Weeks out of prison, attempts to rape 2yr old

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2004-10-22 04:36am

BBC News

Note how he had previously tried to rape a 91 year old...

salm · Post by **salm** » 2004-10-22 04:53am

yach, i hope he´s placed in a mental hospital for life after his 10 years of prison and held under medication strong enough to silence a bull.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2004-10-22 05:07am

You know, castration (even the Chinese kind with the removal of both the testicles and the penis) might not prevent him from reoffending, but can anyone think of an objection as to why it should not be performed in this case--particularly the Chinese kind? Anyone?

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2004-10-22 05:17am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:You know, castration (even the Chinese kind with the removal of both the testicles and the penis) might not prevent him from reoffending, but can anyone think of an objection as to why it should not be performed in this case--particularly the Chinese kind? Anyone?

Not a whisper would be spoken.

Bob the Gunslinger · Post by **Bob the Gunslinger** » 2004-10-22 05:24am

I have an objection: it's too messy.

Also too slow.

But I do like the Chinese method that uses a sledge hammer...We just need to make it last longer. Like maybe a ball-peen hammer? And have one of those "test your strength" bells that goes DING! when someone gets a good hit.

As for the mess...Why not cover the audience with clear plastic ponchos like at a Gallagher performance?

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2004-10-22 05:31am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:You know, castration (even the Chinese kind with the removal of both the testicles and the penis) might not prevent him from reoffending, but can anyone think of an objection as to why it should not be performed in this case--particularly the Chinese kind? Anyone?

You know we disagree on this issue, in that I think even evil bastard peadophiles are human with basic human rights.

But 10 years is just wrong. He's attempted two rapes and he'll be out by the time he's 30? Not good enough.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2004-10-22 05:41am

InnerBrat wrote:You know we disagree on this issue, in that I think even evil bastard peadophiles are human with basic human rights.

But 10 years is just wrong. He's attempted two rapes and he'll be out by the time he's 30? Not good enough.

Well, of course. Ideally he would now get life without the possibility of parole.

As for the other issue--I don't think that after a fair trial it can be argued that one has a human right to retain their sexual organs if the law mandates their removal for certain obscene crimes. A two-time convicted rapist making a third attempt would definitely fall under a category in which the surgical removal of the sexual organs, provided that is a mandated punishment following trial and conviction, is neither unfair nor prejudicial to his rights. One can have a far more normal life than he really deserves without them, after all.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2004-10-22 05:45am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote: As for the other issue--I don't think that after a fair trial it can be argued that one has a human right to retain their sexual organs if the law mandates their removal for certain obscene crimes. A two-time convicted rapist making a third attempt would definitely fall under a category in which the surgical removal of the sexual organs, provided that is a mandated punishment following trial and conviction, is neither unfair nor prejudicial to his rights. One can have a far more normal life than he really deserves without them, after all.

OK, but it's not a mandated punishment and I wouldn't supports it's mandate.

In this case, it's attempted in both cases. Fortunate for the victims, obviously, less fortunate in that attempted crimes carry lesser sentences.

("Attempted murder? What is that? Does one get a Nobel prize for attempted physics?")

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2004-10-22 05:51am

InnerBrat wrote:
In this case, it's attempted in both cases. Fortunate for the victims, obviously, less fortunate in that attempted crimes carry lesser sentences.

("Attempted murder? What is that? Does one get a Nobel prize for attempted physics?")

The problem is that the attempts demonstrate pretty obvious intent. It may be wrong to punish someone for what they think, but when they demonstrate intent with their actions, it should be dealt with.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-10-22 06:16am

I agree. 10 years is too low for a repeat offender like this. He should have got something like 20 - 30 years in prison.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2004-10-22 06:44am

Feh, a rapist who tries to rape a 91 year old and then a 2 year old after he gets out kinda disturbs me. Lock him up permanently.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2004-10-22 08:15am

Take this. Install razor blades and spikes all around it. Ram it up his ass day after day after day for the duration of his sentence.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2004-10-22 09:34am

Im confused, how did he get the child?

