Episode III A5 Juggernaut

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-10-12 09:49am

Mentioned on Mike's Ground Combat Armor section for SW, those who visit the Episode III spoiler forum will know about it already. But it's out on the main sw.com Art of Revenge section now, so it's no longer spoiler material:

How cool is this vehicle?

Kick. Ass. Picture. Note the caption.

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2004-10-12 09:53am

Sandcrawler eat your heart out

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2004-10-12 09:54am

Looks like the tank design that was going to be used in TESB before they decided on walkers. Still cool, though.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-10-12 10:01am

I like it, looks like a mobile command centre, troop transport, and battlewagon.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-10-12 10:07am

Elfdart wrote:Looks like the tank design that was going to be used in TESB before they decided on walkers. Still cool, though.

Exactly. As the caption says, a lot of Revenge of the Sith has gone to unused ANH concept art, as the EU did. The caption even acknowledges the EU designation.

Post by **weemadando** » 2004-10-12 10:34am

That looks a whole hell of a lot like the WEG "Juggernaught Mobile Command Centre" I believe it is referred to. WEG got it from the original art and now its in Ep3.

Go cross-pollinisation of media!

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2004-10-12 10:40am

http://www.galacticempiredatabank.com/Juggernaut.html

The GEDB's section on it. The picture is damn near identical, excepting the forward turret and aft command 'deathtrap' tower. Of course in this picture, it may well be that the tower has been blown off.

But otherwise, its preaty much identical. Kudos to the use of vehicles adopted to the EU and the retaining of their design.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-10-12 10:57am

DUDE!!

I pray to God that this survives into the final film...

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-10-12 11:53am

Ahhhhhhhh, victory! *Runs off to shove this in the faces of the fools at Descent of the Jedi who insist that Lucas would never allow the EU to "contaminate" the "canon."*

Executor32 · Post by **Executor32** » 2004-10-12 12:09pm

Rogue 9 wrote:Ahhhhhhhh, victory! *Runs off to shove this in the faces of the fools at Descent of the Jedi who insist that Lucas would never allow the EU to "contaminate" the "canon."*

Don't forget to mention Coruscant!

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2004-10-12 12:11pm

Rogue 9 wrote:Ahhhhhhhh, victory! *Runs off to shove this in the faces of the fools at Descent of the Jedi who insist that Lucas would never allow the EU to "contaminate" the "canon."*

Again, I wrote this in the spoiler section. This design isn't EU. It was designed for the Empire Strikes Back and can be seen in The Art of Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back, so this is a recycled concept of a design that wasn't used. In fact, the vehicle lacks some of the features that was shown in the Imperial Sourcebook, most notably the sensor tower (well, at least this design sketch did).

Personally I don't mind EU designs in the movie. In fact, I think it's a pity that the Z-95s wasn't included in Episode III. I prefer that design instead of the new design that was chosen for the Clone Fighters (shown on Art of Revenge a few weeks ago).

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-10-12 12:24pm

Vympel wrote:Mentioned on Mike's Ground Combat Armor section for SW, those who visit the Episode III spoiler forum will know about it already. But it's out on the main sw.com Art of Revenge section now, so it's no longer spoiler material:

How cool is this vehicle?

Kick. Ass. Picture. Note the caption.

w00t! Another EU ship! More proof to Trekkies that Lucas respects the EU.

I want AT-PT's next!

I always thought the Juggernaught was cool. The first appearance I can remember is Darksaber, where a Jedi mind tricks the gunner into firing into his own vehicle.

Executor32 · Post by **Executor32** » 2004-10-12 12:41pm

Splinter of the Mind's Eye is actually where they first appeared. They were used to search for Luke, Leia, and the old woman, and our heroes hijacked one at one point.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-10-12 01:03pm

I prefer that design instead of the new design that was chosen for the Clone Fighters (shown on Art of Revenge a few weeks ago).

Note, that was a design from two years ago, it´s not certain that the ARC-170 fighters will look like that...

I want AT-PT's next!

If the leaked concept-art I´ve got is any indication, we´ll be getting an AT-PT "variation", at least. It was an open-air, one-man walker with legs that looked more similiar to the AT-PT than the AT-ST.

I´m also hoping for some nice vehicles (old and new) in the last five CW-shorts.

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2004-10-12 01:10pm

VT-16 wrote:
I prefer that design instead of the new design that was chosen for the Clone Fighters (shown on Art of Revenge a few weeks ago).
Note, that was a design from two years ago, it´s not certain that the ARC-170 fighters will look like that...

Yes, but we'll soon find out. According to TFN who has a description of the trailer (where Josh claims to actually have seen the trailer, they were right about the trailers for AOTC also) the ARC-170 fighters are briefly shown.

EDIT: To expand on my earlier post, I found that Dr. Saxton had this picture from The Art of Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back showing a (partial) Juggernaut in the background:

+http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/books/ ... gfoot1.jpg

Comosicus · Post by **Comosicus** » 2004-10-12 05:58pm

This looks pretty much like the counterparts of AT-AT used in a strategy video game (Galactic Battlegrounds IIRC)

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2004-10-12 06:04pm

Comosicus wrote:This looks pretty much like the counterparts of AT-AT used in a strategy video game (Galactic Battlegrounds IIRC)

Yeah. It makes also sence that Rebels would use this craft or something similar as their counterpart for AT-AT (basically the same thing, bur not powerfull and being this old it probaly wouldn't hard to steal or buy one these.

JointStrikeFighter · Post by **JointStrikeFighter** » 2004-10-12 07:58pm

it seems great but i thinmk that the centre of gravity shuld be reduced before the movie comes out, even better it should be fitted with 4 sets of tracks

THEHOOLIGANJEDI · Post by **THEHOOLIGANJEDI** » 2004-10-12 08:04pm

Cool. Speaking of which. Is the Z-95 Headhunter an original concept design or pure EU??

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2004-10-12 08:49pm

THEHOOLIGANJEDI wrote:Cool. Speaking of which. Is the Z-95 Headhunter an original concept design or pure EU??

the name is EU, but the most common apperence is from a x-wing concept.

Old Plympto · Post by **Old Plympto** » 2004-10-13 09:28am

Executor32 wrote:Splinter of the Mind's Eye is actually where they first appeared. They were used to search for Luke, Leia, and the old woman, and our heroes hijacked one at one point.

Although that was a treaded vehicle, the Chris Sprouse drawings in that comic are too small to be a Juggernaut. But I don't remember if the novel called it a Juggernaut though. I'll tell you what EU vehicle that wasn't mentioned in the novel was in that comic though: the Uulshos Chariot Light Assault Vehicle / Command Speeder, although it had an open top passenger compartment.

Back to the topic, I believe the first appearance of the EU Juggernaut was in the Imperial Sourcebook back in 1990, way before the Thrawn Trilogy, where the Chariot and the Skipray made their first appearances as well, I think.

Jean Paul · Post by **Jean Paul** » 2004-10-13 12:49pm

It looks kinda like a Stryker. Well, a giant sized stryker.

Darth Maul · Post by **Darth Maul** » 2004-10-13 03:45pm

I seem to recall this being almost 2 times the height of an AT-AT with firepower to level a city. Is this right? I believe its in the Guide to Vehicles and Vessels

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-10-13 05:31pm

That must have been some other vehicle. The Juggernaut has never been described as bigger than the AT-AT, I think, only as an "AT-AT-Lite". ^^;;;

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-10-13 07:52pm

The main body of a juggernaught is about the same size of an AT-AT's body, I think. A juggernaught might be a little bit larger in basic size, but not by much.

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