Bush 269-Kerry 242

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-11-02 08:04pm

Kentucky's not done yet. I'm here, and seeing the local news. Bush is in the lead, but not by much, and not all the precincts have reported in yet. I'm sorry to say that I can't say the same on the gay marriage ban; so far there are 499,000 some odd votes in favor, and 236,000 some odd against.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-11-02 08:05pm

Not surprised that my state went to Bush wonder at what margin, there was some ground swell of anger, saddly Kerry didn't work for it.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-11-02 08:05pm

Can we rename this to a generic title since it's a bit misleading for future results.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-11-02 08:06pm

Looks like it's being kept current, AV.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-11-02 08:07pm

Obama wins in Illinois, as if this is a surprise.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2004-11-02 08:09pm

Bush will almost certainly take Ohio. Even with the piss-poor job climate there are too many all-republican strongholds like the area around Wright Patterson AFB.

I'm not optimistic to say the least

aten_vs_ra · Post by **aten_vs_ra** » 2004-11-02 08:10pm

The electoral college, protecting the masses from themselves since 1789. Excellent.

Oklahoma voted for Bush. No surprise there.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-11-02 08:12pm

Didn't I already say that?

Jadeite · Post by **Jadeite** » 2004-11-02 08:17pm

Sokar wrote:IIRC Indiana hasn't gone Democratic since before the New Deal.....

Well, we have had a Democratic governor for the past 16 years.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-11-02 08:21pm

At this point, it looks like Bush has made some significant gains in Florida; he's grabbed some counties he didn't get in 2000. Kerry's currently on top in Ohio.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2004-11-02 08:24pm

Jadeite wrote:
Sokar wrote:IIRC Indiana hasn't gone Democratic since before the New Deal.....
Well, we have had a Democratic governor for the past 16 years.

Governors aren't good indicators, because governors will take positions relative to their state's moderate center, rather than the national centerist. Christie Whitman, our last governor, was a Republican, but she would have been a Democrat outside the Northeast.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2004-11-02 08:26pm

Joe wrote:Obama wins in Illinois, as if this is a surprise.

How big was his margin of victory? Because, I heard polls showing him with a 40% margin of victory over Keyes.

Anyway, I'm thinking it's safe to say that if either Bush or Kerry wins both Florida and Ohio, they have the election. However, I don't think we'll really have an idea of who wins those states until all the precincts have reported, since the projected winner in each state right now seems to have an unusually high margin of victory for a "swing state".

Post by **Broomstick** » 2004-11-02 08:32pm

fgalkin wrote:Well, the first results are in. Bush carried Indiana

A little premature - as of right now, only 25% of the polls have checked in with results, and of those the split was 52/48 Bush/Kerry.

There are also a significant number of new voters, and a high turn-out expected. In 2000, Porter County had an 85%+ voter turn-out, and indications are that they might beat that this time around. NW Indiana has a large number of democrats, and their polls hadn't closed at the time of the OP, so those results weren't even in the 25% tally.

All that said, yes, Indiana is expected to go Republican in the presidential race. And Dewey was expected to beat Truman.

We'll see.

UCBooties · Post by **UCBooties** » 2004-11-02 08:33pm

PA is going to be a big deal, and most of the major counties have not closed polls yet

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-11-02 08:33pm

CNN just called SC and Virginia. Arkansas is still too close to call; maybe sending Clinton there was a good idea.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-11-02 08:34pm

56%-44% electoral vote so far.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2004-11-02 08:35pm

A few more southern states have gone for Bush, and the new total is 94-77 in favor of Bush.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-11-02 08:37pm

In other news, Daschle and Thune are in a dead heat in South Dakota. Pay attention to this race, it's going to have a huge impact on what the Senate becomes.

Sharpshooter · Post by **Sharpshooter** » 2004-11-02 08:37pm

102-77 for Bush according to Fox News...

...shit...

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2004-11-02 08:39pm

Sharpshooter wrote:102-77 for Bush according to Fox News...

...shit...

I wouldn't be too worried. The recent gains are from wins in southern states where a Bush victory could be seen from a mile away, and will probably be balanced out as California, New York, and other typically Democratic states report.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-11-02 08:39pm

Don't get too caught up in individual state wins.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-11-02 08:40pm

Generally there haven't been any surprises yet. Don't worry.

CJvR · Post by **CJvR** » 2004-11-02 08:42pm

Sharpshooter wrote:102-77 for Bush according to Fox News...

...shit...

Bush needs a big lead or the 55 elector, IIRC, Califorian sledgehammer will flatten him.

Post by **Zaia** » 2004-11-02 08:43pm

FUCK I hate seeing Bush in the lead, though.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-11-02 08:46pm

CJvR wrote:
Sharpshooter wrote:102-77 for Bush according to Fox News...

...shit...
Bush needs a big lead or the 55 elector, IIRC, Califorian sledgehammer will flatten him.

More like 20, since Texas is his.

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