Footage of the trailer has leaked- [SPOILER] thoughts?

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-11-04 04:09pm

Stravo wrote:Why engage so damned close though?

Looks fantastic and now the dreadnought is well and truly canon.

With any luck, that being corucscant, there'll be millions of ships there, and they'll be jammed in real tight.

More likely, this is the boarding action I've heard talked about.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-11-04 04:10pm

The boarding action was with a Trade Federation "Donut" Ship.

And the Separatist fleet was on their way up when the Republic fleet came crashing down on them.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-11-04 04:10pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Dreadnought? That's not a Dreadnought.

It looks like one. It has the republic seal on it. Even if it's called something else, that just means the Empire renames them "Dreadnought."

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-11-04 04:13pm

The ship you think is a Dreadnought is wearing the Separatist-symbol. I don´t think it is a Dreadnought.

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2004-11-04 04:15pm

Stravo wrote:Why engage so damned close though?

Looks fantastic and now the dreadnought is well and truly canon.

Probably to capture that "Master and Commander" feel.

Various points:

1.) Venators appear to have between 3-4 twin-barreled "heavy turrets" per side. In some images it appears to be 3, but others seem to show four.

2.) In addition to the twin turrets.. the trenches also appear to be designed to mount guns. Note that visbile blue "flashes" that appear from the visible dorasal turrets appear in the trenches, although those seem to be single mounts. I'd estimate anouther half dozen to a dozen there.

3.) VEnators are firing blue bolts, not green. What the fuck? Also, isnt it a bad idea to be firing beam weapons in an atmosphere?

4.) Those turrets seem to have a pretty high rate of fire - the dorasal turrets fire 2 twin bursts within 6-8 frames... The "trench' guns I estimate fire 3 shots in 12 frames

5.) That bloody new Jedi STarfighter is fucking tiny. I estimate based on the head in the cockpit its no more than 5-6 meters in width, and most of that is just thin wings! That other fighter.. the Clone trooper one I think.. is a bit larger.. but its still far smaller than an X-wing.

6.) I think that in some shots the capital ships are missing at less than a hundred meters distance. :/

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-11-04 04:15pm

Yeah, VT is right. That's the Neker-cubish emblem of the Confederacy on the bottom ship.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-11-04 04:17pm

The top one (the one to the left) looks like the dreadnought.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-11-04 04:18pm

That's a Venator-class Destroyer.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-11-04 04:19pm

Gets renamed a dreadnought, or is an exceptionally similar vessel. Have you seen a Dreadnought pic lately?

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-11-04 04:22pm

Venators are firing blue bolts, not green. What the fuck? Also, isnt it a bad idea to be firing beam weapons in an atmosphere?

They´re on the edge of space there. And what´s wrong with blue bolts?

And I still don´t like the twin-command tower structure. Just irks me. :S

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-11-04 04:24pm

Have you seen a Dreadnought pic lately?

I believe all the ships on the Separatist side were brand new designs.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-11-04 04:25pm

NecronLord wrote:Gets renamed a dreadnought, or is an exceptionally similar vessel. Have you seen a Dreadnought pic lately?

Yes, and the Venators look nothing like a Dreadnought. I don't know how you could say that the top ship looks anything like a Dreadnought, when it's obviously nothing except a Venator.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-11-04 04:25pm

Sure, there's differences, but with such a similar hull-form, they're almost as close as the ISD and the ISDII.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2004-11-04 04:28pm

Most specifically it's missing the bizzaro bumps on its sides. Could easily be a variation, though.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-11-04 04:29pm

Hmm, now that I think about it, that ship in the trailer looks abit like General Grievous´ ship, The Invisible Hand. But I thought it would be bigger... Hmm...

EDIT: Definetly looks like the front of the ship, not the entire hull.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-11-04 04:31pm

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:Most specifically it's missing the bizzaro bumps on its sides. Could easily be a variation, though.

I'd say they're weapons pods, part of an upgrade program.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-11-04 04:32pm

I like this. Dreadnoughts, Juggernauts -- suck it down, Purists!

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-11-04 04:33pm

Dreadnoughts

I´m not sold on that idea.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-11-04 04:34pm

GOD DAMN IT, DON'T SAY "the ship on the top left" WHEN YOU FUCKING MEAN THE FAGGOT SHIP ON THE FUCKING BOTTOM RIGHT!!

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-11-04 04:37pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:GOD DAMN IT, DON'T SAY "the ship on the top left" WHEN YOU FUCKING MEAN THE FAGGOT SHIP ON THE FUCKING BOTTOM RIGHT!!

Right. My mistake, the one I talk about is on the right. But it's above the other ship, you can see part of the Venator's wing obscured by it. Similarly, if it were significantly below, the Venator's shadow would fall on it.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-11-04 04:40pm

Sorry, I'm used to relating to things within the frame by their two-dimensional position within the frame, not three-dimensional orientation within the space. Standard academic methods.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-11-04 04:42pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Sorry, I'm used to relating to things within the frame by their two-dimensional position within the frame, not three-dimensional orientation within the space. Standard academic methods.

Pah! This is Stardestroyer.Net! Home of overanalysis. Of course I was talking about the position in orbit!

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-11-04 04:55pm

Oh, and the Venator definately has four heavy turrets per side.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-11-04 05:22pm

JME2 wrote:I like this. Dreadnoughts, Juggernauts -- suck it down, Purists!

Indeed. *Heads off to Descent of the Jedi to enjoy yet another victory.*

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-11-04 07:17pm

NecronLord wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Dreadnought? That's not a Dreadnought.
It looks like one. It has the republic seal on it. Even if it's called something else, that just means the Empire renames them "Dreadnought."

No, it does not look like one, and its far smaller relative to the Venator. And Pablo confirmed they were not in ROTS.