The world's best browser

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-10-15 04:17am

http://members.optusnet.com.au/trenthop ... t/INET.zip

Here is a screen shot of the browser.

INET is a fast and simple, and small (75 KB) browser written by me. It was written in C++ and compiled with Visual c++ 6. Special thanks to Jenat-Lai who hosted it for me, the Kernel for hosting IT too, Ace Pace and Shroom Man 777 for beta testing it.

JointStrikeFighter · Post by **JointStrikeFighter** » 2004-10-15 04:20am

I think this browser works pretty good, not bad at all.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2004-10-15 04:23am

It's certainly very good for an amateur effort and works rather well. It's not as fast as Opera, though.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2004-10-15 04:28am

Not bad, wont replace firefox on my system but a 75k browser could come in very handy.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2004-10-15 04:30am

You're using MSHTML.DLL, aren't you...

bohemianfey · Post by **bohemianfey** » 2004-10-15 04:37am

Sorry, Firefox is still my love.

Jordie · Post by **Jordie** » 2004-10-15 05:04am

It's good. It works! But I wouldn't call it the world's best browser yet.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2004-10-15 06:49am

Its nice, reletivly fast, going to try it in my IE only sites.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2004-10-15 08:21am

It crashed and generated an error when I closed it.
Otherwise it worked, was quick.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-10-15 08:43am

Wait, is this a wrapper around MSHTML.DLL? Otherwise I couldn't imagine a browser so small.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-10-15 11:14am

Interesting, but how can it be so small and still have Java, the Flash plugin, Shockwave, etc?
Does it have Tab browsing? Popup blocking?
How about an Adblock Extension, or BugMeNot?

phongn wrote:Wait, is this a wrapper around MSHTML.DLL? Otherwise I couldn't imagine a browser so small.

If it is, then I'm sticking with FireFox for the 'World's Best Browser'.
Maybe that one can be 'World's Smallest Browser'.

Mad · Post by **Mad** » 2004-10-15 12:17pm

If it's using MSHTML.DLL, it'd still have the security holes present in it, wouldn't it?

That is, unless the library has some very specific functions that can be called, and only the safe ones are being called (thus not allowing things like ActiveX).

Datana · Post by **Datana** » 2004-10-15 12:54pm

I'd also guess an MSHTML.DLL wrapper. IEXPLORE.EXE itself is only 89 kB in Windows 2000, and definitely is a wrapper. For comparison, Opera, which is one of the smallest browsers on the market, is around 3 MB without Java support and 6 MB with. Still, a wrapper can do pretty well -- things like Avant greatly improve on the IE interface.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-10-16 03:51am

phongn wrote:Wait, is this a wrapper around MSHTML.DLL? Otherwise I couldn't imagine a browser so small.

It's a little bit different actualy. The program uses a class I based on the CHtlmview class to assist rendering HTML pages. CHtmlview itself is a MFC class. Normaly if one runs dependency walker on INET.EXE they will see only MFC42.dll and no link to MSHTLM.dll because the program did not link to it staticaly. However at runtime the MFC part of the program dynamicaly loads MSHTML.dll. Ace Pace reports that if SisSoftSandra is run MSHTML.dll can be detected at run time.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-10-16 04:26am

Seems to work very well, almost all the pages I loaded worked without a hitch. It won't replace Firefox, but it's a nice standalone browser.

The Silence and I · Post by **The Silence and I** » 2004-10-17 03:08am

I am extremely impressed; I am not terribly knowledgeable about programming, but it's size strikes me as tiny. I like the speed; it loads much faster than IE, which is good

What kind of security does it have? I noticed any pop-up blocking it may have is not water tight.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2004-10-17 03:13am

It's nice, but like I told you when you first talked about it, you should've based it off gecko. It's still a good browser though. Very minimalist. If I need something that'll fit on a floppy i'll remember this.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2004-10-17 03:27am

darthdavid wrote:It's nice, but like I told you when you first talked about it, you should've based it off gecko. It's still a good browser though. Very minimalist. If I need something that'll fit on a floppy i'll remember this.

He does most of his programming with the Microsoft Foundation Classes in C++, Gecko IIRC is written in C.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-10-17 03:42am

Crayz9000 wrote:
darthdavid wrote:It's nice, but like I told you when you first talked about it, you should've based it off gecko. It's still a good browser though. Very minimalist. If I need something that'll fit on a floppy i'll remember this.
He does most of his programming with the Microsoft Foundation Classes in C++, Gecko IIRC is written in C.

Hmm so Gecko uses the Win32 API ? Well I know that one too but usualy use MFC since I like OOP.

The Silence and I · Post by **The Silence and I** » 2004-10-17 03:53am

How's this browser's compatibility? My roommate tells me it uses Windows libraries to run, so I'm guessing it needs to be a windows OS; but aside from XP what will this run on, and does it need IE already installed to run?
EDIT: By the way, I'm using it right now, I like the minimalisim. Although it would be nice to have a way to open links in a new INET window--I default to IE when I open a link (maybe there is a way and I just missed it...

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Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2004-10-17 08:29am

The Silence and I wrote:How's this browser's compatibility? My roommate tells me it uses Windows libraries to run, so I'm guessing it needs to be a windows OS; but aside from XP what will this run on, and does it need IE already installed to run?
EDIT: By the way, I'm using it right now, I like the minimalisim. Although it would be nice to have a way to open links in a new INET window--I default to IE when I open a link (maybe there is a way and I just missed it... ).

If your using XP, go into Start, Programs, topp should have 'Set program acess and defaults' change it to INET in there.

Acording to Sandra, it uses MSHTML.DLL in a roundabout way, so I think its preety much limited to windows. I could be wrong.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-10-17 08:57am

The Shadow wrote:Hmm so Gecko uses the Win32 API ? Well I know that one too but usualy use MFC since I like OOP.

Gecko is platform-independant, but there are probably hooks for all kinds of interfaces.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2004-10-17 10:44am

There's an ActiveX control for Gecko, I believe.

Sokartawi · Post by **Sokartawi** » 2004-10-24 07:22am

It crashes on this page, just like IE:
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/tests/ie-freeze.html