me more
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Ain't that the truth...The Dark wrote:Errm...anything under 1/2 is a minority. It may not be a small minority, but it is a minority. Besides, at least 3/4 of the American population is uneducated. And 9/10 of statistics are made up on the spot. (Basically, don't trust polls unless you see the raw data and the questions asked...even then, doubt above all else...statistics are easy to manipulate).PeZook wrote:Dude, 1/5th of the American population is hardly a minority.Yet a 1999 poll found that 11 percent of the American public doubted the moon landing happened, and Fox officials said such skepticism increased to about 20 percent after their show, which was seen by about 15 million viewers.
These numbers are somewhat scary. Although down here 20 percent of the people believe that communism was an OK system...so I don't really know what scares me more
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Holding an alternative political view some may disagree with is far less scary a thing than doubting a fundamental fact of history and science. That represents a very seriously worrying trend toward ignorance in the society in general.PeZook wrote:These numbers are somewhat scary. Although down here 20 percent of the people believe that communism was an OK system...so I don't really know what scares me more
Communism is no threat. Stupidity, however, most certainly is.
Believing communism could ever work is betraying ignorance of human's animal instincts (among other things), and an unhealthy amount of wishful thinking (on the part of the true believers). Believing the moon landings were faked is merely the results of ignorance of physics, and an unhealthy degree of paranoia about the government (on the part of the true believers).Patrick Degan wrote:Communism is no threat. Stupidity, however, most certainly is.
Both beliefs are based on ignorance - and advocating either of them is foolish.
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You hit the nail on the head. Greed is one of the main reasons Communism would never work. There will ALWAYS be a class system in whatever social system a government trys to establish.Nick wrote:Believing communism could ever work is betraying ignorance of human's animal instincts (among other things)
First of all, 20% is 1/5, not 11%.
Second, I have to agree that most polls done are fairly inaccurate, be it biased questioning, bad demographic, etc.
Under the most technical defenition some of these polls use, I am a creationist. Hell, I had a astronomy professor who told us he was considered a creationist because even though he preaches the Big Bang and evolution and all of that, he thinks there is a god who set it all in motion. This is a man who is working on super string theory and possibly a Nobel Prize for physics, and a pollster considered him a creationist.
Second, I have to agree that most polls done are fairly inaccurate, be it biased questioning, bad demographic, etc.
Under the most technical defenition some of these polls use, I am a creationist. Hell, I had a astronomy professor who told us he was considered a creationist because even though he preaches the Big Bang and evolution and all of that, he thinks there is a god who set it all in motion. This is a man who is working on super string theory and possibly a Nobel Prize for physics, and a pollster considered him a creationist.
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You might consider finishing reading what the person quoted before you attempt to refrute what they said.ElBlanco wrote:First of all, 20% is 1/5, not 11%.
Second, I have to agree that most polls done are fairly inaccurate, be it biased questioning, bad demographic, etc.
Under the most technical defenition some of these polls use, I am a creationist. Hell, I had a astronomy professor who told us he was considered a creationist because even though he preaches the Big Bang and evolution and all of that, he thinks there is a god who set it all in motion. This is a man who is working on super string theory and possibly a Nobel Prize for physics, and a pollster considered him a creationist.
11% doubted before the show, 20% after. As you said 20%=1/5.
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I wonder if that caused him to rethink his position? 'I can't explain why my head went back and to the left. Maybe I not smart?'neoolong wrote:Yup. I saw that. That shit was awesome. And if you note, the dumbass couldn't explain why his head went back and to the left, just had a stupid grin.ElBlanco wrote:That was on the Daily Show. It was kind of funny. That dude was like 35 and got cold cocked by a 78 year old man.
And the strange part is, his head went back and to the left, back and to the left.......