No-blood Jango

Jean Paul · Post by **Jean Paul** » 2004-10-31 05:06am

When Jango was beheaded there should have been a spurting fountain of blood. There wasn't. Why? I mean the big thick neck arteries should be thick enough that the lightsaber cauterising effect wouldn't matter. There were times before when it didn't matter (arms chopped off etc.) and the arteries leading to the arms are a lot narrower than those in the neck.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-10-31 05:18am

I think this still falls under cauterised, like Darth Maul in TPM.

Pcm979 · Post by **Pcm979** » 2004-10-31 05:29am

"Real' answer: Because AotC isn't Kill Bill.

In-universe answer: The arm incident in ANH was an exception to the rule, possibly because the species Obi chops up has high blood pressure or somesuch.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2004-10-31 09:04am

Gandalf wrote:I think this still falls under cauterised, like Darth Maul in TPM.

We did get a red mist from Maul being fatally sliced.

Maybe his suit is self-sealing?

Non-SOD: to keep the PG rating. There were a TON of saber deaths in AOTC, the most of any SW movie to date. So they probably worked to make them look as "clean" and be as quick-edited as possible.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-10-31 09:25am

A ton? They were all against Geonosians- who are evil non-humanoid looking aliens so you can get away with it.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-10-31 10:56am

Jean Paul wrote:When Jango was beheaded there should have been a spurting fountain of blood. There wasn't. Why? I mean the big thick neck arteries should be thick enough that the lightsaber cauterising effect wouldn't matter. There were times before when it didn't matter (arms chopped off etc.) and the arteries leading to the arms are a lot narrower than those in the neck.

It's canon by the EU that lightsabers generally causterize what they hit. As they cut through they fry the flesh, closing off the blood circulation and preventing bleeding.

The arm in ANH is the exception to the rule.

In AOTC, Anakin's arm is causterized after being cut off. In TPM, we see steam from vaporized blood, but no liquid blood as he falls, so it must have been causterized as well. Luke's arm was causterized since we didn't see blood everywhere. etc, etc.

The Original Nex · Post by **The Original Nex** » 2004-10-31 12:50pm

The arm in ANH is the exception to the rule.

Which could easily be explained by an unusual Aqualish physiology.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-10-31 12:54pm

The Original Nex wrote:
The arm in ANH is the exception to the rule.
Which could easily be explained by an unusual Aqualish physiology.

Indeed, if you look at the severed arm there is no cauterized flesh inside the cloth sleeve. It looks almost as if the stump exploded, spraying blood and evacuating much of the flesh around the contact area.

The Original Nex · Post by **The Original Nex** » 2004-10-31 01:06pm

The arm in ANH is the exception to the rule.

Which could easily be explained by an unusual Aqualish physiology.

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2004-10-31 03:39pm

The Aqualish arm looked rather hollow. That would be difficult to cauterize.

Dillon · Post by **Dillon** » 2004-10-31 05:21pm

StormtrooperOfDeath wrote:The Aqualish arm looked rather hollow. That would be difficult to cauterize.

Almost as if it was simply a hollowed, rubber replica of an arm filled with blood or a blood like substance...

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2004-10-31 05:27pm

Real Reason : Because Lucas figured he can get better marketing with a PG rating

SW Reason : Different physiology. Who knows, maybe the energy transfer in that split second was not enough to cauterize it. Probably different chemical makeup.

Pcm979 · Post by **Pcm979** » 2004-10-31 08:46pm

The Original Nex wrote:
The arm in ANH is the exception to the rule.
Which could easily be explained by an unusual Aqualish physiology.

Erm.. That's what I said.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2004-10-31 09:47pm

Vympel wrote:A ton? They were all against Geonosians- who are evil non-humanoid looking aliens so you can get away with it.

I'm not on any film ratings boards, but yeah, something like that. Animated fantasy violence (against people in suits or aliens) is somehow more acceptable than "humans" getting cut with makeup effects.

