Marksist wrote:Yarcamos explain why it is a good thing that two consenting adults who want to be married cannot do so, you fucking mouth breathing, knuckle-dragging jizz bag.
Hey moron, tonight we are looking at the results, and telling whether we like it or not. Not debating them. I've already said that in another thread.
Then start a new thread. Own up to your convictions. What difference does it make whether it is tonight or tomorrow?
Basically all you're really doing is making excuses.
Yarcamos wrote:Hey moron, tonight we are looking at the results, and telling whether we like it or not. Not debating them. I've already said that in another thread.
I'd like to see your "I democracy!" attitude hold up in a majority Muslim, Buddhist or militant lesbian nation.
You think there's chance the state Supreme Court'll toss out the initiative the way the LA SC did away with their gay marriage ban?
BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
No.
Sorry but this is a state where we get pro-life, pro-gun democrats, who lose to Mr. Death penalty for abortion doctors and one girl a time in the bathroom because lesibanism is rampent.
Yarcamos wrote:Good news... all of them passing with pretty high marks. I think it's safe to say most of America believes gay marriage shouldn't be allowed.
Okay, now that you've painted that big ol' range target on your chest, how about justifying your position before we send you downrange for target practice?
It passed in Michigan, too. It sickens me that a majority of people in a state that appears to have more than it's fair share of decent people would do that. I cannot believe so many people around me are ignorant, stupid, and bigoted fuckwits. Just when I thought our nation was ready to grow up a bit, this sort of stupid shit happens.
I wonder what it was like 40 years ago for those who realized that blacks deserved equal rights. People had to fight tooth and nail for something that was plainly obvious to them. We're at the beginning of another civil rights era. After that, another will begin. Religious rights themselves will finally come under attack and we will win. I only wish I'll be alive to see it.
The gift of Superman is the same in his universe as ours. It's not about his powers, his costume, his persona, it's about the using the gifts he has to help people. We all have gifts too, maybe we can't leap tall buildings in a single bound, but maybe we're good with math, maybe we're charming. We can use our gifts -whatever they are- to help people. We just need to make that choice. And Superman shows us that it's possible.
ReinnResauq wrote:It passed in Michigan, too. It sickens me that a majority of people in a state that appears to have more than it's fair share of decent people would do that. I cannot believe so many people around me are ignorant, stupid, and bigoted fuckwits. Just when I thought our nation was ready to grow up a bit, this sort of stupid shit happens.
I wonder what it was like 40 years ago for those who realized that blacks deserved equal rights. People had to fight tooth and nail for something that was plainly obvious to them. We're at the beginning of another civil rights era. After that, another will begin. Religious rights themselves will finally come under attack and we will win. I only wish I'll be alive to see it.
Fundemantalists cannot come under attack in this country for their religious beliefs.
But they most certainly can for criminal actions taken under the erroneous thought that religious freedom means freedom of action.
Prove a conspiracy in a scenario like that, and you might gain ground in de-bunking them en masse to a certain degree...
Frank Hipper wrote:Fundemantalists cannot come under attack in this country for their religious beliefs.
But they most certainly can for criminal actions taken under the erroneous thought that religious freedom means freedom of action.
Prove a conspiracy in a scenario like that, and you might gain ground in de-bunking them en masse to a certain degree...
No, I mean our definition of religious rights and freedoms, not religious right-wingers. Our current definition of religious rights right now consists of
As long as you don't offend christians or stop them from doing whatever they want, you can profess your own religious beliefs in private places.
After homosexuals win their equality, it will be atheists' turn.
The gift of Superman is the same in his universe as ours. It's not about his powers, his costume, his persona, it's about the using the gifts he has to help people. We all have gifts too, maybe we can't leap tall buildings in a single bound, but maybe we're good with math, maybe we're charming. We can use our gifts -whatever they are- to help people. We just need to make that choice. And Superman shows us that it's possible.
ReinnResauq wrote:It passed in Michigan, too. It sickens me that a majority of people in a state that appears to have more than it's fair share of decent people would do that. I cannot believe so many people around me are ignorant, stupid, and bigoted fuckwits. Just when I thought our nation was ready to grow up a bit, this sort of stupid shit happens.
I wonder what it was like 40 years ago for those who realized that blacks deserved equal rights. People had to fight tooth and nail for something that was plainly obvious to them. We're at the beginning of another civil rights era. After that, another will begin. Religious rights themselves will finally come under attack and we will win. I only wish I'll be alive to see it.
Do you mean the Religious Right will come under attack, or do you mean the right to hold religion? The former I have little objection to. If it's the latter, go screw yourself.
ReinnResauq wrote:It passed in Michigan, too. It sickens me that a majority of people in a state that appears to have more than it's fair share of decent people would do that. I cannot believe so many people around me are ignorant, stupid, and bigoted fuckwits. Just when I thought our nation was ready to grow up a bit, this sort of stupid shit happens.
I wonder what it was like 40 years ago for those who realized that blacks deserved equal rights. People had to fight tooth and nail for something that was plainly obvious to them. We're at the beginning of another civil rights era. After that, another will begin. Religious rights themselves will finally come under attack and we will win. I only wish I'll be alive to see it.
Do you mean the Religious Right will come under attack, or do you mean the right to hold religion? The former I have little objection to. If it's the latter, go screw yourself.
It is the former.
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Popping back in on the michigan front, looks like proposal 2 passed
And this is why you don't watch anything produced by Ronald D. Moore after he had his brain surgically removed and replaced with a bag of elephant semen.-Gramzamber, on why Caprica sucks
Data on Michigan's proposal 2
(Constitutional Amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman)
For-60.4%
Against-39.4%
And this is why you don't watch anything produced by Ronald D. Moore after he had his brain surgically removed and replaced with a bag of elephant semen.-Gramzamber, on why Caprica sucks
Exonerate wrote:Goddamn, somebody should challenge them in SCOTUS before Bush sticks in a bunch of fundies...
Oh, you can be sure that there are already people preparing lawsuits against them. Problem is, they've got to go through the lower courts first, and that could take years. Especially if they decide to use delaying tactics. Bush could very well have appointed his Buchanan Clones into the SC before any of the cases reaches the SC.
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Exonerate wrote:Goddamn, somebody should challenge them in SCOTUS before Bush sticks in a bunch of fundies...
Oh, you can be sure that there are already people preparing lawsuits against them. Problem is, they've got to go through the lower courts first, and that could take years. Especially if they decide to use delaying tactics. Bush could very well have appointed his Buchanan Clones into the SC before any of the cases reaches the SC.
If we get lucky the Dems still have enough clut to fillibuster in the senate, and block the Buchanen clones
If not, then all pro-church and state separation and pro-gay marriage stuff will have to wait a couple fucking decades.
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Darksider wrote:Data on Michigan's proposal 2
(Constitutional Amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman)
For-60.4%
Against-39.4%
That's not as horrible as I thought, although still depressing that 60% of the people of this state are in support of denying people rights.
The gift of Superman is the same in his universe as ours. It's not about his powers, his costume, his persona, it's about the using the gifts he has to help people. We all have gifts too, maybe we can't leap tall buildings in a single bound, but maybe we're good with math, maybe we're charming. We can use our gifts -whatever they are- to help people. We just need to make that choice. And Superman shows us that it's possible.
76%-24% Hey, atleast the lottery act passed.
democracy!" attitude hold up in a majority Muslim, Buddhist or militant lesbian nation.
