Weeks out of prison, attempts to rape 2yr old

[Plekhanov]

You entire post is based around the flawed logic that if there is a death penalty for rape, then it's either convict and kill them or let them walk free.

Wrong, only the latter half of my post was based around the assumption that Shep was proposing one of his habitual “kill them all” type proposals, you can choose to assume that shep had in minds shades of grey when he suggested making rape a capital case it seems to me though that that would be out of character.

That isn't the case for US states with the death penalty for murder and it need not be the case for rape if the law was changed.

I’m well aware that the death penalty generally only applies to convicted murderers who just happen to be poor members of ethnic minorities. Unless a shep type ‘kill em all’ policy was introduced I suspect a remarkably similar pattern would establish itself for the rapists death row as well.

If their was a death penalty then it would probuabbly be an boom to convictions as alot of people would pled guility for life in prision rather then risk a trial and death.

Maybe for a few of the unfortunate defendants who get stuck with the most spectacularly incompetent publicly provided council this will happen but do you really think that any half arsed private attorney defending his client on a date rape case with no violence involved (and this is a very common form of rape) where the entire case depends upon the credibility of the victim and defendant is going to plea bargain?

[MKSheppard]

As far as I'm aware rape was only really a capital crime in the US if you were a black man suspected of raping a white woman (1930-67 a mere 455 rapists were executed in the US 90% of them black)

Link or cite to back this claim up?

Just out of interest Shep, do you propose the chair for the all rapists including the scumbag date rapists and drink spikers commit the vast majority of sexual assaults and who very rarely get convicted or is it just the stereotyped violent stranger rapists?

It's called a sliding scale. I propose upping the upper end of the scale
from "Life in Prison" as it currently is to "Death".

If you aren’t proposing it for all rapists why not?

Ah yes, slippery slope fallacies. OMG, SHEP WANTS TO GIVE THE
DEATH PENALTY TO ALL RAPISTS. Fuckwit.

Does it not concern you that your half assed, knee jerk proposal would not only encourage violent rapists to murder their victims

Except it won't. See, the sliding scale will be the same as it was
before, except with the maximum penalty raised to death, and it's up
to the prosecutor to decide which penalty to seek...

[Typhonis 1]

Ahem How long will this idiot last in the prison population once news of why he was convicted gets out?

[Plekhanov]

As far as I'm aware rape was only really a capital crime in the US if you were a black man suspected of raping a white woman (1930-67 a mere 455 rapists were executed in the US 90% of them black)

Link or cite to back this claim up?

1930-1967
From 1930, the first year for which statistics are readily available from the Bureau of Justice Statistics, to 1967, 3,859 persons were executed under civil (that is, nonmilitary) jurisdiction in the United States. During this period of nearly half a century, over half (54%) of those executed were black, 45 percent were white, and the remaning one percent were members of other racial groups -- American Indians (a total of 19 executed from 1930-1967), Filipino (13), Chinese (8, and Japanese (2). The vast majority of those executed were men; 32 women were executed from 1930 to 1967.
Three out of five executions during that period took place in the southern U.S. The state of Georgia had the highest number of executions during the period, totaling 366 -- more than nine percent of the national total. Texas followed with 297 executions; New York with 329; California with 292; and North Caroline with 263. Most executions -- 3,334 of 3,859 -- were for the crime of murder; 455 prisoners (12%) -- ninety percent of them black -- were executed for rape; 70 prisoners were executed for other offenses.

Just out of interest Shep, do you propose the chair for the all rapists including the scumbag date rapists and drink spikers commit the vast majority of sexual assaults and who very rarely get convicted or is it just the stereotyped violent stranger rapists?

It's called a sliding scale. I propose upping the upper end of the scale
from "Life in Prison" as it currently is to "Death".

And which rapists do you see as qualifying for the ‘upper end of the scale’? What will differentiates them from the other rapists?

If you aren’t proposing it for all rapists why not?

Ah yes, slippery slope fallacies. OMG, SHEP WANTS TO GIVE THE
DEATH PENALTY TO ALL RAPISTS. Fuckwit.

I asked a perfectly straightforward question, why don’t you try answering it rather than slinging abuse?

Does it not concern you that your half assed, knee jerk proposal would not only encourage violent rapists to murder their victims

Except it won't. See, the sliding scale will be the same as it was
before, except with the maximum penalty raised to death, and it's up
to the prosecutor to decide which penalty to seek...

And why will the presence of a sliding scale stop rapists from murdering their victims? Please do explain the logic (if any) behind your conclusion.

How will rapists know if they going to know if they’ll get a DA who likes to push for the death penalty or not? Some rapists will simply think its best to be on the safe side and kill the victim/witness because how do they know the prosecutor won’t go for the death penalty, which they would be able to under your proposal anyway, if they were caught, tried and convicted for rape. Don't you realise that being caught, tried and convicted and executed will seem more likely in many rapists minds if there’s someone (the victim) who will report the crime, give a description of, identify and then give evidence against the rapist?

Just face it your proposal, sliding scale or not, will lead to the unnecessary deaths of rape victims who would otherwise have been left alive.

[Rogue 9]

Ahem How long will this idiot last in the prison population once news of why he was convicted gets out?

Not long at all.

[Imperial Overlord]

While I think that child rapers are the scum of the earth. . . . .

Remember all those child abuse witch hunts in the 80s? Some of those sentences are still being overturned. You can't undo a death sentence.