Organization systematicly destroyed voter registration forms

[Oberleutnant]

Ok, stupid question from a foreigner, but why don't you get automatically registered at birth (or when you become a citizen)? Over here, every citizen automatically gets mail telling us we can come vote there or there at this or that date for such and such persons.

You must be joking. What happens if someone steals that out of your mailbox? (Yes, they do that in the US. That's why we don't mail out free copies of a newborn's birth certificate to the parents anymore; they were being stolen and used to create fake id's.)

That's just bizarre. As far as I know, in most Europeans countries voting is in fact handled that way, and everything usually goes smoothly. You still need to show your ID when you arrive to the voting location, and in most cases you can vote even if you don't have that certificate with you. They just need to go through their records and see if your name is there.

Doesn't USA maintain a proper national registry of its citizens that includes everything from their health records to voting eligibility?

[MKSheppard]

Doesn't USA maintain a proper national registry of its citizens that includes everything from their health records to voting eligibility?

The only thing that even comes close is Social Security, and that's just
a string of numbers.

[frigidmagi]

It is not the government's responbility to see that you vote in the United States. It is the responbility of every citizen to ensure they are able and ready to vote.

[EmperorChrostas the Cruel]

Lord Sander. Theft occurs at every level.
Do these registration forms deliver them selves, directly from the printer?
Mail in MY country is delivered by people, that occasionaly get arested for stealing from their bags/trucks. In fact stealing the mail is more often the work of a postal employee than some crackhead that need money fast, so where it is delivered rarely afects theft rates.
Do you have force fields for your doors? Doors can be kicked in.

Besides, does your government track your every household move?
Unless yours does, how do they send you the RIGHT ballot?
If you are just on a list, and vote anywhere you want, what stops you from having multiple adresses, and IDS, and voting in all 5 of the cities you have houses in.

Oberleutenan.
"Doesn't USA maintain a proper national registry of its citizens that includes everything from their health records to voting eligibility? "

Not just no, but FUCK NO! The ONLY comprehencive database on almost all USA citizens is the social security/ income tax one.It doesn't matter where you are, to pay or be payed.

[Durandal]

Don't worry, folks. Those Republicans destroyed those forms for our own good and to protect us from ourselves.

[Darth Wong]

Besides, does your government track your every household move?

In Canada, yes. Every year you have to update your address information with the government when you file your tax return. Failure to provide accurate information is a federal offense. Voter registration is automatic based on this information, and it is your duty to inform the government if you have moved since you last updated your address with them or if your registration card didn't show up.

[Frank Hipper]

Doesn't USA maintain a proper national registry of its citizens that includes everything from their health records to voting eligibility?

The only thing that even comes close is Social Security, and that's just
a string of numbers.

The IRS watches us, Shep. They keep tabs (when interested, at least) on whether or not you're alive, where you live, who you work for, and whether you're registered to vote and where.

[Lord Sander]

Lord Sander. Theft occurs at every level.
Do these registration forms deliver them selves, directly from the printer?
Mail in MY country is delivered by people, that occasionaly get arested for stealing from their bags/trucks. In fact stealing the mail is more often the work of a postal employee than some crackhead that need money fast, so where it is delivered rarely afects theft rates.
Do you have force fields for your doors? Doors can be kicked in.

Well, if your form doesn't show up, you just phone the department that handles voting, and they send another one. You get it months ahead of time, so no worries.
And stealing it does you no good, you still have to show an ID when you get to the booth.

Besides, does your government track your every household move?

Yes, it does. How else would the gov know where to send your tax forms?

Unless yours does, how do they send you the RIGHT ballot?
If you are just on a list, and vote anywhere you want, what stops you from having multiple adresses, and IDS, and voting in all 5 of the cities you have houses in.

Generally the gov knows you own all those 5 houses

Oberleutenan.
"Doesn't USA maintain a proper national registry of its citizens that includes everything from their health records to voting eligibility? "

Not just no, but FUCK NO! The ONLY comprehencive database on almost all USA citizens is the social security/ income tax one.It doesn't matter where you are, to pay or be payed.

So how does the gov know where to send the bill if it doesn't know where you moved to?

[EmperorChrostas the Cruel]

Looks nervously over shoulder at Frank Hipper.

Are you one of them?

Sees postman delivering mail down the street. "I knew it, your WITH them, that's your backup!"

Runs gibbering away from imaginary conspiracy to contaminate his precious bodily fluids.


To Wong.
Very interesting. This would require a new data base, but I can see advantages of your system. In this specific case, I think you have the better system, but is it feasable with the larger population, and sellable to the taxpayers?

You probably have "racist" requirements like having a photo ID to vote, thus only the enterprising and diligent illegal aliens can vote!

Last minute addition.
LS, the government isn't involved in the health care industy in this county, so the Gov wouldn't be sending you any bills, the place that worked on you would. I can see where the government would be better at collecting though.

So there is no bill for the government ot send.

[salm]

Besides, does your government track your every household move?
Unless yours does, how do they send you the RIGHT ballot?
If you are just on a list, and vote anywhere you want, what stops you from having multiple adresses, and IDS, and voting in all 5 of the cities you have houses in.

here they track you, yes. if you have multiple adresses you´re required to declare the one where you spend the most time as pimary domicile.