Official Presidential Debate Commentary Thread III

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2004-10-13 10:18pm

Anyone think the left (right from our perspective) side of Bushs's mouth isn't working or something? Its like a Botux injection has been shot in....

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2004-10-13 10:18pm

Kerry quoting Scripture -- strange.

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2004-10-13 10:19pm

Oh look, just what I wanted to see. The canidates for President of the USA kowtowing to "God" and religion.

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2004-10-13 10:19pm

jegs2 wrote:Kerry quoting Scripture -- strange.

He did a very good job of it though. Mentioning the Koran and Native American religious beliefs and how they are equally important was a good move.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2004-10-13 10:20pm

...and faith without works is dead.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-10-13 10:20pm

(paraphrase) "I think people should worship as they see fit, or not worship at all, because they are part of America too."

*claps for Kerry*

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2004-10-13 10:22pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:(paraphrase) "I think people should worship as they see fit, or not worship at all, because they are part of America too."

*claps for Kerry*

Did you also notice Bush called it "The Almighty" and Kerry called it "A higher power"? You can tell right there who each is trying to get too with that.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2004-10-13 10:23pm

President Bush does get easily tongue-tied, does he not?

In comparison, Kerry is quite the smooth talker.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-10-13 10:24pm

The name bombs are dropped! Fire away!

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2004-10-13 10:24pm

Kudos to Bush on the light joke to the 'Strong Women' question. It was the first *and last* reponse with humor that worked.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2004-10-13 10:25pm

jegs2 wrote:President Bush does get easily tongue-tied, does he not?

In comparison, Kerry is quite the smooth talker.

If you listen carefully, you can tell that Kerry does occaisonally as well, but does an excellent job hiding it; making it seem intentional, maybe. Whereas Bush's pauses seem unnatural and sometimes silly.

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2004-10-13 10:26pm

Chris OFarrell wrote:Kudos to Bush on the light joke to the 'Strong Women' question. It was the first *and last* reponse with humor that worked.

I thought so too. Kerry then tried to do it himself and ended up just laughing at his own joke alone. Bush gets points for that.

Marksist · Post by **Marksist** » 2004-10-13 10:26pm

A clean sweep of debate victories for Kerry. Although I'd say this one was Kerry's weakest performance of the three.

Raven · Post by **Raven** » 2004-10-13 10:28pm

Kerry: "I don't care whether it's a Democrat idea or a Republican idea, as long as it's a good idea."

Scoring points with the moderates.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2004-10-13 10:28pm

Well, no surprise that. Did anyone not think (on the Right or Left) that Kerry wouldn't best the President in these debates. He's an accomplished debater and politician afterall...

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-10-13 10:30pm

I only saw the last 40 minutes or so. The debate seemed very lukewarm compared to the last two.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-10-13 10:31pm

Beware the... Armies of Compassion!

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2004-10-13 10:31pm

jegs2 wrote:Well, no surprise that. Did anyone not think (on the Right or Left) that Kerry wouldn't best the President in these debates. He's an accomplished debater and politician afterall...

Whenever Sean Hannity takes his mouth off Bush's cock called all three debates for Bush. I never doubt the sheer singlemindedness of partisans. Which reminds me - off to see Sean Hannity make an ass of himself

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2004-10-13 10:34pm

Alrighty then, who here will now be switching their vote in favor of one candidate or another based on these debates?

Anyone? Anyone?

Bueller?

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-10-13 10:34pm

Bush still the lost, but it was his best performence yet. I really wish Kerry had whipped out the knives and went for blood.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2004-10-13 10:36pm

Gentlemen, start your spinning!

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-10-13 10:38pm

They both played it safe, by all appearances. Not very interesting.

Raven · Post by **Raven** » 2004-10-13 10:39pm

Damm, and this was the only one I was able to see.

Marksist · Post by **Marksist** » 2004-10-13 10:41pm

Alrighty then, who here will now be switching their vote in favor of one candidate or another based on these debates?

Anyone? Anyone?

Bueller?

Jegs, I've noticed that in every debate thread, you post very nonchalantly about how meaningless the debates are, and that the only reason Bush didn't do well is because Kerry's such a "master debater" (

sorry for the cheap pun). Maybe Bush isn't doing so well because he has to spin such an abysmal record into something good?

And in case you haven't noticed the polls lately, it seems many people are changing their votes, or people that were on the fence have come towards John Kerry because of the debates.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2004-10-13 10:43pm

Marksist wrote:Jegs, I've noticed that in every debate thread, you post very nonchalantly about how meaningless the debates are, and that the only reason Bush didn't do well is because Kerry's such a "master debater" ( sorry for the cheap pun). Maybe Bush isn't doing so well because he has to spin such an abysmal record into something good?

Nah, he's a horrible debator and has piss-poor verbal communications skills.

Marksist wrote:And in case you haven't noticed the polls lately, it seems many people are changing their votes, or people that were on the fence have come towards John Kerry because of the debates.

Not as much as he should, but then one wonders what those "on the fence" voted in the last election. Dollars to donuts, it likely wasn't Bush.