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The following info and sites were provided to me bya member that wishes to remain incognito. I am interested in your opinions.

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REESE wrote:New Book Details Bush/Big Oil
Negotiations With Taliban
BEFORE WTC
By TOP_VIEW
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11-19-1


Fact: The WTC was bombed right AFTER Bush-Taliban oil pipeline talks soured.

The talks soured right AFTER Bush/Big Oil threatened Taliban to take their offer or receive a "carpet of bombs."

SPELLING IT OUT

Bush-Cheney/Big Oil and Afghanistan's Taliban negotiated for MONTHS over running a Caspian Sea oil pipeline through Afghanistan. Talks began in February and continued right on until only one MONTH before New York City's World Trade Center towers were demolished.

DURING the course of these negotiations, the two parties were unable to agree upon a deal, MAINLY because Bush/Big Oil agents constantly upped the ante on the rather naive Taliban representatives: playing intimidation, bait & switch, and "shell" games relentlessly. The Taliban negotiators, understandably, became distrustful of the entire process, and less and less confident they were being dealt with in good faith.

In the beginning of August, the Bush administration and its Big Oil cohorts delivered what amounted to an ultimatum to the Taliban.

The Taliban representatives were reportedly told by Bush/Big Oil: Accept our offer of "a carpet of gold or you'll get a carpet of bombs."

That's a DIRECT quote, according to French authors Jean-Charles Brisard and Guillaume Dasquie, who've just written a thoroughly-researched and heavily-documented book about the entire extraordinary business titled "Bin Laden: The Forbidden Truth"

ALSO revealed in the book is the fact that BUSH HIMSELF directly ordered the FBI and other U.S. law enforcement groups to BACK OFF on TERRORIST-RELATED INVESTIGATIONS while the oil pipeline negotiations were underway!

In FACT, the FBI's Deputy Director John O'Neill resigned in July in protest over this outrageous and intolerable obstruction.

And by the way: the whereabouts of one OSAMA BIN LADEN, then already firmly entrenched at the very top of the US's "most-wanted terrorist" list during the entire course of these pipeline negotiations, was NEVER an issue with the Bush cartel. Never ONCE were the Taliban urged to hand bin Laden over for all those OTHER horrendous crimes Feds maintain bin Laden has been charged with committing over the years.

And SO: barely a MONTH after the Bush administration sabotaged the negotiations with the Taliban regarding running the Caspian Sea oil pipeline through Afghanistan, the World Trade Center towers are bombed into oblivion, bringing about the currently ongoing UNDECLARED (and therefore illegal) "war on terrorism"...that just HAPPENS to be directed at the Taliban in Afghanistan.

The WTC was bombed -- according to Feds -- by the VERY SAME Osama bin Laden whom the very same Bush administration was so UNCONCERNED ABOUT during those JUST-WRECKED talks with the Taliban.

NO ONE but the bush administration and their Big Oil allies/accomplices -- not the Taliban, not the Palestinians, not ANY other nation whether Islamic or otherwise -- not any other group, agency, force or faction on Earth stood to "GAIN" from the destruction of the World Trade Center which occurred only ONE MONTH after talks between the Bush administration and the Taliban fell apart due to outrageous threats and intimidation by Bush/Big Oil "negotiators."

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Now the Taliban have been removed, Americans have lost even more freedom and liberty thanks to the 'Anti-Terrorism' Bill (passed by the House without even having READ the bill), and we can expect the pipeline project to get back on track soon. It is important to remember that the world's richest oil country, Saudi Arabia, has 30 billion barrels of proven oil reserves. The Caspian oil reserves are conservatively estimated to be 50 BILLON barrels. - ed.
And a map of the proposed pipeline
Incognito wrote:Another company with a vested interest in both war on Iraq and massively increased defense spending is the Carlyle Group. Carlyle, a private global investment firm with more than $12.5 billion in capital under management, was formed in 1987. Its interests are spread across 164 companies, including telecommunications firms and defense contractors. It is staffed at the highest levels by former members of the Reagan and Bush Sr. administrations. Former President George H. W. Bush is himself employed by Carlyle as a senior advisor, as is long-time Bush family advisor and former Secretary of State James Baker III.
One company acquired by Carlyle is United Defense, a weapons manufacturer based in Arlington, VA. United Defense provides the Defense Department with combat vehicle systems, fire support, combat support vehicle systems, weapons delivery systems, amphibious assault vehicles, combat support services and naval armaments. Specifically, United Defense manufactures the Bradley Fighting Vehicle, the M113 armored personnel carrier, the M88A2 Recovery Vehicle, the Grizzly, the M9 ACE, the Composite Armored Vehicle, the M6 Linebacker, the M7 BFIST, the Armored Gun System, the M4 Command and Control Vehicle, the Battle Command Vehicle, the Paladin, the Crusader, and Electric Gun/Pulse Power weapons technology.
In other words, everything a growing Defense Department, a war in Iraq, and a burgeoning American military empire needs.
Ironically, one group that won't profit from Carlyle's involvement in American military buildup is the family of Osama bin Laden. The bin Laden family fortune was amassed by Mohammed bin Laden, father of Osama, who built a multi-billion dollar construction empire through contracts with the Saudi government. The Saudi BinLaden Group, as this company is called, was heavily invested in Carlyle for years. Specifically, they were invested in Carlyle's Partners II Fund, which includes in that portfolio United Defense and other weapons manufacturers.
This relationship was described in a September 27, 2001 article in the Wall Street Journal entitled 'Bin Laden Family Could Profit From Jump in Defense Spending Due to Ties to US Bank.' The 'bank' in question was the Carlyle Group. A follow-up article published by the Journal on September 28 entitled ' Bin Laden Family Has Intricate Ties With Washington - Saudi Clan Has Had Access To Influential Republicans ' further describes the relationship. In October of 2001, Saudi BinLaden and Carlyle severed their relationship by mutual agreement. The timing is auspicious.
I'd provide the link to the last quote but it's her personal site. I suppose one could Google the article if you want.

Personally I'm not to sure what to think, how reliable is this Reese.com?
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Load of bullshit. Saying more then that is about as pointful as discussing the merits of the well researched books which claim the US goverment has built the worlds longest runway in Area 51 for aliens to land on.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:Load of bullshit. Saying more then that is about as pointful as discussing the merits of the well researched books which claim the US goverment has built the worlds longest runway in Area 51 for aliens to land on.


:lol: That's classic. I had my suspicions about the source but I have no way of evaluating whether Reese.com is reliable or not.
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I just noticed in the last article that United Defense is credited with producing the Armoured Gun System. Are they talking about the M8 (esentially a light tank) or the new Styker 105 varient? Because the Styrker varient is built by Detroit Diesel Division of General Motors, in Canada.
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NORTH KOREA PWNS ALL YOU AMERICAN FUCKERS!!!1111

Oh wait, that was the last "article" I saw by that site. Really reliable.
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Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:NORTH KOREA PWNS ALL YOU AMERICAN FUCKERS!!!1111

Oh wait, that was the last "article" I saw by that site. Really reliable.
Ah, you mean this one? :lol:
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Cpl Kendall wrote:I just noticed in the last article that United Defense is credited with producing the Armoured Gun System. Are they talking about the M8 (esentially a light tank) or the new Styker 105 varient? Because the Styrker varient is built by Detroit Diesel Division of General Motors, in Canada.
AGS refers to the XM8, Mobile Gun System or MGS refers to the 105mm Stryker. However three plants are building Strykers, and only one of them is in Canada. The others are the Lima tank plant, which is owned by the US goverment, in Ohio and General Dynamics is also building them at some plant in Anniston Alabama.
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