The Official Episode III spoiler thread

Mlenk · Post by **Mlenk** » 2004-11-03 12:16am

Vympel wrote: with Chancellor Palpatine looking on, shackled to a seat (you can't see the shackles, but we know from previous spoilers).

Has it been said why he's shackled to a seat? It's hard for me to imagine that anyone could hold palpatine against his will.

El Moose Monstero · Post by **El Moose Monstero** » 2004-11-03 01:34am

Palpatine in Sith guise, yes - but I suspect we're looking at a nice wee plan to turn Anakin to the darkside and getting rid of Dooku once and for all by pretending to be captured and having his pet dog sic the beardy one.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-11-03 06:16am

Mlenk wrote:
Has it been said why he's shackled to a seat? It's hard for me to imagine that anyone could hold palpatine against his will.

Because he presumably staged his kidnapping by Separatist forces, which is what the Battle of Coruscant is really all about. The Republic fleet attacks the escaping Separatist forces while Obi-Wan and Anakin go in to rescue the Chancellor from the Seperatist flagship.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-11-04 02:23am

Millenniumfalcon.com has five seconds of footage from the teaser, including Sidious with a lightsabre!

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-11-04 02:34am

Yeah, that's definately Sidious. His lightsabre hilt matches the leaked design.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-11-04 02:38am

I have to say, after all the speculations, I never imagined him looking this freaky. Good signs!

And the sheer fact that they show this in the teaser, was almost mindboggling. Even Dooku vs. Yoda was kept more or less under wraps.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-11-04 02:53am

Where is it?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-11-04 02:56am

Check the MillenniumFalcon.com board, Episode III forum.

Technically it's only about three seconds of footage, while the actual video is five seconds long in total.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-11-04 03:22am

Pablo Chat wrote:Q: Since there were 1.2 million Clonetroopers basically ready for fighting as of AOTC (judging by Lama Su's comments anyway), has that number increased at all by Episode 3? Is there any mention of Clonetrooper/Stormtrooper numbers in the script or by Lucas himself?

Asshole: Thankfully, no. The military math in these movies tends to be as plausable as the physics.

What a piece of shit.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-11-04 03:32am

There are 1.2 million units in AOTC, 'a unit' does not necessarily mean a 'soldier'. I don´t care what any secondary sources say (like the novelization), on a galactic scale the unit = soldier notion is completely rediculous, and, as I´m sure we´ll see in ROTS (and have already seen in SW: CW), completely unrealistic.

Clone armies, clone pilots, clone gunners, sounds like alot of people. Considering it´s been three years of continuous warfare, there can´t be many of these so-called "1.2 million troopers" left. I call bull on anything but the movie in this regard.

Remember, according to the ROTJ novelization, Owen and Obi-Wan were brothers...

And Pablo is a dick, thanks for giving a fresh example.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-11-04 04:10am

Ouch, insulting the product of his employer...

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-11-04 06:16am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Check the MillenniumFalcon.com board, Episode III forum.

Please be more specific.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-11-04 06:28am

JESUS FUCKIN CHRIST!

For the lazy:

http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/v ... php?t=2247

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-11-04 06:33am

Meh. That doesn't show much, but I was rather hoping he'd disgard the robes for fighting. Maul did, and with good reason.

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2004-11-04 06:49am

VT-16 wrote:There are 1.2 million units in AOTC, 'a unit' does not necessarily mean a 'soldier'. I don´t care what any secondary sources say (like the novelization), on a galactic scale the unit = soldier notion is completely rediculous, and, as I´m sure we´ll see in ROTS (and have already seen in SW: CW), completely unrealistic.

Calm down VT. And the novel IIRC tends to support the 1 clone = 1 unit idea. But I'm of the opinion that the 'ready for deployment' is about the completly fully kitted out and trained Clones. And that when Yoda came, he simply ordered up everyone that could fight, which was a FAR greater number. That they may have not as yet gotten super training on some things, but they still made excellent General Infintry.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-11-04 08:30am

Chris OFarrell wrote:Calm down VT.

