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Larz wrote:
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NecronLord wrote:I voulunteer for... anything really
Ditto that.
I make three on the voulunteer roster. Gotta go to spanish now but wondering if verilon or necronlord have any knowledge expertise... will post mine at a later time.
Just that I'm a former ROman Catholic. ;)
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Damn Catholics

I'd like to contribute, but I ain't gonna go to that site at school, and I've been banned from my home. I'll see if I can set up a new account, I'll let you guys know later.
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Not to put too fine a point on it, but whichever of you decides to actually take on these goofballs (and I would suggest someone ask Wong nicely if he would do it, since he knows the contents of these kinds of debates better than most of us), don't be afraid to privately ask us for help if you find yourself in need of information to address specific points you are unfamiliar with. For example, I can answer a lot of questions about general biology, microbiology, immunology and virology, as well as middle-eastern ancient history and mythology.
Note: I'm semi-retired from the board, so if you need something, please be patient.
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Ted wrote:Damn Catholics
:evil: Bite me, it's not like it was my choice at the time! :evil:
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All i'm saying is more than sufficient to deal with those fickwits in every area of relevance, bar bible study.
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verilon wrote:
Ted wrote:Damn Catholics
:evil: Bite me, it's not like it was my choice at the time! :evil:
I'm definately NOT going to bite you.
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Ted wrote:
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Ted wrote:Damn Catholics
:evil: Bite me, it's not like it was my choice at the time! :evil:
I'm definately NOT going to bite you.
Okay, fine. Fair enough. But I think a former Christian/Catholic would be useful in this debate.
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verilon wrote:
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verilon wrote: :evil: Bite me, it's not like it was my choice at the time! :evil:
I'm definately NOT going to bite you.
Okay, fine. Fair enough. But I think a former Christian/Catholic would be useful in this debate.
True, but a pagan might not be that credible in terms of views on catholic idea's, some ideas of catholocism might be distorted due to paganism.
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Ted wrote:
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Ted wrote: I'm definately NOT going to bite you.
Okay, fine. Fair enough. But I think a former Christian/Catholic would be useful in this debate.
True, but a pagan might not be that credible in terms of views on catholic idea's, some ideas of catholocism might be distorted due to paganism.
18 years of Catholicism, a few months of paganism. :) The ideas are not distorted....I have enough family hounding me about becoming a priest as it is.
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Coyote wrote:If we're going to use a panel of five judges, I think that Neeolong, Vympel, The Dark, and myself (Coyote) would be a good start, unless anyone objects/has better ideas. Any other ideas for the fifth, if this is the protocol we're going to use? Maybe Yogi, if you're not in the trenches?
I'm willing. Thanks for the vote of confidence. Might I also suggest Cyril or another Christian from this board, gives them less of an argument that we are all God-hating Atheists.
I'm a Pre-Min (Pre-Ministerial Candidate). Might be a rather liberal denomination, but I'm no God-hating Atheist :D . I do think someone older and with more knowledge than me would be a good idea, though, since I'm just now taking a basic Christian beliefs course (and wanting to denounce some of the heretics on CW, but I'd get banned in half a heartbeat if I did that). Also, depending on when this debate is, I might be out of town. Winter holidays are four weeks this year, which is good (long breaks are always good) and bad (I'll probably be away from the board for most of that time).
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neoolong wrote:
Coyote wrote:If we're going to use a panel of five judges, I think that Neeolong, Vympel, The Dark, and myself (Coyote) would be a good start, unless anyone objects/has better ideas. Any other ideas for the fifth, if this is the protocol we're going to use? Maybe Yogi, if you're not in the trenches?
I'm willing. Thanks for the vote of confidence. Might I also suggest Cyril or another Christian from this board, gives them less of an argument that we are all God-hating Atheists.
Again, former Catholic. I think that I could help some.
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Verilon, you'd be great on the Judge's Panel. You've debated these guys before and have the background. If The Dark won't be able to join us (since his schedule looks iffy) then as soon as we have a fifth, we're golden.

