Iceberg wrote:What do you really stand for, Ice? 'Cause you sound exactly like the kind of people you call your enemy.
I don't have a whole lot of heart for people who have decided to classify me as an enemy to the American Way of Life, dumbass. If you don't like that, tough shit, start treating your fellow citizens like fellow citizens and not like Enemies of the State. The utter conservative silence in condemning shit journalism (accompanied by vociferous praise from certain circles on books like Treason (Ann Coulter) and Deliver Us From Evil: Defeating Terrorism, Despotism and Liberalism (Sean Hannity)) is appalling and very very chilling. If you want your side to start looking nicer, do your fucking laundry.
DId you just forget all of the Lefts little slime books.. or do need the list.. Christ ,Iceberg the Far left and the Far Right are both just as bad...
Go spend some time at DU or P4C[/quote]
Oh for fuck's sake...
Let's just compare titles. This is just a TITLE comparison, not even cracking the books.
Left: Bushwhacked: Life in George W. Bush's America (Molly Ivins) Big Lies: The Right Wing Propaganda Machine and How It Distorts the Truth (Joe Conason) Lies and the Lying Liars who Tell Them (Al Franken) The Daily Show With Jon Stewart Presents America (The Book): A Citizen's Guide to Democracy Inaction
(please note that Lies and America (The Book) are primarily satire, the latter essentially an American equivalent of 1066 And All That)
Right: Treason: Liberal Treachery From The Cold War to the War on Terrorism (Ann Coulter) Deliver Us From Evil: Defeating Terrorism, Despotism and Liberalism (Sean Hannity) If It's Not Close, They Can't Cheat: Crushing the Democrats in Every Election and Why Your Life Depends On It (Hugh Hewitt)
So, do you want to even TRY to assert that the list of left-wing books even comes CLOSE to spewing the same amount of bile as the right-wing ones?
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Glocksman wrote:And for those who don't know, there is one true statement in that flyer. The time for registering to vote has indeed passed. If you're not registered by now, it's too late.
So actually....there are no true statement in that flyer.
Iceberg wrote:What do you really stand for, Ice? 'Cause you sound exactly like the kind of people you call your enemy.
I don't have a whole lot of heart for people who have decided to classify me as an enemy to the American Way of Life, dumbass. If you don't like that, tough shit, start treating your fellow citizens like fellow citizens and not like Enemies of the State. The utter conservative silence in condemning shit journalism (accompanied by vociferous praise from certain circles on books like Treason (Ann Coulter) and Deliver Us From Evil: Defeating Terrorism, Despotism and Liberalism (Sean Hannity)) is appalling and very very chilling. If you want your side to start looking nicer, do your fucking laundry.
DId you just forget all of the Lefts little slime books.. or do need the list.. Christ ,Iceberg the Far left and the Far Right are both just as bad...
Go spend some time at DU or P4C
Oh for fuck's sake...
Let's just compare titles. This is just a TITLE comparison, not even cracking the books.
Left: Bushwhacked: Life in George W. Bush's America (Molly Ivins) Big Lies: The Right Wing Propaganda Machine and How It Distorts the Truth (Joe Conason) Lies and the Lying Liars who Tell Them (Al Franken) The Daily Show With Jon Stewart Presents America (The Book): A Citizen's Guide to Democracy Inaction
(please note that Lies and America (The Book) are primarily satire, the latter essentially an American equivalent of 1066 And All That)
Right: Treason: Liberal Treachery From The Cold War to the War on Terrorism (Ann Coulter) Deliver Us From Evil: Defeating Terrorism, Despotism and Liberalism (Sean Hannity) If It's Not Close, They Can't Cheat: Crushing the Democrats in Every Election and Why Your Life Depends On It (Hugh Hewitt)
So, do you want to even TRY to assert that the list of left-wing books even comes CLOSE to spewing the same amount of bile as the right-wing ones?[/quote]
Maybe this will jog your mind
But be not misled. Bush bashing is so in vogue these days among the liberal and leftist literati that it constitutes a genre. Indeed, anti-Bush polemics warrant their own section in some bookstores. And the books keep rolling off the presses. Let’s take a look at a few of them.
The Three Little Pigs: Buy the White House (Dan Piraro)
Worse than Watergate: the Secret Presidency of George Bush (John Dean)
The Lies of George W. Bush: Mastering the Politics of Deception (David Corn)
Is Our Children Learning: The Case against George W. Bush (Paul Begala)
Big Bush Lies: the 20 most telling lies of George W. Bush (Jerry Barrett)
Warrior King: The Case for Impeaching George Bush (John Bonifaz)
The I Hate George Bush Reader: Why Dubya is Wrong About Absolutely Everything (Clint Willis)
American Dynasty: Aristocracy, Fortune and the Politics of Deceit in the House of Bush (Kevin Phillips)
Imperial Hubris, Anonymous
Obliviously On He Sales: The Bush Administration in Rhyme, Calvin Trillin
The Price of Loyalty: George W. Bush, the White House and the Education of Paul O’Neill (Suskind)
Bushwhacked: Life in George Bush’s America (Molly Ivins)
The Dirty Truth: the Oil and Chemical Dependency of George W. Bush (Rick Abraham).
