Trek Wars Fan Film

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-10-14 10:46pm

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-10-14 10:53pm

What are we looking for? A video link? Simple discussion? What? All I see is replies to some thread...

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-10-14 11:26pm

On the first page:

Just Started pre-production with a star trek, star wars film. Shooting begins sometime in the begining of spring, or late in the winter. wish us luck

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-10-14 11:31pm

Will someone with an account there please make a post emphasizing that he should DEFINITELY read stardestroyer.net/Empire? Someone else posted a link to st-v-sw.net- if he reads that, and goes by that, then this could be HORRIBLE. Make sure you point out that the author of stardestroyer.net refuted every arguement on st-v-sw.net as did several others.

Oh, and make sure you point out that crew members aren't killed by exploding bridge panels in Star Wars :p

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-10-15 12:06am

Praxis wrote:Will someone with an account there please make a post emphasizing that he should DEFINITELY read stardestroyer.net/Empire? Someone else posted a link to st-v-sw.net- if he reads that, and goes by that, then this could be HORRIBLE. Make sure you point out that the author of stardestroyer.net refuted every arguement on st-v-sw.net as did several others.

Oh, and make sure you point out that crew members aren't killed by exploding bridge panels in Star Wars :p

I did all that in my two posts there!

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2004-10-15 12:46am

Damn sounds boring to me if they use SD.net. Maybe you should give them a bit of room to make it interesting?

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-10-15 02:26am

Praxis wrote:Someone else posted a link to st-v-sw.net- if he reads that, and goes by that, then this could be HORRIBLE.

The film would be equally horrible if he went by SDN ideals as well. Who wants to watch a single ISD (or the Falcon even as some might have it) going around curb stomping virtually everything up to Q? Some might find Star Wars steam rolling over anything and everything in Star Trek entertaining, but that goes for just the opposite as well.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2004-10-15 02:31am

Someone already linked to SD.net.

JointStrikeFighter · Post by **JointStrikeFighter** » 2004-10-15 04:38am

I seem to remember someones fanfic the autor assumed that pound-for-pound the ships were equal so SW ships would win by virtue of being 10x more massive. If it was done this way i think the story could work out well.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-10-15 05:20am

JointStrikeFighter wrote:I seem to remember someones fanfic the autor assumed that pound-for-pound the ships were equal so SW ships would win by virtue of being 10x more massive. If it was done this way i think the story could work out well.

The ships aren't equal, though. But its up to the fan film creator whether or not he wants the story portrayed accurately.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-10-15 07:21am

Lord Poe wrote:
JointStrikeFighter wrote:I seem to remember someones fanfic the autor assumed that pound-for-pound the ships were equal so SW ships would win by virtue of being 10x more massive. If it was done this way i think the story could work out well.
The ships aren't equal, though. But its up to the fan film creator whether or not he wants the story portrayed accurately.

Honestly? An accurately portrayed story would be boring as hell. The fighter screen cleaning up Starfleet, leaving the main Imperial force unengaged to conduct BDZs wouldn't be much fun as a story at all.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-10-15 08:13am

JointStrikeFighter wrote:I seem to remember someones fanfic the autor assumed that pound-for-pound the ships were equal so SW ships would win by virtue of being 10x more massive. If it was done this way i think the story could work out well.

Yeah that' s a good balance of power. Imperial ships are more powerful but not inivincible.

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2004-10-15 09:06am

Rogue 9 wrote:
Lord Poe wrote:
JointStrikeFighter wrote:I seem to remember someones fanfic the autor assumed that pound-for-pound the ships were equal so SW ships would win by virtue of being 10x more massive. If it was done this way i think the story could work out well.
The ships aren't equal, though. But its up to the fan film creator whether or not he wants the story portrayed accurately.
Honestly? An accurately portrayed story would be boring as hell. The fighter screen cleaning up Starfleet, leaving the main Imperial force unengaged to conduct BDZs wouldn't be much fun as a story at all.

Why BDZ planets to useless rocks when your groundarmy is able to conquer their planets nearly unopposed

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-10-15 10:43pm

wautd wrote:Why BDZ planets to useless rocks when your groundarmy is able to conquer their planets nearly unopposed

It looks cool. Plus it makes a point.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-10-16 02:14am

I say it should be realistic, BUT Trek should find some technobabble solution to make their weapons more effective against Wars ships just to give them a chance.

