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Al-Qaqaa explosives stolen as US troops watched

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LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Explosives were looted from the Al-Qaqaa ammunitions site in Iraq while outnumbered U.S. soldiers assigned to guard the materials watched helplessly, soldiers told the Los Angeles Times.

About a dozen U.S. troops were guarding the sprawling facility in the weeks after the April 2003 fall of Baghdad when Iraqi looters raided the site, the newspaper quoted a group of unidentified soldiers as saying.

U.S. Army reservists and National Guardsmen witnessed the looting and some soldiers sent messages to commanders in Baghdad requesting help, but received no reply, they said.

"It was complete chaos. It was looting like L.A. during the Rodney King riots," one officer said.

The eyewitness accounts reported by the Times are the first provided by U.S. soldiers and bolster claims that the U.S. military had failed to safeguard the powerful explosives, the newspaper said.

Iraqi officials told the United Nations International Atomic Energy Agency last month that about 380 tons of high-grade explosives, a type powerful enough to detonate a nuclear weapon, had been taken from the Al-Qaqaa facility.

Soldiers who belong to two different units described how Iraqis snatched explosives from unsecured bunkers and drove off with them in pickup trucks.

The soldiers who spoke to the Times asked to remain unidentified, saying they feared retaliation from the Pentagon.

The soldiers said they could not confirm that looters took the particularly powerful explosives known as HMX and RDX. One soldier, however, said U.S. forces saw looters load trucks with bags marked "hexamine," which is a key ingredient for HMX.

One senior noncommissioned officer said troops "were running from one side of the compound to the other side, trying to kick people out" and that at least 100 vehicles were at the site waiting for the military to leave so that they could loot the munitions.

The Pentagon has offered accounts that suggest the explosives were removed before the U.S.-led invasion to oust Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein and not during the chaos following the fall of Baghdad.

A Pentagon statement last week said the removal of the explosives would have required dozens of heavy trucks moving along the same roads as U.S. combat divisions.

The missing explosives became a campaign issue with Sen. John Kerry claiming it was further evidence of the Bush administration's poor handling of the war.

Four soldiers who are members of the Germany-based 317th Support Center and the 258th Rear Area Operations Center, an Arizona-based Army National Guard unit, said the looting happened over several weeks in late April and early May 2003.

Asked about the soldiers' accounts, Pentagon spokeswoman Rose-Ann Lynch told the newspaper: "We take the report of missing munitions very seriously. And we are looking into the facts and circumstances of this incident."
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What? Stuff about this coming out just a few days after the election? I'd be surprised, but I can't quite muster it. Oy.
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a couple dozen reservists vs hundreds of armed looters and at least 100 trucks. What the hell were they supposed to do, make a suicidal stand to guard the complex?
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Col. Crackpot wrote:a couple dozen reservists vs hundreds of armed looters and at least 100 trucks. What the hell were they supposed to do, make a suicidal stand to guard the complex?
The reservists? Jack and shit, unless calling for help was a possibility.

But you know, it's not like hundreds of trucks and guys are impossible to notice. Unless you're convinced it's 'just a little looting'.
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Have enough troops to guard the facility.

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Col. Crackpot wrote:a couple dozen reservists vs hundreds of armed looters and at least 100 trucks. What the hell were they supposed to do, make a suicidal stand to guard the complex?
Nothing, of course. No one is blaming the troops (except of course, Giuliani). But why were only a dozen reservists stationed to guard a munitions site?
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SirNitram wrote:The reservists? Jack and shit, unless calling for help was a possibility.
According to the article, some soldiers did call for aid:
The Article wrote:U.S. Army reservists and National Guardsmen witnessed the looting and some soldiers sent messages to commanders in Baghdad requesting help, but received no reply, they said.
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SirNitram wrote:The reservists? Jack and shit, unless calling for help was a possibility.
According to the article, some soldiers did call for aid:
The Article wrote:U.S. Army reservists and National Guardsmen witnessed the looting and some soldiers sent messages to commanders in Baghdad requesting help, but received no reply, they said.
See, the more you learn about this situation, the more pathetic it sounds.
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Someone fucked up and it wasn't the reservist. Those calls should of at least gotten a reply. Someone fucked up and he's wearing officer tabs, where was the react force? You should always have a reinforcing postion nearby and a react team to handle this shit.
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Oh my ever-fucking Mary Magdalene... This is an OUTRAGE! They fucking KNEW this for a year, and the only annouce it NOW? Gee, I wonder WHY? :roll:
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Why wasn't this released BEFORE the election? :evil:

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fgalkin wrote:Why wasn't this released BEFORE the election? :evil:

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Because it would have looked EXTREMELY bad for Bush had his military's incompetence been shown to practically want to extend violence in Iraq. This is practically a blind eye.
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fgalkin wrote:Why wasn't this released BEFORE the election? :evil:
Because Bushie wanted to make it seem as though terrorists had taken it, instead of looters. Because, you know, it just reinforces the lie that Iraq is in league with Osama.
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i talked to someone and he said this was released on fox news a week ago already? Was this so>?
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Boyish-Tigerlilly wrote:i talked to someone and he said this was released on fox news a week ago already? Was this so>?
CBS had been planning on revealing this the Sunday before the election on 60 minutes. Fox News beat them to the punch a week early.
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I saw this in the boston Globe a week ago....
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