Darth Wong wrote:You know the problem with right-wingnuts? They've successfully changed the litmus test for an argument or news report from "subjectivity vs objectivity" to "liberal vs conservative".
That way, they can dismiss anything which is liberal as intrinsically "biased" and therefore wrong, even if it is logical and objective.
Well, from what I've seen from the report I'm reading so far, you can see this isn't the case.
After years of debating creationists, I am not particularly impressed with "read this website" rebuttals.
Once again: "subliminal liberal beliefs" such as?
Such as references to liberal think tanks as un-biased sources on topics of interest.
Provide an example of this happening.
"It's not evil for God to do it. Or for someone to do it at God's command."- Jonathan Boyd on baby-killing
"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
Darth Wong wrote:You know the problem with right-wingnuts? They've successfully changed the litmus test for an argument or news report from "subjectivity vs objectivity" to "liberal vs conservative".
That way, they can dismiss anything which is liberal as intrinsically "biased" and therefore wrong, even if it is logical and objective.
Well, from what I've seen from the report I'm reading so far, you can see this isn't the case.
After years of debating creationists, I am not particularly impressed with "read this website" rebuttals.
Once again: "subliminal liberal beliefs" such as?
Such as references to liberal think tanks as un-biased sources on topics of interest.
Provide an example of this happening.
Damnit Mike. It's a study done from UCLA, Stanford, and the University of Chicago. It's not just a random website.
Talon Karrde wrote:Damnit Mike. It's a study done from UCLA, Stanford, and the University of Chicago. It's not just a random website.
Irrelevant, moron. You have not explained their methodology or cited any specific facts raised in defense of their conclusion. All you're doing is appealing to their authority.
"It's not evil for God to do it. Or for someone to do it at God's command."- Jonathan Boyd on baby-killing
"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
Now Sinclair's decision to order its 62 stations to carry a movie attacking Kerry's Vietnam record is drawing political fire -- not least from the Democratic National Committee, which plans to file a federal complaint today accusing the company of election-law violations. "Sinclair's owners aren't interested in news, they're interested in pro-Bush propaganda," said DNC Chairman Terry McAuliffe, whose complaint will accuse the firm of making an in-kind contribution to the Bush campaign.
It's telling, what the RNC did with Farenheit 9/11....which was......nothing.
"If scientists and inventors who develop disease cures and useful technologies don't get lifetime royalties, I'd like to know what fucking rationale you have for some guy getting lifetime royalties for writing an episode of Full House." - Mike Wong
"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944
A FCC Commissioner (one - uno -singular) weighs in...
Commissioner Michael J. Copps reacted to reports that Sinclair Broadcast Group will preempt more than 60 local stations across the country to air an overtly political program in the days prior to the Presidential election.
Copps stated: “This is an abuse of the public trust. And it is proof positive of media consolidation run amok when one owner can use the public airwaves to blanket the country with its political ideology -- whether liberal or conservative. Some will undoubtedly question if this is appropriate stewardship of the public airwaves. This is the same corporation that refused to air Nightline’s reading of our war dead in Iraq. It is the same corporation that short-shrifts local communities and local jobs by distance-casting news and weather from hundreds of miles away. It is a sad fact that the explicit public interest protections we once had to ensure balance continue to be weakened by the Federal Communications Commission while it allows media conglomerates to get even bigger. Sinclair, and the FCC, are taking us down a dangerous road.”
And encase you have not had you USDA of partisian rancor, Senior Kerry advisor Chad Clanton was just on Fox's Day Side where he made the following statement regarding Sinclair Broadcasting...
..."They better hope we don't win"...
Did'nt Kerry already try this crap with the Publishers of 'Unfit for Command'?
Darth Wong wrote:You know the problem with right-wingnuts? They've successfully changed the litmus test for an argument or news report from "subjectivity vs objectivity" to "liberal vs conservative".
That way, they can dismiss anything which is liberal as intrinsically "biased" and therefore wrong, even if it is logical and objective.
Well, from what I've seen from the report I'm reading so far, you can see this isn't the case.
The day pigs and ferrets start cross-breeding is the day I'll trust your analysis of someone else's objectivity and logic.
Once again: "subliminal liberal beliefs" such as?
Such as references to liberal think tanks as un-biased sources on topics of interest.[/quote]
In other words, they're referencing "liberal think tanks," so they must be wrong.
Damien Sorresso
"Ever see what them computa bitchez do to numbas? It ain't natural. Numbas ain't supposed to be code, they supposed to quantify shit."
- The Onion
Durandal wrote:The day pigs and ferrets start cross-breeding is the day I'll trust your analysis of someone else's objectivity and logic.
They're doing that in the labs! DONT PLAY GOD FOR GODS SAKE MAN!
"If scientists and inventors who develop disease cures and useful technologies don't get lifetime royalties, I'd like to know what fucking rationale you have for some guy getting lifetime royalties for writing an episode of Full House." - Mike Wong
"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944
POE News wrote:Democratic Party leaders are expected to file a Federal Election Commission complaint against Sinclair Broadcast Group Inc. Tuesday.
They charged that an anti-Kerry documentary the Baltimore-based station group plans to air would amount to an illegal contribution to the Bush campaign.
Sinclair -- which owns 62 TV stations and is the country’s largest station group in terms of number of stations -- plans to pre-empt regular programming during the week of Oct. 20 for a piece accusing John Kerry of demoralizing American prisoners of war held in Vietnam when he testified against the war in 1971.
Coumbia Spectator(op-ed about the book Bias, which is a large influence on the liberal media accusations)
The Daily Illinin(editorial citing some instances of media bias towards the right)
The media, all in all, is probably close to neutral. CNN has ties to the Dems; NBC and Fox are both closely connected to the Repubs. The one thing to remember is that while many hosts are liberal (with the exception of Fox, whose only liberal is Alan Colmes), the owners are nearly all major donors to the Republican party. And as we are seeing now, owners decide what goes on their station.
Stanley Hauerwas wrote:[W]hy is it that no one is angry at the inequality of income in this country? I mean, the inequality of income is unbelievable. Unbelievable. Why isn’t that ever an issue of politics? Because you don’t live in a democracy. You live in a plutocracy. Money rules.
First of all I don't think media can be called "Liberal" since the 1800's when the hoards of Yellow broadsheet journalists lead by William Randolf Hearst held information to the masses in his mighty vise grip. Since then journalistic integraty has fallen before the interests of the gatekeepers and "who owns the publishing/radio/Television franchise. The only real open and free journalistic area is the internet. Which is basically too open, as people will post humour as truth, and vice versa.
The scariest folk song lyrics are "My Boy Grew up to be just like me" from cats in the cradle by Harry Chapin
Now Sinclair's decision to order its 62 stations to carry a movie attacking Kerry's Vietnam record is drawing political fire -- not least from the Democratic National Committee, which plans to file a federal complaint today accusing the company of election-law violations. "Sinclair's owners aren't interested in news, they're interested in pro-Bush propaganda," said DNC Chairman Terry McAuliffe, whose complaint will accuse the firm of making an in-kind contribution to the Bush campaign.
It's telling, what the RNC did with Farenheit 9/11....which was......nothing.
Nice job trying to equate two entirely different situations. Fahrenheit 9/11 was a movie that people could pay to go see. This "Stolen Valor" crap is being passed off as "news" on the public airwaves to skirt federal election laws.
Damien Sorresso
"Ever see what them computa bitchez do to numbas? It ain't natural. Numbas ain't supposed to be code, they supposed to quantify shit."
- The Onion