Did the "burning skeletons" really bump Star Wars from G to PG? I don't know, but some people believe that.

Yeah, the bloody arm is an anomaly. So is Luke's 0wnx0r1ng the skiff guards in ROTJ (and not having them be cut to pieces).

Then again, Dooku does a couple of "flesh wounds" on Obi-Wan (on purpose apparently). So maybe Luke is a moral literalist (well, I'm still a Light Jedi, technically the Sarlacc killed them, not my lightsaber!), or just a touch sadistic. ; )

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2004-10-31 09:53pm

Praxis wrote:
Jean Paul wrote:When Jango was beheaded there should have been a spurting fountain of blood. There wasn't. Why? I mean the big thick neck arteries should be thick enough that the lightsaber cauterising effect wouldn't matter. There were times before when it didn't matter (arms chopped off etc.) and the arteries leading to the arms are a lot narrower than those in the neck.
It's canon by the EU that lightsabers generally causterize what they hit. As they cut through they fry the flesh, closing off the blood circulation and preventing bleeding.

Some of the comic books show blood sprays from saber hits (I'm thinking of Heir to the Empire graphic novel in particular).

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-10-31 10:02pm

Kurgan wrote:Did the "burning skeletons" really bump Star Wars from G to PG? I don't know, but some people believe that.

Not exactly so A to B. The production featured the burning bodies to HELP guarentee a PG rating rather than a G. It wasn't the sole factor or was directly responsible for the final MPAA rating of the film.

Keep in mind it was way back in 1977, where the ratings guidlines and standards were a little different than they are today. G used to cover a slightly broader spectrum, and PG's spectrum was huge.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2004-11-01 08:29am

That's true, we didn't have PG-13 yet.

Darth Maul · Post by **Darth Maul** » 2004-11-01 03:02pm

If a lightsaber can melt through a blast door, I'm sure it would have no problem cauterizing the jugular artery.

The Original Nex · Post by **The Original Nex** » 2004-11-01 04:17pm

Pcm979 wrote:
The Original Nex wrote:
The arm in ANH is the exception to the rule.
Which could easily be explained by an unusual Aqualish physiology.
Erm.. That's what I said.

Apologies. Well, I've confirmed it then.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-11-01 05:52pm

Well. If your arm speed is fast enough, you might be able to chop a limb off without transferring enough energy to cauterise. In which case, it'd make sense for elderly obi-wan to do so, but unusual aqualish physiology is my best bet, lacking calcs.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-11-01 06:05pm

Jango is obviously alive and well, he had time to snuck his head into his suit, like all those Scooby Doo cartoons I've watched.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-11-01 06:40pm

NecronLord wrote:Well. If your arm speed is fast enough, you might be able to chop a limb off without transferring enough energy to cauterise. In which case, it'd make sense for elderly obi-wan to do so, but unusual aqualish physiology is my best bet, lacking calcs.

For the first one, that would mean that old man Obi swings his saber faster than Mace Windu chopping off Jango's head.

Bob the Gunslinger · Post by **Bob the Gunslinger** » 2004-11-02 01:28pm

So, what's the deal with the Tauntaun? Shouldn't the gouge Han cut have been cauterized as he cut it? Instead, all these little dumpling-like organs plopped out. So, why didn't Maul's organs plop out when he was sliced? Unusual Aqualish physiology?

Obiwan: And I thought he smelled bad on the outside.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2004-11-02 01:31pm

Good point.

This just goes to further prove my crackpot theory that lightsabers have variable settings! *joking*

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-11-02 03:24pm

Bob the Gunslinger wrote:So, what's the deal with the Tauntaun? Shouldn't the gouge Han cut have been cauterized as he cut it? Instead, all these little dumpling-like organs plopped out. So, why didn't Maul's organs plop out when he was sliced? Unusual Aqualish physiology?

Obiwan: And I thought he smelled bad on the outside.

Because there's a difference between cutting something open and cutting something in half.

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