An investigation by The Washington Times reveals that while the candidate did talk for an unspecified period to at least a few members of the panel, no such meeting, as described by Mr. Kerry on a number of occasions over the past year, ever occurred.
He did actually meet with some of the Security Council, so it looks more like he did what he already is known for - being legendarily obscure except when making policy promises in debate- and spun his meeting. Not a complete lie, but not the truth, either. Just Spin.
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Darth Wong wrote:Damn that liberal media, always covering up for Democrats while attacking Republicans.
The Washington Times is by no way "liberal" Perhaps you are
thinking of the New York Times.
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He might be thinking of the Washington POST rather then the Times...
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Darth Wong wrote:Damn that liberal media, always covering up for Democrats while attacking Republicans.
The Washington Times is by no way "liberal" Perhaps you are
thinking of the New York Times.
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The Washington Times is by no way "liberal" Perhaps you are
thinking of the New York Times.
Humour... It is a difficult concept.
Perhaps his point flew over your head. When conservatives refer to the liberal media, they aren't generally reffering to the Washington Times.
Apparently the original point sailed over both your heads. This isn't new(Shep is remarkably resilient against non-nuke humour, and you're just a fucking dumbass).
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Patrick Degan wrote:
Humour... It is a difficult concept.
Perhaps his point flew over your head. When conservatives refer to the liberal media, they aren't generally reffering to the Washington Times.
Apparently the original point sailed over both your heads. This isn't new(Shep is remarkably resilient against non-nuke humour, and you're just a fucking dumbass).
And what a intelligent and non-discreet way to start yourself and free flame wankfest.
Talon Karrde wrote:And what a intelligent and non-discreet way to start yourself and free flame wankfest.
You're so cute. 'MUST.. NOT.. ADMIT.. I.. DIDN'T.. GET.. IT..' Is there a Book On Tape for you drones?
Care to actually read the thread. The editorial in question calls Kerry a liar. It comes from the Washington Times, already known to be conservative leaning. Mike makes a sarcasting comment about the "liberal media", while he conveniently makes this sarcastic attack ignoring the fact that even conservatives acknoweledge the Washington Times is conservative. Shep calls him on it, and Degan thinks that the humor overrides the point made by Shep. Let's connect the dots here: Mike tried to make a reference that doesn't have anything to do with the newspaper in question, and when called on it, is immediately defended by his liberal robot followers.
Talon Karrde wrote:And what a intelligent and non-discreet way to start yourself and free flame wankfest.
You're so cute. 'MUST.. NOT.. ADMIT.. I.. DIDN'T.. GET.. IT..' Is there a Book On Tape for you drones?
Care to actually read the thread. The editorial in question calls Kerry a liar. It comes from the Washington Times, already known to be conservative leaning. Mike makes a sarcasting comment about the "liberal media", while he conveniently makes this sarcastic attack ignoring the fact that even conservatives acknoweledge the Washington Times is conservative. Shep calls him on it, and Degan thinks that the humor overrides the point made by Shep. Let's connect the dots here: Mike tried to make a reference that doesn't have anything to do with the newspaper in question, and when called on it, is immediately defended by his liberal robot followers.
You know, the point is gone. It flew over your head posts ago. You just can't admit it. I'll walk you through it. Gently.
A newspaper(Which you and your fellow Republidrones would have us beleive are OUTRAGEOUSLY Leftist) skewers Kerry's mistakes. Patrick posts a comment about the Liberal Media covering up for the Democrats and attacking the Republicans. This is called irony, as while this is a claim I've seen made by Republicans quite a bit, this is an obvious case of even the fabled Leftist bastion the Print media are savaging a Demcorat and not touching a Republican.
Maybe when you're past mental puberty you'll get such advanced forms of humour. It took my cousin at least until she was nine.
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Talon Karrde wrote:It comes from the Washington Times, already known to be conservative leaning. Mike makes a sarcasting comment about the "liberal media" ...
Let me explain this for you, very slowly: if you can generalize that newspapers "lean left" as the right-wingers keep saying, then why is there a major newspaper leaning drastically the other way? You honestly don't see the point of the sarcasm?
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Talon Karrde wrote:It comes from the Washington Times, already known to be conservative leaning. Mike makes a sarcasting comment about the "liberal media" ...
Let me explain this for you, very slowly: if you can generalize that newspapers "lean left" as the right-wingers keep saying, then why is there a major newspaper leaning drastically the other way? You honestly don't see the point of the sarcasm?
If you honestly think one newspaper speaks for the greater whole, I've understimated you, if that's possible.
Talon Karrde wrote:It comes from the Washington Times, already known to be conservative leaning. Mike makes a sarcasting comment about the "liberal media" ...
Let me explain this for you, very slowly: if you can generalize that newspapers "lean left" as the right-wingers keep saying, then why is there a major newspaper leaning drastically the other way? You honestly don't see the point of the sarcasm?
If you honestly think one newspaper speaks for the greater whole, I've understimated you, if that's possible.
Must be nice to be able to make "liberal newspaper" generalizations without being fazed at all by major exceptions to your rule, and then foisting the burden of proof onto he who would question your generalization.
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Darth Wong wrote:
Let me explain this for you, very slowly: if you can generalize that newspapers "lean left" as the right-wingers keep saying, then why is there a major newspaper leaning drastically the other way? You honestly don't see the point of the sarcasm?
If you honestly think one newspaper speaks for the greater whole, I've understimated you, if that's possible.
Must be nice to be able to make "liberal newspaper" generalizations without being fazed at all by major exceptions to your rule, and then foisting the burden of proof onto he who would question your generalization.
Notice the fucking irony here Mike. Here you are again on the other side, demanding proof, but when you are on the defense, you never need proof. Ah, but the irony will be ignored by you and the rest of your drones, so what does it really matter?
I suppose papers like the New Yourk Times, Chicago Sun-Times, etc. have moderate to conservative editors in your opinion? You'll have to allow me to laugh for a moment if you truly want me to believe this.
Talon Karrde wrote:I suppose papers like the New Yourk Times, Chicago Sun-Times, etc. have moderate to conservative editors in your opinion? You'll have to allow me to laugh for a moment if you truly want me to believe this.
No doubt the irony of publicly mocking a statement based on one major newspaper by using just TWO major newspapers as evidence for a sweeping generalization the other way does not occur to imbeciles such as yourself. Not to mention the fact that you are now resorting to unsupported "your debate tactics are unfair" accusations in every post you make now, regardless of whether any particular burden-of-proof statement is logically justified. I imagine you still don't understand why you've been classified a troll; if your objective was to make Bush supporters look stupid, you've succeeded brilliantly. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
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"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
If not, then it's just one more example of Kerry's bullshitting, as meeting with 'a few' countries isn't meeting with 'the entire Security Council'.
Kerry's looking like just as bad a liar as GWB is given this and his BS on other issues.
If the facts are wrong, then the Moonies need to go back to journalism school.
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Yeah, and the Times isn't exactly an unimpeachable source.
However the attributed quotes from named sources should make it easy for other reporters to follow up on.
We'll see.
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