Lord of the Gun

[Crazedwraith]

thrrp. in one of the books, Roland was in 20th century earth in a drug store when he was came upon by police. The policeman drew a gun, and while halfway delirious due to infection, and in an unfamiliar body, Roland still managed to outdraw the policeman, and fire the bullet into the barrel of the cop's gun. Didn't hurt the cop, but managed to disable him nicely despite all the handicaps at the time.

??? How does this apply to what I said? at all?

[General Zod]

thrrp. in one of the books, Roland was in 20th century earth in a drug store when he was came upon by police. The policeman drew a gun, and while halfway delirious due to infection, and in an unfamiliar body, Roland still managed to outdraw the policeman, and fire the bullet into the barrel of the cop's gun. Didn't hurt the cop, but managed to disable him nicely despite all the handicaps at the time.

??? How does this apply to what I said? at all?

admittedly, not alot now that i think about it. Though simply giving out percentages of how much someone's accuracy improves is fairly worthless without examples of their abilities in action. this on the other hand clearly demonstrates some of the feats roland's capable of, while percentages alone don't.

[Crazedwraith]

admittedly, not alot now that i think about it. Though simply giving out percentages of how much someone's accuracy improves is fairly worthless without examples of their abilities in action. this on the other hand clearly demonstrates some of the feats roland's capable of, while percentages alone don't.

The same could apply to the poetry, I quoted.

[General Zod]

admittedly, not alot now that i think about it. Though simply giving out percentages of how much someone's accuracy improves is fairly worthless without examples of their abilities in action. this on the other hand clearly demonstrates some of the feats roland's capable of, while percentages alone don't.

The same could apply to the poetry, I quoted.

while i actually gave a solid example of what roland was capable of.

[Crazedwraith]

Wel good for you, it's a pity this amazing roland isn't in the poll, isn't it?

[Bob the Gunslinger]

Wel good for you, it's a pity this amazing roland isn't in the poll, isn't it?

That's what we've been trying to tell you.

Now, please put him in the poll. You can use the space marked "neo."

[Ghost Rider]

Wel good for you, it's a pity this amazing roland isn't in the poll, isn't it?

Actually made a correction since the OP has the Gunslinger in his lists

So there we go..Roland.

[Bob the Gunslinger]

I can finally vote now. Yay!

[NeoGoomba]

Wel good for you, it's a pity this amazing roland isn't in the poll, isn't it?

Actually made a correction since the OP has the Gunslinger in his lists

So there we go..Roland.

I completely missed the fact that I didnt put him in the poll. Whoops

[Elheru Aran]

I saw "Equilibrium" tonight, and... damn! Preston is definitely kickass. I liked his nifty spring-loaded reloader gadget too (that he used in the bit where he walked into the room with 20+ baddies). When was the last time you actually saw someone pause and reload in the middle of a fight, huh? Not only did he reload with the clips, he did so again with the ones he threw into the room before he entered-- rolled and thwapped them right into the guns, without even looking...

I would definitely have to vote for him, as my knowledge of the rest (aside from Neo, who's mostly just a spray-and-pray character who's had the semi-uber-accuracy-o-doom flash-taught to him) is mostly hearsay.

Regarding the graze Preston had on his neck-- I figure that was either during the fight he had with "Father", or during the bit when he and Taye Diggs were going at each other with the real blades... a rather unnecessary scene, if you ask me-- they should've had Taye throwing down on Preston, and then a huge Matrix-esque fight sequence with the two Clerics bouncing off the walls and missing by bare millimeters... that'd have not only provided us with some mega-serious examples of Cleric capabilities, it would also have been so unbelievably totally kickass,....

(Incidentally, did not anybody find it somewhat odd that Dupont was apparently an expert of the Gun-Kata, since he was very nearly the equal of Preston in the slap-fight they had at the end of the movie? He's just the Vice-Council and the "Father"... a glorified bureaucrat...)

[CaptainChewbacca]

I saw "Equilibrium" tonight, and... damn! Preston is definitely kickass. I liked his nifty spring-loaded reloader gadget too (that he used in the bit where he walked into the room with 20+ baddies). When was the last time you actually saw someone pause and reload in the middle of a fight, huh? Not only did he reload with the clips, he did so again with the ones he threw into the room before he entered-- rolled and thwapped them right into the guns, without even looking...

I would definitely have to vote for him, as my knowledge of the rest (aside from Neo, who's mostly just a spray-and-pray character who's had the semi-uber-accuracy-o-doom flash-taught to him) is mostly hearsay.

Regarding the graze Preston had on his neck-- I figure that was either during the fight he had with "Father", or during the bit when he and Taye Diggs were going at each other with the real blades... a rather unnecessary scene, if you ask me-- they should've had Taye throwing down on Preston, and then a huge Matrix-esque fight sequence with the two Clerics bouncing off the walls and missing by bare millimeters... that'd have not only provided us with some mega-serious examples of Cleric capabilities, it would also have been so unbelievably totally kickass,....

(Incidentally, did not anybody find it somewhat odd that Dupont was apparently an expert of the Gun-Kata, since he was very nearly the equal of Preston in the slap-fight they had at the end of the movie? He's just the Vice-Council and the "Father"... a glorified bureaucrat...)

Two things:

First, the director had the fight with Diggs cut short like that because his thought is "you know he wins, and he has to fight the bad guy, so let's get to it."

Second, the guy who was father was the former high cleric of the tetragrammaton, or whatever Preston's job is. Not necessarily better, but he was a cleric also.

[The Yosemite Bear]

My attitude in reguards to equalibrium was that it's what would happen if Winton Smith was replaced with Chow Yun Fat....

[Crazedwraith]

Regarding the graze Preston had on his neck-- I figure that was either during the fight he had with "Father", or during the bit when he and Taye Diggs were going at each other with the real blades... a rather unnecessary scene, if you ask me-- they should've had Taye throwing down on Preston, and then a huge Matrix-esque fight sequence with the two Clerics bouncing off the walls and missing by bare millimeters... that'd have not only provided us with some mega-serious examples of Cleric capabilities, it would also have been so unbelievably totally kickass,....

As to the cut in the neck: listen to the directors commentary it was Bale's idea and not prt of the plan. Wimmer liked it and said it was done in the fight with father he just didn't have any money left to go and put in a shot of it...

[Sriad]

So's Vash the Stampede, the Humanoid Typhoon, but you don't see anyone giving a shit.

Remember, when you fight the best with a gun, come out on top and still don't kill anyone, you have to be good.

Oh, and consequences, Vash uses the Angel Arm willingly once, and once only. He can dodge bullets without actually looking like he's actively trying, and can redirect bullets through the use of pebbles.

In the opening post:
"No other quality they possess is taken into account, other than both their skill with the gun, and style with the gun."
From my point of view, this doesn't explicitly disqualify superhuman gunslingers, but it greatly complicates their inclusion since you think "well, what would they be like if they had to deal with normal people genetics?"

I'm in the process of reading the Dark Tower books, but I think I agree that it comes down to Roland and Preston.

[Bob the Gunslinger]

How do you like them?