Footage of the trailer has leaked- [SPOILER] thoughts?

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-11-05 02:53am

Praxis wrote:
But was I the only one who noticed the Fireman ship spraying 'water' (or any sort of fire-retardant liquid) on the burning capship?

The Invisible Hand is piloted to a safe landing on Coruscant by Anakin once Dooku is killed, as they have no way of getting off of it (guess all the escape pods were gone- there'd be hardly any, considering the crews are mostly droids) and they still need to rescue Palpatine. Having the fire brigade show up and put it out doesn't "hurt" the film at all.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-11-05 03:55am

Apparantly, you´re not supposed to put out a fire in the SW universe. "It just isn´t SW!!!!111!2"

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-11-05 03:56am

Illuminatus Primus wrote: No, it does not look like one, and its far smaller relative to the Venator.

On closer reflection, perhaps not, but it does seem about as similar to the Dreadnought as the KDY wedges are to each other.

I don't know how big a Venator is, so that doesn't really help.

And Pablo confirmed they were not in ROTS.

As far as I care, that guy can bend over stick his head through his anus, and waddle off into the sunset, both of the holes through which he spews his shit stoppered at last.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-11-05 04:03am

I guess the best we can hope for is a cameo or something (since EU-ships appeared in AOTC and ANH).

But, who knows, the design of this ship and the Dreadnought might be from the same people?

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-11-05 04:12am

VT-16 wrote: But, who knows, the design of this ship and the Dreadnought might be from the same people?

Yes. Though supposedly the Dread is very old, it's a reliable design, and the Invisible Hand might be based on it, or from the same yards.

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba · Post by **Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba** » 2004-11-05 08:01am

That trailer was better than sex... Maybe.

The fire-retardant makes sense, as burning could, say, ignite Tibanna Gas reservoirs, ending their trip real soon, so keeping large fire-retardant-spraying drone-ships(maybe) is a sensible military thing to do.

Also, notice the centaur-like bug things. They don't look like Droids to me(too organic), or another humnanoid riding bugs, so these Bug-centaurs are interesting.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-11-05 08:04am

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba wrote:Also, notice the centaur-like bug things. They don't look like Droids to me(too organic), or another humnanoid riding bugs, so these Bug-centaurs are interesting.

I saw that, looks like there's people riding them. Like Geonosians or something.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2004-11-05 09:19am

I wonder what those giant fleas are.

Though, it seems we're getting more spoilers from people's comments (maybe) than the trailer itself. ; )

VT-16 wrote:I guess the best we can hope for is a cameo or something (since EU-ships appeared in AOTC and ANH).

But, who knows, the design of this ship and the Dreadnought might be from the same people?

Pardon my ignorance, but other than the YT-2400 light freighter, what "EU ships" have we seen in the movies so far?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-11-05 09:46am

Action VI freighters in AotC.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-11-05 09:53am

NecronLord wrote:
Yes. Though supposedly the Dread is very old, it's a reliable design, and the Invisible Hand might be based on it, or from the same yards.

Before the helmet shows the Invisible Hand from Anakin's targeting scope (i.e. an exact replica of that on the TIE/X1 in ANH)- it doesn't really look anything like a Dreadnought.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2004-11-05 10:14am

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba wrote:That trailer was better than sex... Maybe.

I got me all hot and bothered.

Just ask Nitram.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that James Earl Jones' voice answering "Yes, my Lord" when told to rise?

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2004-11-05 11:43am

LadyTevar wrote:Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that James Earl Jones' voice answering "Yes, my Lord" when told to rise?

imdb lists him as the voice credit for Vader. So it likely is.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2004-11-05 12:11pm

That weird alien seen in the trailer, could that be Gen Grevous be member of "race"?

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-11-05 12:49pm

I don´t think so, Grievous´eyes are reptillian and yellow, Tion Meddon´s eyes are dark, as seen in the trailer.

The "lava-droids" are called "scurrier droids" according to insiders, and their riders are "scurrier riders". They pick up Anakin from the lava and bring him to Sidious.

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2004-11-05 02:36pm

Without clear shots of the bow and stern you can't be 100% sure, but I for one think the CIS ship looks a lot like a variant of the "bulk cruiser". Much more so than a dreadnaught.

The trailer was okay, but I expected a lot more what with everyone going so apeshit. Kind of anticlimactic. Thanks to everyone (VT, DGG, Laird) who did there best to get it to me though.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-11-05 02:57pm

I was a bit dissapointed with it to begin with, and still haven´t had that "HOLY FUCK"-reaction, but I think it´s very good. Even like the sudden end to the Imperial March at the end there, as if everything´s closing down now that we´re at the end. And all the redness of the trailer, title included.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2004-11-05 03:22pm

The space battles look promising.