BESIDES- For those of you who say realistic would be boring, haven't you read Mike Wong's Conquest? One of the best ever, AND it's realistic.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-10-16 04:23am

BESIDES- For those of you who say realistic would be boring, haven't you read Mike Wong's Conquest? One of the best ever, AND it's realistic.

Conquest went with pre ICS figures for Imperial weapons. Imperial ships in Conquest were more powerful then the Fed ships but not near invincible as in a pre ICS story like Starcrossed. To make a movie interesting to watch the Imperials need to be scaled down to Conquest level.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2004-10-16 08:47am

I tdepends both Conquest and Starcrossed have the Federation ass raped early on even with low firepower for the sake of story.

This guy may want actual a series battle or some sort...thus actually saying he should go realistic or not is pointless. Let him pick a level, let him know what he can use...in the end he will either create something enjoyable or a skit called "The Federation dies in 3000 seconds."

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-10-16 11:05am

Do something like my Fanfic (in terms of setting, I'm not saying my storyline is better than anyone elses). Basicly, the ships are at Conquest levels, *BUT* it is the Imperial REMNANT invading ST, and doing it behind the NR's back and during the Vong invasion (the part where the Vong was ignoring the Remnant). So the Empire doesn't have thousands of ISD's like they had in Conquest.

Utah Jak · Post by **Utah Jak** » 2004-10-16 11:20am

Praxis wrote:I say it should be realistic, BUT Trek should find some technobabble solution to make their weapons more effective against Wars ships just to give them a chance.

BESIDES- For those of you who say realistic would be boring, haven't you read Mike Wong's Conquest? One of the best ever, AND it's realistic.

If it is like Conquest, I'll check it out. However, if it is some trekie 'technobabble-always-wins' flick, I will be forced to break out the Rusty Tae Kwon Do. (which hasn't been used since before I started college)

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-10-16 02:29pm

Praxis wrote:I say it should be realistic, BUT Trek should find some technobabble solution to make their weapons more effective against Wars ships just to give them a chance.

No, that's exactly the kind of crap Trekkies tried to pull early on in debates. The funny thing is, actual Trek NEVER whines about such a caveat. Kirk' Enterprise vs the First Federation ship, Kirk's Enterprise vs the Doomsday Machine, etc.

Eleas · Post by **Eleas** » 2004-10-16 02:41pm

Lord Poe wrote:
Praxis wrote:I say it should be realistic, BUT Trek should find some technobabble solution to make their weapons more effective against Wars ships just to give them a chance.
No, that's exactly the kind of crap Trekkies tried to pull early on in debates. The funny thing is, actual Trek NEVER whines about such a caveat. Kirk' Enterprise vs the First Federation ship, Kirk's Enterprise vs the Doomsday Machine, etc.

...you do realise this project isn't a debate at all? That it's a movie?

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-10-16 04:48pm

Lord Poe wrote:
Praxis wrote:I say it should be realistic, BUT Trek should find some technobabble solution to make their weapons more effective against Wars ships just to give them a chance.
No, that's exactly the kind of crap Trekkies tried to pull early on in debates. The funny thing is, actual Trek NEVER whines about such a caveat. Kirk' Enterprise vs the First Federation ship, Kirk's Enterprise vs the Doomsday Machine, etc.

If Trek DOESN'T use technobabble, a single Star Destroyer can wipe out half the Federation.
I'm not saying technobabble to make them invincible, just technobabble to give them a chance, maybe bump them to Conquest level.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-10-16 04:55pm

Praxis wrote: If Trek DOESN'T use technobabble, a single Star Destroyer can wipe out half the Federation.

this is a bad thing, because, why?

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-10-16 05:04pm

Eleas wrote:...you do realise this project isn't a debate at all? That it's a movie?

Uh, yeah numbnuts...I started the thread...

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-10-16 05:06pm

Praxis wrote:If Trek DOESN'T use technobabble, a single Star Destroyer can wipe out half the Federation. I'm not saying technobabble to make them invincible, just technobabble to give them a chance, maybe bump them to Conquest level.

Technobabble doesn't have to involve a magical MaGuffin thatallows their weapons to suddenly be on par with a Star Destroyer. As I said, Kirk never relied on this to overcome far superior enemies.