Question for other college students

Trogdor · Post by **Trogdor** » 2004-11-03 01:58pm

Were the students in your colleges pro-Kerry? Because here Bush seemed to have more support from the students and it strikes me as bizarre and mildly frightening. A traditionally liberal group of people in a tradionally democrat state supporting Bush. Something's not adding up and I'm trying to figure it out.

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Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-11-03 02:01pm

No. UGA has the most active College Republicans branch in the country. The majority of the student body is conservative - though I doubt it's a huge majority.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2004-11-03 02:02pm

The students at my college were divided between Nader and the what's-his-name Socialist candidate.

EDIT: I was called a fascist once for supporting Kerry and for not calling for the immediate withdrawal of US troops from Iraq.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-11-03 02:02pm

Although I'm not a US citizen nor am I in the US, at my political society the other night were a load of US students and not one was pro-Bush. The entire society was pro-Kerry and that made having any unbiased debate a tad hard.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-11-03 02:06pm

Trogdor wrote:Were the students in your colleges pro-Kerry?

No, the ones that voted Kerry tended to be Anti-Bush but not pro-Kerry. And even then they were less than the Bush supporters and Anti-Kerry ones.

Trogdor wrote:Because here Bush seemed to have more support from the students and it strikes me as bizarre and mildly frightening. A traditionally liberal group of people in a tradionally democrat state supporting Bush. Something's not adding up and I'm trying to figure it out.

I can't say for your school. But the trend among American youth tends to run libertarian (fiscal and foreign policy conservative, socially liberal) in terms of political alignment. Kerry was a reluctant social liberal and had poor credentials as a fiscal conservative.

That and he just came off as a cold fish, a lousy leader, and entirely too out of touch.

theski · Post by **theski** » 2004-11-03 02:07pm

fgalkin wrote:The students at my college were divided between Nader and the what's-his-name Socialist candidate.

EDIT: I was called a fascist once for supporting Kerry and for not calling for the immediate withdrawal of US troops from Iraq.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Sounds like a P4C group

You didnt have your Jackboots on did you

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2004-11-03 02:07pm

bout one third of us (community college in MA) went bush

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-11-03 02:08pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:Although I'm not a US citizen nor am I in the US, at my political society the other night were a load of US students and not one was pro-Bush. The entire society was pro-Kerry and that made having any unbiased debate a tad hard.

US students studying abroad might be a wee bit of a biased sample. And how many were just anti-bush and not pro-Kerry?

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-11-03 02:11pm

The pro-Kerry people were very vocal, much moreso than Bush, but I suspect that the actual mix would have been split fairly evenly. USF has a good number of students from the more rural areas of FL -- which tend to vote conservative.

Bertie Wooster · Post by **Bertie Wooster** » 2004-11-03 02:12pm

I was at Haverford College for the Halloween festivities (and bothering Bryn Mawr girls) last weekend, and NONE of the student there supported Bush. All of the propaganda in the student center was pro-Kerry or anti-Bush.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-11-03 02:18pm

Stormbringer wrote:
US students studying abroad might be a wee bit of a biased sample. And how many were just anti-bush and not pro-Kerry?

I don't think any were really anti-Bush for the sake of being. I'll admit, hardly a comprehensive demographic.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-11-03 02:20pm

maybe next time, if the student activists spend more time in the voting booth and less time photoshopping Bush headshots onto monkeys while listening to Rage Against the Machine, they might accomplish something.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-11-03 02:24pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:maybe next time, if the student activists spend more time in the voting booth and less time photoshopping Bush headshots onto monkeys while listening to Rage Against the Machine, they might accomplish something.

I have to agree here. It would seem everyone has an opinion, yet, few are prepared to make it count.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2004-11-03 02:52pm

I'd say more Kerry than Bush, but there are huge sections of our school that are thoroughly liberal, including the Engineering, Math and Physics, Arts, and Bio departments. It's weird...

Shaidar Haran · Post by **Shaidar Haran** » 2004-11-03 02:59pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:
US students studying abroad might be a wee bit of a biased sample. And how many were just anti-bush and not pro-Kerry?
I don't think any were really anti-Bush for the sake of being. I'll admit, hardly a comprehensive demographic.

Anti-Bush for the sake of being?

It seems to me that most of the people that would up voting for Kerry are not Kerry supporters but people that saw him as the only option to Bush. I would call that Anti-Bush as opposed to being Pro-Kerry. A lot of people seem to have just held their nose and voted for Kerry.

Marksist · Post by **Marksist** » 2004-11-03 03:03pm

Definetely ABB at UF. Although there were a very vocal group of Bush supporters that would picket every Friday, just looking around campus with stickers and talking to friends, seemed definetely liberal and against Bush. Also, the numbers agree as this county (Alachua) was one of I believe two north Florida counties going to Kerry. And this county would definetely have been Bush if it weren't for the University here, as I was reading in the newspaper the majority of registered voters in this county are Students, and they are mostly Democrats, but, the rest of the non-University related population are Republicans.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2004-11-03 03:07pm

At UCDavis the tone was ABB. And that's why they lost.

Sharpshooter · Post by **Sharpshooter** » 2004-11-03 03:16pm

Surprisingly, I wound up being one of only two Kerry-voters in my dorm that I knew of - the rest were a bunch of mindless Reps who wouldn't give me a single decent answer as to why they voted for Bush when I pressed them.

It figures I'd wind up getting in a dorm where nine of every ten students are from the south...

Tech^salvager · Post by **Tech^salvager** » 2004-11-03 03:19pm

Well two of peps I talked to were pro kerry. Then another two peps was pro bush. Is had to say for me, since I only talked to 4 peps. I was pro bush.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-11-03 03:21pm

Shaidar Haran wrote: Anti-Bush for the sake of being?

It seems to me that most of the people that would up voting for Kerry are not Kerry supporters but people that saw him as the only option to Bush. I would call that Anti-Bush as opposed to being Pro-Kerry. A lot of people seem to have just held their nose and voted for Kerry.

You've not met people who are against Bush just because it's in vogue now rather than have a real reason to vote against him? There are plenty that aren't pro-Kerry or anyone else but just hate Bush.

Lord MJ · Post by **Lord MJ** » 2004-11-03 03:29pm

Georgia Tech is very conservative (which is a given since the majority of the students are from Georgia.)

It is atypical from the average universities which are considered bastions for liberal thought.

Archaic` · Post by **Archaic`** » 2004-11-03 03:38pm

Here at my university in Japan, there's actually no Americans currently as exchange students. However, from the native Japanese, when you found one of the rare ones who actually gave a damn, the majority (radical left wing socialists and communists for the most part) were for Kerry. As for the right wing nationalist crowd, most tended to support Bush, more due to the fact that the continuing situation in Iraq gave them more opportunities to push for the expansion of the milita...sorry, the "Self Defence Forces".

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2004-11-03 04:35pm

Pro-Kerry. To the point that when Nader stopped by to make a speech, there were demonstrations outside.

Lindar · Post by **Lindar** » 2004-11-03 05:46pm

most people that said anything seemed to be Pro-kerry...

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-11-03 05:47pm

Trogdor wrote:Were the students in your colleges pro-Kerry? Because here Bush seemed to have more support from the students and it strikes me as bizarre and mildly frightening. A traditionally liberal group of people in a tradionally democrat state supporting Bush. Something's not adding up and I'm trying to figure it out.

Mostly, yes, though there were a few Bush supporters.

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