Meest · Post by **Meest** » 2004-11-05 04:07pm

About the Vader hands shot, gotta remember that even straight up that table thing still seems angled back somewhat, and his hands seem even bound behind up abit adding to some perspective distortion on his hands. We've seen the stills of that table and his hands weren't that drastically small from the side angle.

Spoiler warning if necessary..................

Few questions that make me wonder what suprise if any Lucas has planned, maybe it's not revealing Grievous in trailers so soon. Regards to spoilers, the Yoda/Sidious encounter, that shot of Sidious is from a downwards angle so could be from the fight, but can anyone identify the background? It also looks like a coup de grace maybe since Mace is supposed to confront him too. The backgrounds don't match but Mace fights someone with a red sabre, and Anakin is shown with a blue one up until the duel at least.

Unless Mace is doing a behind parry, he does spin around, could it be the another attack from behind, I've heard he doesn't go out like a punk in the sense he takes on Anakin and Sidious but at that point does Anakin have a red sabre? Also earlier in the trailer it shows Mace on a balcony/veranda, not sure if it's been leaked he has more than one fight? Or just continues inside or out since it looks like its the Palp's office or appartment.

Someone else mentioned the Imperial guard on the ground near Yoda, so guessing this is on Corusant. Can anyone ID the background, is it the temple or something else? Not sure why Sidious would be at the temple if that's where it is, sounds more like grunt work for Anakin to wipe the kids. Mace is supposed to confront Imperial guards according to rumour with Kit and others, so maybe Sidious is chopping Kit and Yoda comes after all that, but that would be tons of action back to back. And would mean more than one fight for Sidious and Yoda, just seems too much or this is going to be the craziest action Star Wars film ever

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-11-05 04:13pm

Meest wrote:And would mean more than one fight for Sidious and Yoda, just seems too much or this is going to be the craziest action Star Wars film ever

Makes sense considering that Lucas has stated that ROTS will have the most lightsaber fights of all 6 films.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-11-05 04:20pm

JME2 wrote:
Meest wrote:And would mean more than one fight for Sidious and Yoda, just seems too much or this is going to be the craziest action Star Wars film ever
Makes sense considering that Lucas has stated that ROTS will have the most lightsaber fights of all 6 films.

Which also makes sense, as it's the only one that has the Jedi Order and the revealed Sith Order at the same time. I'd be highly disappointed if there weren't more lightsaber fights in there then there were in the other films where either the Sith were hiding or the Jedi were dead.

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2004-11-05 07:31pm

VT-16 wrote:I was a bit dissapointed with it to begin with, and still haven´t had that "HOLY FUCK"-reaction, but I think it´s very good. Even like the sudden end to the Imperial March at the end there, as if everything´s closing down now that we´re at the end. And all the redness of the trailer, title included.

Well I don't know about you, but I had a "HOLY SHIT"-reaction when Vader answered Palpatine, "Yes, Master."

That...fucking...ROCK! It sent a chill through my spine and that's a very good indicator for me.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2004-11-05 07:36pm

For me it was when i saw Anakins "evil eyes".

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-11-05 10:48pm

Unless Mace is doing a behind parry, he does spin around, could it be the another attack from behind, I've heard he doesn't go out like a punk in the sense he takes on Anakin and Sidious but at that point does Anakin have a red sabre? Also earlier in the trailer it shows Mace on a balcony/veranda, not sure if it's been leaked he has more than one fight? Or just continues inside or out since it looks like its the Palp's office or appartment.

I think there's going to be some complication regarding Anakin's lightsabre's in this film. Perhaps, and this is just a guess bordering close to fanboy-inanity that I traditionally hate, he makes a red lightsabre for himself (i.e. his Vader sabre) but carries around his blue to keep up the pretense for Obi-Wan and the Jedi- as well as Padme too.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-11-05 11:02pm

VT-16 wrote:Nothing so far suggests this is optimal range of firing. The separatists just got unlucky and were caught trying to escape the planet.

And that explains how they would've plausibly gotten to such ranges before slaughtering each other how?

VT-16 wrote:Hey, if the TIE fighters did it, the elite Jedi TIEs should be able to fit even more stuff in on a small frame (for a bigger price-tag of course).

No, the TIEs don't even have life support or shields or hyperdrive.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-11-05 11:10pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:And that explains how they would've plausibly gotten to such ranges before slaughtering each other how?

We know that the movie begins as the battle has already started. If this is indeed the case, then there's no reason to believe that they didn't engage each other from longer range, and have the remained of the fleet that survived the initial stages close to point blank as the Seperatist fleet tried to escape.