Durandal wrote:
Wake up and smell the two-party system, please.
That mentality is the cause of the two party system- but apparently you're too big of a fucking idiot to realize that.
Could we have a rebuttal that isn't this fucking insipid 'IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT!' bullshit repeated ad infinium ad naeseum? My god, this shit is annoying to watch.
You shitheads want the real reason the Third Parties fail? They don't actually fucking try. They don't raise money, they don't campaign for any seats but the Presidential, they don't, in fact, do anything but show up once every four years, spit out extremist tripe, and then whine when no one respects them.
HERE'S AN IDEA! Get a third party which isn't extremist morons, campaign for local seats, build a solid voter base, and THEN go for President. Oh, wait, that requires more effort than 'WAH! WAH! YOUR NEGATIVE THINKING IS WHY IT DOESN'T WORK!'.
Manic Progressive: A liberal who violently swings from anger at politicos to despondency over them.
Out Of Context theatre: Ron Paul has repeatedly said he's not a racist. - Destructinator XIII on why Ron Paul isn't racist.
SirNitram wrote:HERE'S AN IDEA! Get a third party which isn't extremist morons, campaign for local seats, build a solid voter base, and THEN go for President. Oh, wait, that requires more effort than 'WAH! WAH! YOUR NEGATIVE THINKING IS WHY IT DOESN'T WORK!'.
That's a song I've been singing for years. I'd thank you for the return of my lyric sheet.
SirNitram wrote:HERE'S AN IDEA! Get a third party which isn't extremist morons, campaign for local seats, build a solid voter base, and THEN go for President. Oh, wait, that requires more effort than 'WAH! WAH! YOUR NEGATIVE THINKING IS WHY IT DOESN'T WORK!'.
That's a song I've been singing for years. I'd thank you for the return of my lyric sheet.
Don't make me set fire to your internal organs. I learned it from Harry Potter.
Manic Progressive: A liberal who violently swings from anger at politicos to despondency over them.
Out Of Context theatre: Ron Paul has repeatedly said he's not a racist. - Destructinator XIII on why Ron Paul isn't racist.
I wasn't defending the actions of third parties we have now- I was simply stating that its foolish to accept a two party system as sacrosant simply because its the status quo.
Devolution is quite as natural as evolution, and may be just as pleasing, or even a good deal more pleasing, to God. If the average man is made in God's image, then a man such as Beethoven or Aristotle is plainly superior to God, and so God may be jealous of him, and eager to see his superiority perish with his bodily frame.
BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:I wasn't defending the actions of third parties we have now- I was simply stating that its foolish to accept a two party system as sacrosant simply because its the status quo.
No, it's the way of the world now because of the above statements, and retards like you blindly repeating 'WAH IT'S YOUR FAULT' are morons who should be verbally smacked around for your trouble.
Manic Progressive: A liberal who violently swings from anger at politicos to despondency over them.
Out Of Context theatre: Ron Paul has repeatedly said he's not a racist. - Destructinator XIII on why Ron Paul isn't racist.
Durandal wrote:
Wake up and smell the two-party system, please.
That mentality is the cause of the two party system- but apparently you're too big of a fucking idiot to realize that.
Could we have a rebuttal that isn't this fucking insipid 'IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT!' bullshit repeated ad infinium ad naeseum? My god, this shit is annoying to watch.
You shitheads want the real reason the Third Parties fail? They don't actually fucking try. They don't raise money, they don't campaign for any seats but the Presidential, they don't, in fact, do anything but show up once every four years, spit out extremist tripe, and then whine when no one respects them.
HERE'S AN IDEA! Get a third party which isn't extremist morons, campaign for local seats, build a solid voter base, and THEN go for President. Oh, wait, that requires more effort than 'WAH! WAH! YOUR NEGATIVE THINKING IS WHY IT DOESN'T WORK!'.
Actually, the Green, Libertarian, and Sociailst parties have been running candidates for local and county offices, as well as the odd state legislative seat, for years now. Some have actually been elected with the most successful of them being Bernie Sanders (Socialist-VT), and Ron Paul (Libertarian—TX) (though Paul is a defector from the GOP but I believe did get reelected as Libertarian). But what electoral victories they do manage to score are few and far between at this point and they don't have a national machine on a par with either the Democratic or Republican parties. That makes a huge difference in terms of competitiveness for higher office.
When ballots have fairly and constitutionally decided, there can be no successful appeal back to bullets.
—Abraham Lincoln
People pray so that God won't crush them like bugs.
—Dr. Gregory House
Oil an emergency?! It's about time, Brigadier, that the leaders of this planet of yours realised that to remain dependent upon a mineral slime simply doesn't make sense.
—The Doctor "Terror Of The Zygons" (1975)
Patrick Degan wrote:Actually, the Green, Libertarian, and Sociailst parties have been running candidates for local and county offices, as well as the odd state legislative seat, for years now. Some have actually been elected with the most successful of them being Bernie Sanders (Socialist-VT), and Ron Paul (Libertarian—TX) (though Paul is a defector from the GOP but I believe did get reelected as Libertarian). But what electoral victories they do manage to score are few and far between at this point and they don't have a national machine on a par with either the Democratic or Republican parties. That makes a huge difference in terms of competitiveness for higher office.
I sit corrected on the local seats issue. Conceded, Degan.
Manic Progressive: A liberal who violently swings from anger at politicos to despondency over them.
Out Of Context theatre: Ron Paul has repeatedly said he's not a racist. - Destructinator XIII on why Ron Paul isn't racist.
Petrosjko wrote:You've pointed out in the past that people in a republic are responsible for the actions of that government, and I agree. So I refuse to cast my vote for a man on the basis of 'He'll probably not kill as many innocent people as the other guy will.'
Glocksman wrote:They probably could, but it would depend upon Congress's reaction as to whether or not it'd do any good. The checks and balances system relies on two of the three branches teaming up on the third if the third one gets out of line.
You'd potentially have the US Marshalls (directly controlled by the courts) shooting it out with the Secret Service on the White House lawn in an attempt to arrest GWB for contempt.
Tell me that wouldn't be a cool idea for a TV show.
Damien Sorresso
"Ever see what them computa bitchez do to numbas? It ain't natural. Numbas ain't supposed to be code, they supposed to quantify shit."
- The Onion
Durandal wrote:
Tell me that wouldn't be a cool idea for a TV show.
I can already hear a Hollywood screenplay writer scribbling this idea down.
Er, no...that was me...but you must admit it'd go great in a black comedy...
"Prodesse Non Nocere." "It's all about popularity really, if your invisible friend that tells you to invade places is called Napoleon, you're a loony, if he's called Jesus then you're the president." "I'd drive more people insane, but I'd have to double back and pick them up first..." "All it takes for bullshit to thrive is for rational men to do nothing." - Kevin Farrell, B.A. Journalism. BOTM - EBC - Horseman - G&C - Vampire