The President of Good and Evil: The Ethics of George W. Bush (Peter Singer)
Crimes Against Nature: How George W. Bush and His Corporate Pals Are Plundering the Country and Hijacking Our Democracy (Robert Kennedy Jr.)
Cruel and Unusual: Bush and Cheney’s New World Order (Mark Crispin Miller)
The Book on Bush: How George W. Bush is (Mis)leading America (Eric Alterman and Mark Green)
The Bush Hater’s Handbook: A Guide to the Most Appalling Presidency in the Past 100 years (Jack Huberman)
Lies and the Lying Liars who Tell Them (Al Franken)
Dude, Where’s My Country (Michael Moore)
Dreaming War: Blood for Oil and the Cheney/Bush Junta (Gore Vidal)
Why are We At War (Norman Mailer)
Against All Enemies: Inside America’ War on Terror (Richard Clarke)
Fanatics and Fools: The Game Plan for Winning Back America (Ariana Huffington)
The Five Biggest Lies Bush Told Us About Iraq (Chrstopher Scheer, Robert Scheer and Lakshmi Chaudhry)
Bushworld: Enter at Your Own Risk (Maureen Dowd)
Gag Rule: On the Suppression of Dissent and The Stifling of Democracy (Lewis Lapham)
Hegemony or Survival (Noam Chomsky
Sudden power is apt to be insolent, sudden liberty saucy; that behaves best which has grown gradually.
Like I said, I went by my state's laws, which have no provision for registering on election day.
Mea Culpa.
As far as the flyer itself goes, both parties have a long history of dirty tricks at election time. Read Larry Sabato's Dirty Little Secrets:The Resurgence of Corruption in American Politics for more information.
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Glocksman wrote:And for those who don't know, there is one true statement in that flyer. The time for registering to vote has indeed passed. If you're not registered by now, it's too late.
So actually....there are no true statement in that flyer.
Depends on the state. It may be true in Illinois.
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Fire Fly wrote:True but the said flyer says "Milwaukee Black Voters League" and Milwaukee is in Wisconsin.
Might have helped if I had referenced the flier... D'oh.
"preemptive killing of cops might not be such a bad idea from a personal saftey[sic] standpoint..." --Keevan Colton
"There's a word for bias you can't see: Yours." -- William Saletan
Judging by the looks of the pamphlet (Pretty much anyone could have made something similar with Microsoft Word and fifteen minutes to spare), I'm thinking that it was sent out by some cracker who thinks that it would actually keep blacks away from the polls.
And, I'd find it pretty ironic if, after all of this, the blacks they keep away from the polls happen to be the few that vote Republican.
Ski, I'm not entirely sure where you're trying to go with that list, except to confirm that President Bush is nothing but a blank sockpuppet on which conservatives are encouraged to project idealized images of themselves.
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I'm not sure how it works in other states but I personally think the way Wisconsin registers voters is an actual true democracy, one other states should adpot. If you forget to register by a certain time, you can't voice your opinon by voting and thus are pretty much discarded. However, Wisconsin state law says that you are not required to register prior to the actual voting process. All you need to do to register is provide proof of citizenship+age and proof of state residency by providing a bill envelope of some sort (or something similar) and fill out a 5 minute form then you are officially registered. If you forget to register, you can register later and still voice your opinon by voting.
Iceberg wrote:Ski, I'm not entirely sure where you're trying to go with that list, except to confirm that President Bush is nothing but a blank sockpuppet on which conservatives are encouraged to project idealized images of themselves.
He seems to think the idea liberals are evil, anti-american, terrorist loving scum that need to be wiped out to protect the american way of life...is in some way comperable to disliking the policies and actions of a specific individual...
In other words, theski, is a stupid cunt.
"Prodesse Non Nocere." "It's all about popularity really, if your invisible friend that tells you to invade places is called Napoleon, you're a loony, if he's called Jesus then you're the president." "I'd drive more people insane, but I'd have to double back and pick them up first..." "All it takes for bullshit to thrive is for rational men to do nothing." - Kevin Farrell, B.A. Journalism. BOTM - EBC - Horseman - G&C - Vampire
Iceberg wrote:Ski, I'm not entirely sure where you're trying to go with that list, except to confirm that President Bush is nothing but a blank sockpuppet on which conservatives are encouraged to project idealized images of themselves.
He seems to think the idea liberals are evil, anti-american, terrorist loving scum that need to be wiped out to protect the american way of life...is in some way comperable to disliking the policies and actions of a specific individual...
In other words, theski, is a stupid cunt.
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Fuck off Keevan.. Dont pretend to know what I think...
Sudden power is apt to be insolent, sudden liberty saucy; that behaves best which has grown gradually.
