Report: Nazis Planned to Rebuild Auschwitz

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2004-10-10 08:13pm

Aww, their dreams were ruined! (insert vomit smiley)

Spice Runner · Post by **Spice Runner** » 2004-10-10 08:25pm

I wouldn't put anything past the nazis.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-10-10 08:30pm

Let us go to the south pole to follow them into the CENTER OF THE EARTH!

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-10-10 08:45pm

Beware the SUPERSONIC ALUMINUM NAZI HELL CREATURES FROM BENEATH THE HOLLOW EARTH.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2004-10-10 09:40pm

Hey, these were the Nazis. They took Prussian anality and made it into an art. This does sound like something they'd do, though...

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2004-10-10 09:52pm

Out of curiosity, what have they done with these old sites? I would expect that they be made into memorials and museums.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-10-10 11:25pm

MKSheppard wrote:Let us go to the south pole to follow them into the CENTER OF THE EARTH!

You'd think the Germans would try to avoid moving to places with a lot of snow.

Cpl Kendall wrote:Out of curiosity, what have they done with these old sites? I would expect that they be made into memorials and museums.

I know Auschwitz is a memorial now. I don't think they'd preserve all of them though.

Alferd Packer · Post by **Alferd Packer** » 2004-10-11 01:39am

Gandalf wrote:I know Auschwitz is a memorial now. I don't think they'd preserve all of them though.

Every KZ that hasn't been completely demolished and built over is either now a memorial or becoming one. Aside from Auschwitz, I'm not sure about the death camps.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-10-11 02:01am

Cpl Kendall wrote:Out of curiosity, what have they done with these old sites? I would expect that they be made into memorials and museums.

actually would you believe a Carmalite Nunnery and a disco....

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-10-11 02:18am

The Yosemite Bear wrote:
Cpl Kendall wrote:Out of curiosity, what have they done with these old sites? I would expect that they be made into memorials and museums.
actually would you believe a Carmalite Nunnery and a disco....

...

You're shitting me, right?

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-10-11 02:30am

No the Caramlite sisterhood has a convent on the site where the camp brothel used to be.

The site of the camp's mass graves/ovens has a memorial, and there is a Dance club occupying the space where one of the slave labour factories used to occur.

needless to say, Isreal complained bitterly to the vatican about the Convent, until the Vatican responded that the first women forced to serve in the Auscwitz brothels were Polish Catholic Nuns.

CJvR · Post by **CJvR** » 2004-10-11 09:57am

Auschwitz I is the main museum and is very well preserved. It is located in some old military baracks - solid brick buildings among them the death barack (holy ground for Poland). Also preserved there is gas chamber #1 along with a few ovens captured on the main Auschwitz rail station. That is the only surviving gas chamber/crematorium.

Auschwitz II is mostly destroyed. However the main guard, guard towers and three blocks of baracks remain - one of those are the wooden type and the other two blocks are older brick baracks. There is also a memorial over the victims of Nazism and an exhibition in the old camp bathhouse. 90% of the baracks are gone though, only the foundations and other stone structures remain of those.

Auschwitz III was a labor camp for IG Farbens factories, still operation btw - you spot them by the old Nazu style fences surrounding them. I don't know how much remain of that camp but it is not well known and IIRC not included in the Auschwitz museum.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2004-10-11 10:23am

The Yosemite Bear wrote:needless to say, Isreal complained bitterly to the vatican about the Convent, until the Vatican responded that the first women forced to serve in the Auscwitz brothels were Polish Catholic Nuns.

Jesus, I didn't know about that.

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2004-10-11 10:58am

Most of the KZ's are now memorials and museums.

However, there are some cases where the authorities made really tasteless decisions. For example, on the ground of the former KZ Neuengamme near Hamburg (~60 km from my hometown), they built a prison in the 1950's! (The prison was only closed two years ago)

That is what I call tasteless.

Alferd Packer · Post by **Alferd Packer** » 2004-10-11 12:31pm

Tribun wrote:That is what I call tasteless.

What about the Ravensbrueck supermarket thing? Did they ever resolve that?

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2004-10-11 01:07pm

CJvR wrote:Auschwitz I is the main museum and is very well preserved. It is located in some old military baracks - solid brick buildings among them the death barack (holy ground for Poland). Also preserved there is gas chamber #1 along with a few ovens captured on the main Auschwitz rail station. That is the only surviving gas chamber/crematorium.

Auschwitz II is mostly destroyed. However the main guard, guard towers and three blocks of baracks remain - one of those are the wooden type and the other two blocks are older brick baracks. There is also a memorial over the victims of Nazism and an exhibition in the old camp bathhouse. 90% of the baracks are gone though, only the foundations and other stone structures remain of those.

Auschwitz III was a labor camp for IG Farbens factories, still operation btw - you spot them by the old Nazu style fences surrounding them. I don't know how much remain of that camp but it is not well known and IIRC not included in the Auschwitz museum.

I thought gas chamber #1 was rebuilt in 1948 after survivors' description as all the original gas chambers had been razed by the retreating Germans in order to destroy evidence? I remember reading in a newspaper a few years ago that the French liberal magazine L'Express ran a story about it. Some neo-nazi fuckers and revisionists tried to make a big deal out of that, but failed of course.

CJvR · Post by **CJvR** » 2004-10-11 03:15pm

Mange the Swede wrote:I thought gas chamber #1 was rebuilt in 1948 after survivors' description as all the original gas chambers had been razed by the retreating Germans in order to destroy evidence? I remember reading in a newspaper a few years ago that the French liberal magazine L'Express ran a story about it. Some neo-nazi fuckers and revisionists tried to make a big deal out of that, but failed of course.

Not quite, the building remained but it was used for other purposes after the much bigger facilities in Auschwitz II came online. The gas chambers there was destroyed - one by the camp resistance and the rest by the evacuating Nazis. The first gas chamber survived and was restored to it's killing days apperance with material discovered at the railstation. The first gas chamber was located just outside Auschwitz I and not in Auschwitz II. The Death block in Auschwitz where the Nazis developed the gassing techniq is also still standing.

Gas chamber #1 is built a bit like a bunker, partly underground and with heavy doors opening into a long very dark room, black walls. From this room, the gas chamber itself, there are side doors leading into the crematorium. There are tracks and cars to speed up the process of emptying the gas chamber. On the small hill created by the gas chamber the camp commander was hanged after the war.

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2004-10-11 04:11pm

CJvR wrote:
Mange the Swede wrote:I thought gas chamber #1 was rebuilt in 1948 after survivors' description as all the original gas chambers had been razed by the retreating Germans in order to destroy evidence? I remember reading in a newspaper a few years ago that the French liberal magazine L'Express ran a story about it. Some neo-nazi fuckers and revisionists tried to make a big deal out of that, but failed of course.
Not quite, the building remained but it was used for other purposes after the much bigger facilities in Auschwitz II came online. The gas chambers there was destroyed - one by the camp resistance and the rest by the evacuating Nazis. The first gas chamber survived and was restored to it's killing days apperance with material discovered at the railstation. The first gas chamber was located just outside Auschwitz I and not in Auschwitz II. The Death block in Auschwitz where the Nazis developed the gassing techniq is also still standing.

Gas chamber #1 is built a bit like a bunker, partly underground and with heavy doors opening into a long very dark room, black walls. From this room, the gas chamber itself, there are side doors leading into the crematorium. There are tracks and cars to speed up the process of emptying the gas chamber. On the small hill created by the gas chamber the camp commander was hanged after the war.

Ok, thanks for clearing that up.