Meh, I´ve seen more heated rants go without remarks. Guess I´m still a semi-n00b.

And the novel IIRC tends to support the 1 clone = 1 unit idea. But I'm of the opinion that the 'ready for deployment' is about the completly fully kitted out and trained Clones. And that when Yoda came, he simply ordered up everyone that could fight, which was a FAR greater number. That they may have not as yet gotten super training on some things, but they still made excellent General Infintry.

Ah, the comfort of ambiguity. Thanks, that made sense.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-11-04 05:44pm

Vympel wrote:
Mlenk wrote:
Has it been said why he's shackled to a seat? It's hard for me to imagine that anyone could hold palpatine against his will.
Because he presumably staged his kidnapping by Separatist forces, which is what the Battle of Coruscant is really all about. The Republic fleet attacks the escaping Separatist forces while Obi-Wan and Anakin go in to rescue the Chancellor from the Seperatist flagship.

Essentially, it's the Luke vs. Vader Rematch of ROTS. As I argued in the Vader-Luke relationship thread, the SW saga works in cycles. Both Anakin and Luke went through similar events and choices; this is where it culminates.

Luke had the option to strike down Vader and by doing so, join the Dark Side, with Palpatine egging him on. I strongly suspect that a similar running commentary will be given by Palpatine during the Anakin vs. Dooku rematch. Killing Dooku will be the first step of Anakin's final plunge.

(On a side-note, does anyone else find it interesting that Palpatine's chair resembles his throne from ROTJ?)

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-11-04 05:54pm

So did the one in his office during AotC.

President Sharky · Post by **President Sharky** » 2004-11-05 01:57am

The shipbuilders must make their furniture purchases from the same Galactic Office Depot.

THEHOOLIGANJEDI · Post by **THEHOOLIGANJEDI** » 2004-11-11 10:00pm

According to TFN, The game Trailer has more spoilers than the Teaser.

EP3: Jim Ward Talks 'Revenge of the Sith' Game
Thu, Nov 11, 04 09:57:00 AM EST

Yahoo News/Hollywood Reporter features an interview with Jim Ward about Star Wars gaming. Here's an excerpt relating to ROTS:
The Hollywood Reporter: Where are you in developing the "Episode III" game?
Ward: It's going to provide the ultimate Jedi action fantasy fulfillment that we've hinted at in previous games. We brought in Nick Gillard, the stunt coordinator for the film, to work with the game animators and the entire team to ensure that the Jedi action moments are as real and true to the performances in the film.

Hayden Christensen came in and worked with the game development team to show them the style of his light-saber fighting. We've had the team fully integrated into the production of the film from beginning to end.

If you haven't already, be sure to check out the trailer for the 'Revenge of the sith' game at LucasArts, as it contains more spoilers than the teaser trailer. Thanks to Danny and Conor for the alert.

Go to: http://www.lucasarts.com/ep3/

And Find the Trailer.

Clone Sergeant · Post by **Clone Sergeant** » 2004-11-12 01:59am

From the latest BtH about the ARC-170 Fighter:

The mighty Incom/Subpro Aggressive ReConnaissance starfighter (ARC-170) has an impressive wingspan of 22.85 meters, is armed with two medium laser cannons, two aft blaster cannons, six proton torpedoes and carries a crew of three plus an astromech droid

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-11-12 02:07am

Heh, ever since I first read the name, I always thought it was a reference to ARC troopers. Guess I was almost right.

How much was the wingspan of an X-Wing?

EDIT: Nevermind, looks like it´s a little under 12 meters, since that´s the lenght of the craft. And the B-Wing appears to be 16 meters long, so that make the ARC the biggest fighter yet.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-11-12 03:37am

A crew of THREE? Fark. PLUS an astromech? I wonder what it means by six proton torpedoes. Six tubes, or six torpedoes? Hopefully six torpedoes. Like the X-Wing.

Dillon · Post by **Dillon** » 2004-11-12 03:57am

Uhh, has anyone else noticed this?

http://www.starwars.com/databank/charac ... ous/?id=eu

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-11-12 04:00am

That's an old, old, OLD picture. From like 1999.