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The most idiotic Enterprise episode ever

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"Dear Doctor" takes the price in my opinion. The captain and the doctor decide to commit genocide for a very lame reason.

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Currently today there are roughly 30-50 million people around the world affected by aids, and people born with aids will die very young. Should we not care about them?, give them aid to combat aids?
According to this Enterprise episode we shall not. Nope the weak should die letting the strong take over, good example in TNG for it, we will not interfere when Cardassian’s makes mass genocides on Bajorans :roll: Fuck the prime directive, which is not working anyway.

What kind of messages are they feeding to us? The weak shall die and letting the strong survive?
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What's amazing is that this is the Prime Directive episode. They preach that abominable thing at the audience.
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Prime Directive, Smrime Directive they never followed that thing to begin with

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I think Dear Doctor takes it for Enterprise's crew. Maurader represented the most idiotic klingons.
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Dear Doctor killed the entire series for me. Archer and Phlox committed genocide, and THEN Archer practically breaks down the fourth wall to preach to the audience about the Prime Directive. What kind of fucked up idiot thinks it's MORAL to allow billions of sentient beings to die for no good reason? I shut the TV off after that episode and swore I'd never watch that asswipe of a series again.
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Dark Primus wrote: Currently today there are roughly 30-50 million people around the world affected by aids, and people born with aids will die very young. Should we not care about them?, give them aid to combat aids?
According to this Enterprise episode we shall not. Nope the weak should die letting the strong take over, good example in TNG for it, we will not interfere when Cardassian’s makes mass genocides on Bajorans
I think you have misinterpreted the message. Genocide isn't an issue in "Dear Doctor", since the disease afflicting the aliens is none of Starfleet's doing. The message of "Dear Doctor" (and the Prime Directive in general) is isolationism.

They were OK with helping the aliens when they first met them, but when they discovered that there was another sentient species on the planet, they suddenly felt that their moral obligations had been put into doubt. Should they save the dominant species, essentially preventing their rivals from ever having a chance to develop? The alternative is to refuse to help the dominant species, and see if they can save themselves, thus giving their rivals a chance. The message of "Dear Doctor" is that whenever we see such a conflict developing, we should butt out.

By that reasoning, we should have stayed out of the developing situation in Kosovo, where ethnic Serbians were doing their best to exterminate ethnic Kosovars, who lacked the weapons to effectively defend themselves. By that reasoning, we should let the AIDS epidemic take its course outside our own borders; countries that deserve to continue to exist will find their own ways to deal with it.

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What? The other species can still develop. They are being taken care of by the dominant, but they aren't oppressing them. And the other species is smart, they work in a hospital. Heck, they are developed though they don't have the skills of the dominant yet. The Enterprise should have helped. It would in no way mean that the other species could not develop.

Besides, the prime directive bars intereference that are pre-warp. This is not exactly the case here, since the world is already "contaminated."

Heck, at worst Archer should have contacted the Vulcans, they could have stayed with the planet long term, like they did with Earth so that both species could survive or "develop."

Ultimately, Archer chose to commit genocide by doing nothing.
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neoolong wrote:What? The other species can still develop. They are being taken care of by the dominant, but they aren't oppressing them. And the other species is smart, they work in a hospital. Heck, they are developed though they don't have the skills of the dominant yet. The Enterprise should have helped. It would in no way mean that the other species could not develop.

Besides, the prime directive bars intereference that are pre-warp. This is not exactly the case here, since the world is already "contaminated."

Heck, at worst Archer should have contacted the Vulcans, they could have stayed with the planet long term, like they did with Earth so that both species could survive or "develop."

Ultimately, Archer chose to commit genocide by doing nothing.

I fully agree with you on this issue. It is possible that both of those sentient species needed each other. The dominant species was obviously takin care of and supporting the intellectually challenged species. In fact, the dominant species was probably helping the less advanced species to develop. Dr. Phlox and Archer used some funky logic to come up with the decision they made.

How would we feel if the situation were reversed?Let's say the neanderthals or homo-erectus survived to this day and were still developing. How would we (homo sapiens) feel if a visitor refused to give us the cure to our illness for the same reasons that Archer and Dr. Phlox gave?
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The logic used is very twisted. The inferior species some how needs to dominant one to die of the evolve and that’s why Enterprise can't help them. However what they ignore is that the dominant species has developed to the point that it can seek external help to aid its self. So if they really don't want to interfere then they should have given the cure.

Archer and the Doctor should be shot.
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People, remember that we've got another five years to go for this slo-motion trainwreck of a series. I believe we've yet to see its most idiotic episode.

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I'm sure some of my more T&A inclined friends will still be amused and are patiently waiting for the long awaited T'Pol/Hoshi make out episode :twisted:
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I think that "Fusion" was the worst. I loved the Firsttvdrama premise of that, which (in its entirety) is as follows:
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Master of Ossus wrote:I think that "Fusion" was the worst. I loved the Firsttvdrama premise of that, which (in its entirety) is as follows:
Firsttvdrama.com wrote: T'Pol has a dream that she gets laid.
Yes... The BragaTrek™ target audience are in much the same state. Only they don't even get as close as T'Pol to the dream of getting laid. 8)
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Take your pick. Almost all the episodes of Enterprise are stupid.
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The aliens even went looking for help in sub-light ship! "So sorry, helping you would interfere with natural selection. Cheery-O, don`t let death get ya down!" :twisted:
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I don't see any points with the sexual scenes in "Fusion". They are totaly irrelevant. Actually i think entire Enterprise is irrelelvant. And I'm still watching it, hoping the serie might turn out to be good.
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I would almost conjecture that to be in vain.

But hey you might be correct if B&B die and we get a real writer.
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"Dear Doctor" definitely killed the series for me (not that I was really into it to begin with). After watching it I felt nothing but the urge to hurt B&B, unfortunately they were no where in sight and my poor punching bag got the crap beat out of it for an hour.
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