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Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2004-10-18 04:46pm

The "It had to be as cool as, if not cooler than the Falcon" line cracked me up. It reminded me of some universe where the winner of space battles would be determined by which side had cooler-looking ships.

"Oh, shit! he put a superflous pair of fins on the back of his ship! I'm finished for good!"

Utsanomiko · Post by **Utsanomiko** » 2004-10-18 05:49pm

Kuja wrote:
TIE Decimator
Theycall that thing a TIE?:wtf:

No, they aren't. It's only referred to as a VT49 Decimator. Calling it a TIE is an individual mistake.

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2004-10-19 05:09am

"TIE" was in quotes for the VT49 because while IGN.com called it a "TIE", it didn't seem to fit the nomenclature. I was just using their words cautiously.

The problem isn't the name, the problem is them unnecessarily inventing "new" ships when there are ALREADY ships that do the exact same thing in the existing continuity. This has just taken things to a ludicrous level. I thought the TIE Crawler was bad...

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-10-19 05:35pm

Cyborg Stan wrote:TIE Oppressor, Aggressor, Decimator? Why would anybody decide to name fighters like that? What's next, "I am a Bad Guy" bumper stickers as a requirement? Or maybe the "TIE Rapist"?

FUQ!

Butterbean569 · Post by **Butterbean569** » 2004-10-19 07:21pm

I'm in the Beta (so I can't say much), but from what I've seen so far this game will beat everyone's expectations. Now those expectations are very low....but this game is pretty damn fun in the *beta*. We'll just have to see how it plays when it comes out

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2004-10-20 12:13am

TIE hunters pissed me off too(RE3), there is plenty of TIE designs already out there, why must you make poorly thought out ones?(TIE Hunter was basicly a weak ass X-Wing with a little better turning and ion cannons, bah)

Tech^salvager · Post by **Tech^salvager** » 2004-10-20 01:25am

My favorite TIE is still the plain old TIE Fighter. This Reminds me of TIE Fighter the game. twas awesome game!

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2004-10-21 12:14am

I was told but I didn't believe. Anyone need a job? Looks like Galaxies needs you!!!

Galaxies Job Offer

Utsanomiko · Post by **Utsanomiko** » 2004-10-27 03:39am

Interesting Starship update: apparently they did in fact include the Firespray patrol ship.

*Reads description*

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

Sony's webpage on the Firespray, featuring three whole paragraphs of overwordy, made-up, contradictory bullshit that could have been replaced with a much more official and simple explanation like "it's rare because they're not made by KSE anymore", plus the most indirect Boba Fett-wanking I have ever seen implied, as they apparently talk about him the whole damn time but wait untill they can say his name at the very end, flamboyantly preceeded by - a goddamn hyphen.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-10-27 03:51am

Although the original design was generated a number of years earlier, the prototype vessels built at that time were all lost in the hangar where they were being stored during an unfortunate prison escape incident. A sole ship survived the catastrophe and the design has since attained some notoriety owing to the escapades of its pilot.

There have been other Firesprays documented. Too bad, so sad.

Rather than building to contract, KSE had generated the Firespray design as a project to shop around and had fronted all the cash for the prototypes, confident that once people had seen their performance purchase orders would come rolling in. Instead, the loss of the prototypes put the company in financial dire straights with nothing concrete to show for the Firespray project, and no way to generate interest in the product through demonstrations. Having already drained accounts originally stocked by a huge initial financial outlay, KSE mothballed the project and everything that had been built so far, including reams of technical data and all of the specialized tools used to build the prototype vessels.

The Firespray project backrupted fuggin' Kuat?!? You have got to be kidding me!

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2004-10-27 03:53am

Yeah, well, I've been hearing that Lucasarts is yanking control of Galaxies away from Sony and are going to manage it in-house, or something. Apparently, Sony's been deliberately running it into the ground to make less competition for Everquest II.

That's the rumor, anyway. Anybody got confirmation?

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-10-27 03:59am

SPOOFE wrote:Yeah, well, I've been hearing that Lucasarts is yanking control of Galaxies away from Sony and are going to manage it in-house, or something. Apparently, Sony's been deliberately running it into the ground to make less competition for Everquest II.

Good. Someone please tell me that their info on the ships is noncanon...

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-10-27 05:09am

The Firespray project backrupted fuggin' Kuat?!? You have got to be kidding me!

Kuat Systems Engineering != Kuat Drive Yards. For what it's worth. It's still stupid.