NecronLord, interested? You saw what the plan was; to grade on a scale of 1-10 (1 is worst, 10 is best) on Evidence; Convincing; Topicality; and Civility (as if they've earned that, but we have higher standards).

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Umm d00dz, there is going to be no debate. Look at http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=5227. They want us dead and they want our webspace! LET'S GET EM BOYS!!!
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The fuckwit banned my entire university.
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If anyone wants to debate, and is IP banned, I will be happy to post as their proxy. E-mail me your arguments and I will post them.
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This is where you all come from!

I am a resident at CW. Atheist and evolutionary. Filled with evilutionist dogma, apparently. I have been posting there for years now.

CW is actually a good place to debate. I have consistently called creationists there ignorant and liers without any problem from the mods because I have highlighted the actual points clearly.

Don't just assume that because they are creationists they will get rid of alternatives. Put forward a good argument and people there will debate you.

Having said that, any help you want, just ask.
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This is where you all come from!

I am a resident at CW. Atheist and evolutionary. Filled with evilutionist dogma, apparently. I have been posting there for years now.
How the fuck did you manage?
CW is actually a good place to debate. I have consistently called creationists there ignorant and liers without any problem from the mods because I have highlighted the actual points clearly.
And yet, the minute we challenge them to a formal debate and call them idiots on our board, several members get banned.
Don't just assume that because they are creationists they will get rid of alternatives. Put forward a good argument and people there will debate you.
We don't. We conclude that they will dismiss the alternatives because they have banned several members of this board for nothing more than harsh language and sexual orientation, not to mention trying to get this board shut down. SBollinger is completely unreasonable, saying that the debate winner should be determined by mods, that mods should have editing authority for debate posts, and a slew of other ridiculous debate rules.
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Phil wrote:This is where you all come from!
Are you also the fellow who pops up at defendingthefaith.org and a few other places? If so, you do good work.
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Wow! I'm famous. Yep, thats me. The trouble with Defending the Faith is that the posts disappear after a while. I am still waiting for SntJohnny to reply.

Thanks! Its good to know my stuff gets noticed by somebody.
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And yet, the minute we challenge them to a formal debate and call them idiots on our board, several members get banned.
This is something that I have been reading about here. I am still fact gathering. It seems that SBollinger (a quite recent Mod) is beginning to take a harder line than before.
We don't. We conclude that they will dismiss the alternatives because they have banned several members of this board for nothing more than harsh language and sexual orientation, not to mention trying to get this board shut down.
Fair point.
SBollinger is completely unreasonable, saying that the debate winner should be determined by mods, that mods should have editing authority for debate posts, and a slew of other ridiculous debate rules.
Another fair point.

I must change my tactic. I come to these boards to argue, not to agree.

I tell you what, you are all wrong, and I am right because I believe I am. Hows that?
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Phil wrote:I must change my tactic. I come to these boards to argue, not to agree.

I tell you what, you are all wrong, and I am right because I believe I am. Hows that?
You forgot to add "I pity you for not knowing the Truth in Christ" or some other such fundie bullshit at the end, for the full effect :)
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This is from the CW board about the bannings:
First Person Banned:
Creationist (racism)
Second:
Creationist (sock puppeting)
Third, fourth, fofth etc:
Creationist (sock puppeting)
The person who posted this is an evolutionist mod on the board. Comments?
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Phil wrote:This is from the CW board about the bannings:
First Person Banned:
Creationist (racism)
Second:
Creationist (sock puppeting)
Third, fourth, fofth etc:
Creationist (sock puppeting)
The person who posted this is an evolutionist mod on the board. Comments?
What's your point? It doesn't matter why those people were banned and if they deserved it. It does matter that some new people were banned and that they didn't deserve it.
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NL's ban SHOULD be lifted...
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