Put to bed in her room?

he broke into the house??

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2004-10-22 10:13am

Zac Naloen wrote:he broke into the house??

yep.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-10-22 10:29am

Don't cut off his penis ... cut off his arms.

brianeyci · Post by **brianeyci** » 2004-10-22 11:09am

Silly people. Better not to become the monster, or society will be doomed. Cut off testicles? Ugh.

Just lock him up for a very, very long time, and when time comes for parole, put a tracking device on him that shows where he is all the time -- perpetual house arrest.

I know, doesn't work in real life. But it doesn't mean that eventually it can't work -- I can't understand for the life of me why they don't force implant some sort of GPS chip into dangerous criminals, so they know where they are at all times. Cost and technology to overcome, but that should be the direction our society takes -- not an eye-for-an-eye or in some people's cases an arm-for-an-eye mentality.

Brian

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-10-22 11:14am

Does anyone have the info of how much it cost each year to jail a shitstain like that fucker?

Post by **fgalkin** » 2004-10-22 11:21am

brianeyci wrote:*Snip*
Brian

Not an eye for an eye or an arm for an eye. If we cut of his arms, or his testicles, he would not be able to rape again. We can then release him, and not spend money on tracking him down for the rest of his life.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Alex Moon · Post by **Alex Moon** » 2004-10-22 12:01pm

Just douse the fucker in gasoline and watch him die screaming.
Rapists don't deserve to be treated as human.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2004-10-22 12:12pm

Alex Moon wrote:Just douse the fucker in gasoline and watch him die screaming.
Rapists don't deserve to be treated as human.

Because it's a good idea to have a worse penalty for rape, which leaves a witness in the form of a victim behind then it is for murder which is easier to cover up, because...?

Please think things through.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-10-22 12:41pm

InnerBrat wrote:BBC News

Note how he had previously tried to rape a 91 year old...

Apparently he learned his lesson. Raping old people is bad.

Now he's going to go back to prison to learn that raping the exceedingly young is bad.

Then once more for middle-aged people.

Who says our corrective system doesn't work?

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-10-22 01:13pm

This is why we need to reinstitute gladatorial combat. The prison system would pay for itself, and the violent crimnals will not only suffer horibly, but will contribute to spociety through entertaining the populace.

Boyish-Tigerlilly · Post by **Boyish-Tigerlilly** » 2004-10-22 01:51pm

Not an eye for an eye or an arm for an eye. If we cut of his arms, or his testicles, he would not be able to rape again. We can then release him, and not spend money on tracking him down for the rest of his life.

How would he be function to society? He would just be a drain wouldn't he?Wouldn't there be some extra cost involved in keeping someone with either no arms or (perhaps) no legs? I wouldn't even want to let him go. He should get life in prison, but optimally, he should do something good for society when released.

If released, it shouldn't be alive. Kill him the cheapest way possible and then donate his body to science or harvest his organs for those who need them.

Would that be better than just torturing him, releasing him. But then again, for that to work, the appeals system would have to change.

Actually, I think anyone who gets life in prison or death penality should, when killed be of some use.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-10-22 06:39pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:This is why we need to reinstitute gladatorial combat. The prison system would pay for itself, and the violent crimnals will not only suffer horibly, but will contribute to spociety through entertaining the populace.

And we'll hear the liberals crying *Cruel & Unusual Punishment*

Post by **Beowulf** » 2004-10-22 07:10pm

Montcalm wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:This is why we need to reinstitute gladatorial combat. The prison system would pay for itself, and the violent crimnals will not only suffer horibly, but will contribute to spociety through entertaining the populace.
And we'll hear the liberals crying *Cruel & Unusual Punishment*

It wouldn't be unusual after being in place for a while...

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