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2004-10-27 05:18am

Oh for the love of...

Whats next.

TIE Kill the Gunguns ?
TIE I Pull Wings Off Insects ?

"Sir, we have a new contact, unknown fighers inbound".
"And?"
"My GOD sir, its amazing. It is a REALY evil name and.... *zoom in on face* SEVEN TIE WINGS!"

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-10-27 05:52am

Chris OFarrell wrote:Oh for the love of...

Whats next.

TIE Kill the Gunguns ?
TIE I Pull Wings Off Insects ?

"Sir, we have a new contact, unknown fighers inbound".
"And?"
"My GOD sir, its amazing. It is a REALY evil name and.... *zoom in on face* SEVEN TIE WINGS!"

Yup- it's well known the EU in general has fuck-all imagination. Just look at the proliferation of stupid looking -Wing fighters.

Post by **Kuja** » 2004-10-27 10:44am

Rogue 9 wrote:The Firespray project backrupted fuggin' Kuat?!? You have got to be kidding me!

Welcome to the EU, where the loss of 3-4 capital ships can set your campaign schedule back by years.

Crazy Goji · Post by **Crazy Goji** » 2004-10-27 11:07am

I had a friggin' nightmare last night. There was this strange spaceship flying around the sky and it lands on the street adjacent to mine.

The spaceship of my nightmare looks exactly like the TIE Aggressor.

Meh, either way I'm getting the space expansion. Probably go Freelance.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-10-27 11:12am

*looks at Decimator*

What a piece of junk!

I can't believe these guys. "Cooler than the Falcon?" Reminds me of when one of the B&B twins said that Shinzon would rival Kahn.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-10-27 12:00pm

Chris OFarrell wrote:Oh for the love of...

Whats next.

TIE Kill the Gunguns ?
TIE I Pull Wings Off Insects ?

"Sir, we have a new contact, unknown fighers inbound".
"And?"
"My GOD sir, its amazing. It is a REALY evil name and.... *zoom in on face* SEVEN TIE WINGS!"

TIE Rapist has already been suggested.

tim grail 3 · Post by **tim grail 3** » 2004-10-28 08:57am

SPOOFE wrote:
What's next, "I am a Bad Guy" bumper stickers as a requirement? Or maybe the "TIE Rapist"?
TIE Pedophile?

TIE Fascist?

TIE Carrot Top?

TIE Personal Injury Trial Lawyer

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-10-28 10:59am

I hate this brainbug about standard TIE fighters being crappy. It's a pure EU invention (if one must rationalize it with SoD, it would be New Republic propaganda) and no one who watched the Battle of Yavin would come away with that impression if it wasn't so carefully fostered by fanboys. If you made the Battle of Yavin the way these idiots would have it, the TIE fighters would have outnumbered the Rebel fighters by about 50 to 1, and it would have taken at least a half-dozen hits for a TIE figher to take down an X-wing.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2004-10-28 09:58pm

I'm glad someone came out and said it. The X-Wings were getting popped themselves. The shields just afforded an extra hit or two.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-10-28 10:03pm

Cal Wright wrote:I'm glad someone came out and said it. The X-Wings were getting popped themselves. The shields just afforded an extra hit or two.

If that. Some of them seemed to take on hit and die. The Y-wings got massively p0wned, too.

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2004-10-29 01:00am

Again, it probably came from the RPG, which was really a nice pile of Rebel wank.

These games need to focus on giving the Rebels an advantage in subterfuge and guerilla warfare, not a one-on-one numerical force. Rebs should have infiltration... maybe pose as an Imperial gaining access to the academy or something.

Alan Bolte · Post by **Alan Bolte** » 2004-10-29 01:14am

Darth Wong wrote:I hate this brainbug about standard TIE fighters being crappy. It's a pure EU invention (if one must rationalize it with SoD, it would be New Republic propaganda) and no one who watched the Battle of Yavin would come away with that impression if it wasn't so carefully fostered by fanboys. If you made the Battle of Yavin the way these idiots would have it, the TIE fighters would have outnumbered the Rebel fighters by about 50 to 1, and it would have taken at least a half-dozen hits for a TIE figher to take down an X-wing.

Half-dozen? You've obviously not played the various incarnations of the BoY. 6 is way-low. 10 maybe if we're talking TL hits. 50 to one sounds about right for the standard TIEs, but you're forgetting the TIE/Adv squads. Of course, then there's the trench run, with the dozens of gun towers and random structures you have to maneuver around. At a constant 100 m/s, of course.