Something I noticed for the first time about the Falcon

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Something I noticed for the first time about the Falcon

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.. it appears that the MF has a different angle of artificial gravity in the gunnery turrets than in the rest of the ship.

I honestly never noticed that before, then just yesterday I was watching the scene and it jumped out at me.. the shaft leading to the turrets had become a tunnel, from the perspective of the turrets.

Wow.. I like it. Cool.

Is this feature touched on anywhere in the various technical literature or the EU?
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Jean Paul wrote:Is this feature touched on anywhere in the various technical literature or the EU?
Yes, I believe several novels made note of the gravity difference as the characters climbed up or down the gun well. Can't remember off-hand which novels though.
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I've always noticed that they looked directly at each other, even though technically one was above the other...
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The same thing occurs with Slave 1, I believe. The ramp and the loading area/cargo hold leading to it is alligned top to bottom, but the cockpit and lower decks in the 'tail' section are alligned prow to stern. The typical design I've seen suggests there's a room behind the cockpit where you can step right onto the wall from the floor.
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Artificial gravity isn't fixed throughout the ship. It can re-orient especially considering ships with shuch unusual designs as Slave 1 which completely changes orientation in landing and flight modes.
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The usual in-universe explanation is that when in the turrets, you're basically lying on your back because the artifical gravity of the MF, oriented along its deck plane, pulls everything on the ship towards that plane. Ipso facto, it is entirely possible for Luke and Han to do that bit where they look at each other after Luke scores-- they're essentially sitting back-to-back.
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That is contradicted by the fact that one climbs down to the lower turret rather than up.
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Elheru Aran wrote:The usual in-universe explanation is that when in the turrets, you're basically lying on your back because the artifical gravity of the MF, oriented along its deck plane, pulls everything on the ship towards that plane. Ipso facto, it is entirely possible for Luke and Han to do that bit where they look at each other after Luke scores-- they're essentially sitting back-to-back.
Well, of course they're sitting back-to-back, that's what the movie shows as well as any diagram of the turret access tunnel. That wasn't ever contested.

And I have no idea where you came up with that 'in-universe' double-sided deck plane gravity from. If that occurred it'd make the repair scenes in Empire difficult with Han and Chewie entering compartments substantially above and below the main deck. The common explanation is the artificial gravity in there is alligned perpendicular to the rest of the ship. In other words, the camera is aligned with their gavity and Luke and Han are being pulled down in their seats.
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The ultimate proof that Elheru Aran's explanation is incorrect is the way in which the cable of Han's headphones hangs down. If EA's explanation were correct, it should hang towards the mouth of the tunnel (towards the main deck of the ship), but instead it hangs down relative to the seat and the rest of the things in the gun turret.
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Utsanomiko wrote:
Elheru Aran wrote:The usual in-universe explanation is that when in the turrets, you're basically lying on your back because the artifical gravity of the MF, oriented along its deck plane, pulls everything on the ship towards that plane. Ipso facto, it is entirely possible for Luke and Han to do that bit where they look at each other after Luke scores-- they're essentially sitting back-to-back.
Well, of course they're sitting back-to-back, that's what the movie shows as well as any diagram of the turret access tunnel. That wasn't ever contested.

And I have no idea where you came up with that 'in-universe' double-sided deck plane gravity from. If that occurred it'd make the repair scenes in Empire difficult with Han and Chewie entering compartments substantially above and below the main deck. The common explanation is the artificial gravity in there is alligned perpendicular to the rest of the ship. In other words, the camera is aligned with their gavity and Luke and Han are being pulled down in their seats.
Mm... I might've been a trifle hasty in saying it was the "in-universe" explanation. That's what I remember from the only place I ever saw an actual attempt to explain the MF's gravity, in one of the Lando Calrissian books from back in the '80s, by Brian Daley.

However, I would imagine that there's some limited flexibility where the gravity is concerned-- Lando took full advantage of this in the books, often temporarily turning off the gravity or whatever. I would imagine that the gun well gravity might have some slight customization in order to suit the individual gunners... and you know smugglers.... always modifying their ships... :wink:
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That's one of the things I always liked about the Star Wars movies, the little details that obviously had at least some thought put into them, but remain completely unremarked-upon in the movies themselves.
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