Iceberg wrote:Ski, I'm not entirely sure where you're trying to go with that list, except to confirm that President Bush is nothing but a blank sockpuppet on which conservatives are encouraged to project idealized images of themselves.
You wrote this
So, do you want to even TRY to assert that the list of left-wing books even comes CLOSE to spewing the same amount of bile as the right-wing ones?[/quote
Yes it does... that is what the list shows... Its the same from both sides..
Or is that not what you ment...
Sudden power is apt to be insolent, sudden liberty saucy; that behaves best which has grown gradually.
theski wrote:
Fuck off Keevan.. Dont pretend to know what I think...
Get bent shit for brains.
Act like a stupid shit, get called a stupid shit; such is the way of SD.net
When confronted with books that equate liberals with terrorists and call them anti-american and call for their extermination, your response is to point at books that criticize Bush.
Well done, you have shown yourself to either be deeply retarded, or just a hypocritical stupid cunt.
"Prodesse Non Nocere." "It's all about popularity really, if your invisible friend that tells you to invade places is called Napoleon, you're a loony, if he's called Jesus then you're the president." "I'd drive more people insane, but I'd have to double back and pick them up first..." "All it takes for bullshit to thrive is for rational men to do nothing." - Kevin Farrell, B.A. Journalism. BOTM - EBC - Horseman - G&C - Vampire
Keevan_Colton wrote:He seems to think the idea liberals are evil, anti-american, terrorist loving scum that need to be wiped out to protect the american way of life...is in some way comperable to disliking the policies and actions of a specific individual...
In other words, theski, is a stupid cunt.
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Fuck off Keevan.. Dont pretend to know what I think...
Provide some counter-evidence.
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theski wrote:
Fuck off Keevan.. Dont pretend to know what I think...
Get bent shit for brains.
Act like a stupid shit, get called a stupid shit; such is the way of SD.net
When confronted with books that equate liberals with terrorists and call them anti-american and call for their extermination, your response is to point at books that criticize Bush.
Well done, you have shown yourself to either be deeply retarded, or just a hypocritical stupid cunt.
Blow me.. Here is the Quote
So, do you want to even TRY to assert that the list of left-wing books even comes CLOSE to spewing the same amount of bile as the right-wing ones?
and that is what I showed... the left has there own bile spewers.....
Sudden power is apt to be insolent, sudden liberty saucy; that behaves best which has grown gradually.
So, do you want to even TRY to assert that the list of left-wing books even comes CLOSE to spewing the same amount of bile as the right-wing ones?
Yes it does... that is what the list shows... Its the same from both sides..
Or is that not what you ment...
Liberals are evil, anti-american etc...contrasted with Bush is a fuckwit...well done, you've been taking the Comical Axi correspondence course in how to debate havent you?
"Prodesse Non Nocere." "It's all about popularity really, if your invisible friend that tells you to invade places is called Napoleon, you're a loony, if he's called Jesus then you're the president." "I'd drive more people insane, but I'd have to double back and pick them up first..." "All it takes for bullshit to thrive is for rational men to do nothing." - Kevin Farrell, B.A. Journalism. BOTM - EBC - Horseman - G&C - Vampire
So, do you want to even TRY to assert that the list of left-wing books even comes CLOSE to spewing the same amount of bile as the right-wing ones?
and that is what I showed...
No, it isnt, and the fact that you think it is is why you are a stupid cunt.
"Prodesse Non Nocere." "It's all about popularity really, if your invisible friend that tells you to invade places is called Napoleon, you're a loony, if he's called Jesus then you're the president." "I'd drive more people insane, but I'd have to double back and pick them up first..." "All it takes for bullshit to thrive is for rational men to do nothing." - Kevin Farrell, B.A. Journalism. BOTM - EBC - Horseman - G&C - Vampire
Right wing book theme: "Liberals are evil, anti-American terrorist lovers who need to be killed or controlled for our own good!" Left wing book theme: "Bush is a cunt."
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If only one rock and roll song echoes into tomorrow
There won't be anything to keep you from the distant morning glow.
I'm not a man. I just portrayed one for 15 years.
So, do you want to even TRY to assert that the list of left-wing books even comes CLOSE to spewing the same amount of bile as the right-wing ones?
and that is what I showed... the left has there own bile spewers.....
Except... and this is the kicker... the left doesn't call the right TREASONOUS. It's one thing to sling mud from both sides, it's quite another to ACCUSE one side of a CAIPTIAL CRIME. Do you see the difference?
Anyone who has read Lies and the Lying Liers Who Tell Them can tell you it has vastly more credibility then the last conservative shitty talk show host book I read, The Savage Nation. For God's sake, Moore in Dude, Where's My Country had more sources then Hannity, Coulter, and the other right wing talk show cocksuckers.
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theski wrote:Bullshit.. then explain the difference to little old stupid me..
You won't even ACKNOWLEDGE statements critical of Bush as they are. That's why arguing with you is so frustrating; as soon as you see something a shade of grey, you'll paint it black. Just like these books, and just like Kerry's Senate votes.
