Software flaws detected in Ohio voting machines

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-11-07 01:24am

I came home Monday morning to see the Infamous Free Speach TV doing an exposee on how easy it was to hack one of their voting machines....

taking that with a grain of salt....

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-11-07 01:50am

Master of Ossus wrote:
SirNitram wrote:So, I must again confront the point: At what point does suspecting foul play turn from tin foil hattery and wishful thinking turn into simple acknowledgement of a pattern of abuse?
When you can actually show that the problems with voting and tallying actually changed the outcome of an election.

So it's only voter fraud if it works?

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-11-07 01:55am

Durandal wrote:So it's only voter fraud if it works?

I guess it would be voter fraud as soon as intent is shown, but seriously unless something comes of it then it's not that big of a deal--it's something to correct for next time, but not an immediate concern.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2004-11-09 04:28am

Master of Ossus wrote:
Durandal wrote:So it's only voter fraud if it works?
I guess it would be voter fraud as soon as intent is shown, but seriously unless something comes of it then it's not that big of a deal--it's something to correct for next time, but not an immediate concern.

Isnt this the company that caused all that fuss with the leaked memos?

Post by **Edi** » 2004-11-09 05:26am

Yes, it is, Keevan. I don't know how the Republidrones here can deny that the company's software and practices need an independent, objective audit and the results need to be made public, preferably a big splash. All I see are excuses, and the only reason I can think of is that they don't mind because the outcome favors them. If it favored the DNC, on the other hand, we'd hear no end of bitching and whining from them.

Edi

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2004-11-09 12:17pm

Master of Ossus wrote:
Durandal wrote:So it's only voter fraud if it works?
I guess it would be voter fraud as soon as intent is shown, but seriously unless something comes of it then it's not that big of a deal--it's something to correct for next time, but not an immediate concern.

And that, kids, is why Master of Ossus should never be let near a software project in his life.

The fact is, Diebold machines have a DEMONSTRATED flaw in them that makes them unsuitable for counting votes. This DEMONSTRATED flaw, as far as can be told at this point, did not change the outcome of the recent election. However, there is nothing preventing it from changing the outcome of another election -- major, minor, or inconsequential.

That is why the machines should NOT BE USED until this critical flaw is fixed.