Man commits suicide at Ground Zero over Bush re-election
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Man commits suicide at Ground Zero over Bush re-election
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NEW YORK - A 25-year-old man from Georgia who was apparently distraught over President Bush (news - web sites)'s re-election shot and killed himself at ground zero. Andrew Veal's body was found Saturday morning inside the off-limits site, said Steve Coleman, a spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. A shotgun was found nearby, but no suicide note was found, Coleman said.
Veal's mother said her son was upset about the result of the presidential election and had driven to New York, Gus Danese, president of the Port Authority Police Benevolent Association, told The New York Times in Sunday's editions.
Friends said Veal worked in a computer lab at the University of Georgia and was planning to marry.
"I'm absolutely sure it's a protest," Mary Anne Mauney, Veal's supervisor at the lab, told The Daily News. "I don't know what made him commit suicide, but where he did it was symbolic."
Police were investigating how Veal entered the former World Trade Center site, which is protected by high fences and owned by the Port Authority.
NEW YORK - A 25-year-old man from Georgia who was apparently distraught over President Bush (news - web sites)'s re-election shot and killed himself at ground zero. Andrew Veal's body was found Saturday morning inside the off-limits site, said Steve Coleman, a spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. A shotgun was found nearby, but no suicide note was found, Coleman said.
Veal's mother said her son was upset about the result of the presidential election and had driven to New York, Gus Danese, president of the Port Authority Police Benevolent Association, told The New York Times in Sunday's editions.
Friends said Veal worked in a computer lab at the University of Georgia and was planning to marry.
"I'm absolutely sure it's a protest," Mary Anne Mauney, Veal's supervisor at the lab, told The Daily News. "I don't know what made him commit suicide, but where he did it was symbolic."
Police were investigating how Veal entered the former World Trade Center site, which is protected by high fences and owned by the Port Authority.
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Protest: Cool
Shooting oneself in protest: stupid
Abandoning fiance: Really stupid, dude she'll be after you into the afterlife now.
Shooting oneself in protest: stupid
Abandoning fiance: Really stupid, dude she'll be after you into the afterlife now.
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I'd understand if it was some social recluse who spent all his time on politics or on the computer, but if he was in a steady enough relationship that he was going to get married, he was an indescribably idiotic and selfish fuckwit who deserves no sympathy whatsoever. It takes a special kind of asshole to do something like this to one's loved ones for such a fucking trivial (all things considered) reason.
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I don't think he was an idiot. I think he was a very troubled person who was going to kill himself anyway, and figured, since the election put him over the edge, he'd try and do something meaningful with his death.
I'm not saying I agree with him (because I don't), and I'm not saying it wasn't selfish (because it was), but I think it's more that he was severely depressed and didn't receive any help for his depression, not that he thought it'd be a good idea to protest Bush by blowing his brains out. I've known too many intelligent, suicidally depressed people to just label them idiots and move on without feeling at least a twinge of sympathy.
I'm not saying I agree with him (because I don't), and I'm not saying it wasn't selfish (because it was), but I think it's more that he was severely depressed and didn't receive any help for his depression, not that he thought it'd be a good idea to protest Bush by blowing his brains out. I've known too many intelligent, suicidally depressed people to just label them idiots and move on without feeling at least a twinge of sympathy.
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Or socialized healthcare.Wicked Pilot wrote:Death before higher taxes I guess.Durandal wrote:Hey, it was either suicide or move to Canada.
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Or legal female toplessness in publicDurandal wrote:Or socialized healthcare.Wicked Pilot wrote:Death before higher taxes I guess.Durandal wrote:Hey, it was either suicide or move to Canada.
But seriously, he must have been really fucked in the head to go kill himself. No matter what Bush does over the next four years, it can't possibly hurt the guy worse than what he just did to himself.
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"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
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Maybe he was on the secret watch list, and knew that he was about to be disappeared, tortured, and killed by the evil guys in black cars with dark tinted windows. Of course if you believe that you should probably put up a few more sheets of lead on your walls to block the evil spy rays.Darth Wong wrote:But seriously, he must have been really fucked in the head to go kill himself. No matter what Bush does over the next four years, it can't possibly hurt the guy worse than what he just did to himself.
aerius: I'll vote for you if you sleep with me.
Lusankya: Deal!
Say, do you want it to be a threesome with your wife? Or a foursome with your wife and sister-in-law? I'm up for either.
Lusankya: Deal!
Say, do you want it to be a threesome with your wife? Or a foursome with your wife and sister-in-law? I'm up for either.
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Pointless side note this is in fact legal in the District.Darth Wong wrote: Or legal female toplessness in public
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Thining of the herd. I feel sorry for his loved ones.
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Do you really object to the idea?darthdavid wrote:What is it with fuckwads killing themselves today?
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